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Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)

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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2016, 07:47:15 PM »
Quote from: IonSpen on October 31, 2016, 07:38:01 PM
What are the wind conditions? What is the temperature? What caliber round -  .338 Lapua or  .50BMG?

Irrelevant details.  The implication was that bullets hit their targets when the Coriolis effect is assumed.  The counter claim was that bullets can and do miss their targets, whether the Coriolis effect is assumed or not.  I am sorry that logic and reasoning are so confusing to you. 
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2016, 03:24:07 AM »
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
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Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 05:57:05 PM
No, height is a length.
How can you have length without distance?

In 3 dimensions.
Are you saying distance can't exist in three dimensions?

No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2016, 05:21:13 AM »
The dude was obviously trolling. I apologize you couldn't see my sarcasm jroa. Perhaps you could answer his questions, he has copy and pasted this nonsense elsewhere, so he must be in dire need of an answer.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2016, 07:24:01 AM »
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 03:24:07 AM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
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Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:09:37 PM
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Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 05:57:05 PM
No, height is a length.
How can you have length without distance?

In 3 dimensions.
Are you saying distance can't exist in three dimensions?

No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.

You are still assuming the wrong opposite.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2016, 07:30:12 AM »
Quote from: IonSpen on November 01, 2016, 05:21:13 AM
The dude was obviously trolling. I apologize you couldn't see my sarcasm jroa. Perhaps you could answer his questions, he has copy and pasted this nonsense elsewhere, so he must be in dire need of an answer.

He is an inch away from a short ban.  Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, I have not been taking anything in this thread as seriously as you seem to think I have.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2016, 08:59:17 AM »
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 07:24:01 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 03:24:07 AM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 05:57:05 PM
No, height is a length.
How can you have length without distance?

In 3 dimensions.
Are you saying distance can't exist in three dimensions?

No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.

You are still assuming the wrong opposite.
You're claiming the wrong opposite.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2016, 09:09:04 AM »
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 07:24:01 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 03:24:07 AM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 05:57:05 PM
No, height is a length.
How can you have length without distance?

In 3 dimensions.
Are you saying distance can't exist in three dimensions?

No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.

You are still assuming the wrong opposite.
You're claiming the wrong opposite.

If it is my claim, then it must be the correct opposite. 
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2016, 09:38:58 AM »
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:09:04 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 07:24:01 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 03:24:07 AM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:08:31 PM
In 3 dimensions.
Are you saying distance can't exist in three dimensions?

No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.

You are still assuming the wrong opposite.
You're claiming the wrong opposite.

If it is my claim, then it must be the correct opposite.
You switched opposites.
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Quote from: Crouton on December 02, 2022, 08:48:03 AM
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2016, 09:57:49 AM »
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:09:04 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 07:24:01 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 03:24:07 AM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:08:31 PM
In 3 dimensions.
Are you saying distance can't exist in three dimensions?

No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.

You are still assuming the wrong opposite.
You're claiming the wrong opposite.

If it is my claim, then it must be the correct opposite.
You switched opposites.

That would be the opposite of the opposite, and not only do opposites attract, but double negatives often mean the opposite of what the person is meaning, so, even if you think I meant the opposite, it is likely that you are simply incorrect. 
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2016, 10:36:15 AM »
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:09:04 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 07:24:01 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 03:24:07 AM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.

You are still assuming the wrong opposite.
You're claiming the wrong opposite.

If it is my claim, then it must be the correct opposite.
You switched opposites.

That would be the opposite of the opposite, and not only do opposites attract, but double negatives often mean the opposite of what the person is meaning, so, even if you think I meant the opposite, it is likely that you are simply incorrect.
But the opposite of the opposite means that the first opposite is no longer your claim, so you're now supporting the opposite of your original opposite, which is the opposite of what you should be saying.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2016, 10:43:17 AM »
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:09:04 AM
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
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Quote from: Jane on October 31, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 31, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
No, the opposite.
So, if distance can exist, how do you have a length without it?

No, you are assuming the wrong opposite.
You're the one saying distance doesn't exist for some unexplained reason.

You are still assuming the wrong opposite.
You're claiming the wrong opposite.

If it is my claim, then it must be the correct opposite.
You switched opposites.

That would be the opposite of the opposite, and not only do opposites attract, but double negatives often mean the opposite of what the person is meaning, so, even if you think I meant the opposite, it is likely that you are simply incorrect.
But the opposite of the opposite means that the first opposite is no longer your claim, so you're now supporting the opposite of your original opposite, which is the opposite of what you should be saying.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2016, 10:56:02 AM »
Quote from: Denspressure on November 01, 2016, 10:43:17 AM

I'm trying out the jroa debating style, it's quite handy.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2016, 11:07:53 AM »
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 10:56:02 AM
Quote from: Denspressure on November 01, 2016, 10:43:17 AM

I'm trying out the jroa debating style, it's quite handy.
Calling 'jroa style' a debating style is like calling decapitation a paper cut.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2016, 09:52:08 PM »
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
That would be the opposite of the opposite, and not only do opposites attract, but double negatives often mean the opposite of what the person is meaning, so, even if you think I meant the opposite, it is likely that you are simply incorrect.
Unless you happen to by speaking in Russian[1], then a double negative just reinforces the single negative so, I guess a a double double negative is four times as strong as a single negative.

[1] For all the sense you make most of the time, you might as well be speaking in Russian.

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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2016, 10:06:26 PM »
I may not always agree with his methods, but damnit he gets results.
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Quote from: Crouton on July 15, 2024, 05:37:14 AM
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2016, 10:20:26 PM »
I don't not like rab, but he's aint not the unsharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I mean.   ;)

Note: winky eye is so that rab might pick up on my poor excuse for humor, since he seems to not be capable of discerning humor from seriousness on his own.  One more to be on the safe side.   ;)
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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2016, 10:46:58 PM »
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
I don't not like rab, but he's aint not the unsharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I mean.   ;)

Note: winky eye is so that rab might pick up on my poor excuse for humor, since he seems to not be capable of discerning humor from seriousness on his own.  One more to be on the safe side.   ;)
There, there, you just kep thinking that and of course everybody just lurves jroa, but it's not a popularity contest,
I can lose one of those no trouble with my hands tied behind and not using all the "jroa gutter speak" you're so fond of.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2016, 08:15:56 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on November 01, 2016, 09:52:08 PM
Quote from: jroa on November 01, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
That would be the opposite of the opposite, and not only do opposites attract, but double negatives often mean the opposite of what the person is meaning, so, even if you think I meant the opposite, it is likely that you are simply incorrect.
Unless you happen to by speaking in Russian[1], then a double negative just reinforces the single negative so, I guess a a double double negative is four times as strong as a single negative.

[1] For all the sense you make most of the time, you might as well be speaking in Russian.

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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2016, 08:59:53 AM »
Quote from: Jane on November 01, 2016, 10:56:02 AM
Quote from: Denspressure on November 01, 2016, 10:43:17 AM

I'm trying out the jroa debating style, it's quite handy.
Are you claiming cheese doesn't exist?

There, easy isn't it.  A bot could do it better, as at least the bot wouldn't spend most of the time drunk.

Most of jroa's derails are just to cover up some howler he's made - like claiming height isn't a distance.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2016, 09:22:01 AM »
Maybe Jroa tried to refer to factoring in perspective, but i did just that in my example by giving the angular distance between polaris and the ground observed from the equator  on FE.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2016, 08:06:33 PM »
Quote from: IonSpen on November 02, 2016, 08:15:56 AM
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До свидания имейте хороший день.
Спасибо, я сделаю так.
Да, но jroa имеют хороший день?
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2016, 08:16:04 PM »
Quote from: rabinoz on November 02, 2016, 08:06:33 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on November 02, 2016, 08:15:56 AM
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До свидания имейте хороший день.
Спасибо, я сделаю так.
Да, но jroa имеют хороший день?

да у него есть то, что вы, ребята, говорите?

This is pretty funny.
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Quote from: Crouton on July 15, 2024, 05:37:14 AM
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2016, 08:23:03 PM »
Oui, que sera, sera, mon ami.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2016, 08:29:39 PM »
Je voudrais pouvoir parler la langue de l'amour, surtout pour les dames. Je pense qu'ils aimeraient ça.

Excusez mon traducteur google
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Quote from: Crouton on July 15, 2024, 05:37:14 AM
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2016, 08:31:38 PM »
Yes, I call it Franish.
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« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2016, 11:57:11 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on November 02, 2016, 08:16:04 PM
Quote from: rabinoz on November 02, 2016, 08:06:33 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on November 02, 2016, 08:15:56 AM
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До свидания имейте хороший день.
Спасибо, я сделаю так.
Да, но jroa имеют хороший день?

да у него есть то, что вы, ребята, говорите?

Воздержаться, капиталистические свиньи могли бы получить подозрительным.
Плохое качество шифрования не является безопасным против АНБ.
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Re: Is Flat earth "theory" good for a fantasy setting ? (examining star navigation)
« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2016, 12:21:59 AM »
для революции товарища

as long as were safe from NASA xD
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2016, 04:37:35 AM »
Quote from: disputeone on November 03, 2016, 12:21:59 AM
для революции товарища

as long as were safe from NASA xD
До свидания, у меня было лучше придерживаться к австралийскому говорят в будущем или Австралийская служба безопасности и разведки будет стучать в мою дверь.
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