Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find

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jasonb

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Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« on: November 03, 2016, 08:27:01 AM »
Hello,
I am new to all of this. I am not sure what I believe ATM. I am not attacking with my questions, I merely want to understand the position and learn the truth.

So I have seen meteorites  fall to the earth. If we are in a dome, well were do they come from then? I know they are real please explane.

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Space Cowgirl

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 09:10:49 AM »
If we are under a dome,  it could be shiny bits of the dome breaking off.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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IonSpen

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 09:17:31 AM »
Then that's some very predictable breaking! My favorite meteor shower of the year is coming up Dec 13th/14th - the Geminids. They, and all meteors, fly across the sky at unimaginable speeds, much faster than falling.

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jasonb

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 09:18:25 AM »
If we are under a dome,  it could be shiny bits of the dome breaking off.

interesting.  Do we have photos of the dome? that would be so awesome.  I am very curious about iron from meteories. I love history and there is a lot of history about making weapons from iron from the sky, meteorite weapons.


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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 11:32:58 AM »
I've asked this same question here before. FET has zero plausible explanation. I'll keep an eye out on this to see if you have better luck.

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 02:05:52 PM »
If we are under a dome,  it could be shiny bits of the dome breaking off.

interesting.  Do we have photos of the dome? that would be so awesome.  I am very curious about iron from meteories. I love history and there is a lot of history about making weapons from iron from the sky, meteorite weapons.

Certainly, you've seen pictures of the sky?

(p.s. I was joking about bits of the dome breaking off)
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Slemon

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 06:02:31 PM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 07:05:31 PM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.
How would this explain the predictability?

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Slemon

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 05:38:20 AM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.
How would this explain the predictability?
You could see them coming.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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jasonb

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 05:38:49 AM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.

0.o Wait WHAT?

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Slemon

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 05:55:36 AM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.

0.o Wait WHAT?
Basically: there are rocks in the sky, sometimes they fall.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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IonSpen

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 06:00:17 AM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.

0.o Wait WHAT?
Basically: there are rocks in the sky, sometimes they fall.
Yeah, but I know it's gonna happen Dec 13th/14th. That doesn't answer the question. 

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Slemon

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016, 06:06:01 AM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.

0.o Wait WHAT?
Basically: there are rocks in the sky, sometimes they fall.
Yeah, but I know it's gonna happen Dec 13th/14th. That doesn't answer the question.

That's because I was answering a different post. I answered your post before that.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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IonSpen

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 06:58:21 AM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.
How would this explain the predictability?
You could see them coming.
That does not explain a meteor shower being predicted on a certain date, months or years in advance.

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sandokhan

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2016, 07:32:59 AM »
That does not explain a meteor shower being predicted on a certain date, months or years in advance.

The Perseid meteor shower provides one of the most striking and beautiful proofs that the Earth does not revolve around the Sun.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1775758#msg1775758

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1775914#msg1775914

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1776185#msg1776185


https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67723.0 (thread on Perseid meteor shower)

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Brouwer

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2016, 07:39:18 AM »
That does not explain a meteor shower being predicted on a certain date, months or years in advance.

The Perseid meteor shower provides one of the most striking and beautiful proofs that the Earth does not revolve around the Sun.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1775758#msg1775758

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1775914#msg1775914

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1776185#msg1776185


https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67723.0 (thread on Perseid meteor shower)
You seem to abuse the meaning of the word "paradox" in all cases.

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IonSpen

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2016, 08:24:17 AM »
Interesting opinions Sando, thank you.

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Slemon

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2016, 08:34:56 AM »
Crash course in the DE model of FET (just explaining a few relevant details, not the complete model by any means). The stars are solid objects, formed of dust and rock that exist above the Earth. They rotate and are kept up in flows that you can imagine are like the tops of domes, with the Earth being the flat side.
Some objects, that haven't yet formed stars (and so look dull), will be torn apart by the flow, or will dip too low, and end up falling to Earth.
How would this explain the predictability?
You could see them coming.
That does not explain a meteor shower being predicted on a certain date, months or years in advance.
Only if you imagine them falling straight down from nearby, which wouldn't be the case. The only way we predict meteors is by seeing them coming, no matter which model you adhere to.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2016, 07:27:56 PM »
That does not explain a meteor shower being predicted on a certain date, months or years in advance.
Only if you imagine them falling straight down from nearby, which wouldn't be the case. The only way we predict meteors is by seeing them coming, no matter which model you adhere to.
Individual meteors cannot be predicted, but Meteor Showers certainly can be, see EarthSky’s meteor shower guide for 2016.

Composite image of the 2015 Perseid shower at Mount Rainier National Park.
Matt Dieterich, who composed it, calls it ‘Skyfall.’
See that site for these meteor showers:
         Around the March equinox … fireball season
         April 21-22, 2016 Lyrids
         May 5-6, 2016 Eta Aquarids
         July 28-29, 2016 Delta Aquarids
         August 11-12, possible Perseid outburst in 2016
         October 7, 2016 Draconids
         October 20-21, 2016 Orionids
         November 4-5, 2016 South Taurids
         November 11-12, 2016 North Taurids
         November 16-17, 2016 Leonids
         December 13-14, 2016 Geminids

Explain those on FET, DET or whatever ?ET you chose.

Jane, you'd better stick to the Globe on this one, you seem to be backing a loser with DET!

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Re: Confused about shooting starts and meteorites that we find
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2016, 08:28:54 PM »
The only way we predict meteors is by seeing them coming, no matter which model you adhere to.

What is it that you can "see coming" tonight, that will allow you to predict the arrival of the Gemenid meteor shower five weeks from now?