Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #300 on: April 28, 2017, 08:05:26 AM »
He's onto us.



Shut it down.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #301 on: April 28, 2017, 09:00:01 AM »
Indeed.

Ah yes, the fool agrees with me.

All concept of gentlemanly debate seems to have been lost in this age.

I do find it funny that most of the shills here are "from Australia".

Since its already associated with being "down under" and therefore brings to mind a globe shape of earth.

But... Earth is flat. Like a big sandbox.

And the Jewish Sages agree.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #302 on: April 28, 2017, 11:28:52 AM »
I always wonder why globers treat history in such an ackward fashion.
If certain Jews believed our earth was flat, it accounts for an ancient Sage, but ''Eratosthenes'' is surely a historical figure and a cornerstone for ancient research+facts of the globe.
It is a reckless attempt to cherry pick between history and fantasy from the past to validate their ''globe''.
''Jesus Christ'' is under all sorts of scrunity tests lately and ''Eratosthenes'' is Exhibit A for historical ''spherical earth'' awareness.
Some globers really need to put off their coloured glasses.... :o

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #303 on: April 28, 2017, 12:50:37 PM »
Actually I was referring to the irony, which is totally lost on you. You have no idea

He's onto us.



Shut it down.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #304 on: April 28, 2017, 12:55:37 PM »
Actually I was referring to the irony, which is totally lost on you. You have no idea

He's onto us.



Shut it down.
My comments had no relation with your pictures, they were ''stand alone''....cheers !

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #305 on: April 28, 2017, 01:06:36 PM »
Actually I was referring to the irony, which is totally lost on you. You have no idea

Youre right, i have no idea what youre talking about.

You are alone on this matter, shifter the shill.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #306 on: April 28, 2017, 01:11:11 PM »
I always wonder why globers treat history in such an ackward fashion.
If certain Jews believed our earth was flat, it accounts for an ancient Sage, but ''Eratosthenes'' is surely a historical figure and a cornerstone for ancient research+facts of the globe.
It is a reckless attempt to cherry pick between history and fantasy from the past to validate their ''globe''.
''Jesus Christ'' is under all sorts of scrunity tests lately and ''Eratosthenes'' is Exhibit A for historical ''spherical earth'' awareness.
Some globers really need to put off their coloured glasses.... :o
Because the earth has since been proven to be a globe.    It's not cherry picking, it's just facts.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #307 on: April 28, 2017, 01:18:34 PM »
I always wonder why globers treat history in such an ackward fashion.
If certain Jews believed our earth was flat, it accounts for an ancient Sage, but ''Eratosthenes'' is surely a historical figure and a cornerstone for ancient research+facts of the globe.
It is a reckless attempt to cherry pick between history and fantasy from the past to validate their ''globe''.
''Jesus Christ'' is under all sorts of scrunity tests lately and ''Eratosthenes'' is Exhibit A for historical ''spherical earth'' awareness.
Some globers really need to put off their coloured glasses.... :o
Because the earth has since been proven to be a globe.    It's not cherry picking, it's just facts.

Ah yes.... Proven! Just look up Eratosthenes, right? And all of NASAs pretty pictures!! Oohh aahh!

But if you and I were face to face, man to man, on the street, with no computer, only the grass to one side, and the road to the other, and I asked you to prove that the Earth was a globe, you would not be able to.

Youde cry,
The fact that there is a hard edged horizon proves it is not flat.
Sunrise and set prove it is not flat.

And I would look at you like some kind of clown... Because thats what you are when you make ridiculous claims like that.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #308 on: April 28, 2017, 03:14:36 PM »
Because the earth has since been proven to be a globe.    It's not cherry picking, it's just facts.
If someone relies on the character of ''Eratosthenes'' and his ''scientific fieldwork'' to proof ancient believes in a globe then something is very wrong in how you determine the vadility of historic figures.
IOW i could easily claim about a certain mnemosyne who invented language after we stopped growling as wildmen.

It baffles me how little people actually care about history and how to determine ''facts'' about history.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #309 on: April 28, 2017, 06:25:49 PM »
I always wonder why globers treat history in such an ackward fashion.
If certain Jews believed our earth was flat, it accounts for an ancient Sage, but ''Eratosthenes'' is surely a historical figure and a cornerstone for ancient research+facts of the globe.
It is a reckless attempt to cherry pick between history and fantasy from the past to validate their ''globe''.
''Jesus Christ'' is under all sorts of scrunity tests lately and ''Eratosthenes'' is Exhibit A for historical ''spherical earth'' awareness.
Some globers really need to put off their coloured glasses.... :o
Because the earth has since been proven to be a globe.    It's not cherry picking, it's just facts.

Ah yes.... Proven! Just look up Eratosthenes, right? And all of NASAs pretty pictures!! Oohh aahh!

But if you and I were face to face, man to man, on the street, with no computer, only the grass to one side, and the road to the other, and I asked you to prove that the Earth was a globe, you would not be able to.

Youde cry,
The fact that there is a hard edged horizon proves it is not flat.
Sunrise and set prove it is not flat.

And I would look at you like some kind of clown... Because thats what you are when you make ridiculous claims like that.
Except that flat earth does not explain those things.  And we have modern technology to actually test this theory with.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #310 on: April 30, 2017, 06:57:12 AM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #311 on: April 30, 2017, 12:58:04 PM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

And what shap are you in ?" self proclaimed leader of some such thing"
You do realise that all you believe in is no more that some gasses produced from the rectal region of some bovine.
Jewish sages aside all of which you believe in related to theatre of the earth is based on the assumption of a giant global conspiracy......and that I'm afraid about sums it up.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #312 on: April 30, 2017, 04:04:24 PM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.
Well YOU explain the the evidence that I have given to YOU. Here are some!

A flat earth model that got all of these right might be a start!
  • A definitive map that distances and direction can be found from.

  • A model of the motion of the sun that gives correct sunrise and sunset, times and directions,
    shows the correct direction and elevation of the sun during the day,
    and as well as explaining the sunrise as we see it, the sun staying the same size all day and setting behind the horizon.

  • Has the correct shapes of all the countries, as have been determined by surveying, in many cases for centuries.

  • an explanation of moon phases and eclipses.

  • a model of the planets and stars that agrees with our observations - even with simple visual observations would be a start.
But, I am afraid that the list grows and grows because the Heliocentric Globe works!

There are numerous little things that crop up which simply make no sense on the Flat Earth.

Now Mr Arealhumanbeing, don't just say that the "evidence is there"! Tell us YOUR evidence!

Just look at the threads on "Which Flat Earth Map is Most Accurate", "direction of the sun at sun set", "Lunar eclipse" and "I live in the southern hemisphere. Can any FE explain my summer?"

And that is just threads running right noe in the Q&A!

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #313 on: April 30, 2017, 09:11:43 PM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

And what shap are you in ?" self proclaimed leader of some such thing"
You do realise that all you believe in is no more that some gasses produced from the rectal region of some bovine.
Jewish sages aside all of which you believe in related to theatre of the earth is based on the assumption of a giant global conspiracy......and that I'm afraid about sums it up.

What are you even saying...?

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #314 on: May 01, 2017, 10:05:03 AM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.
No, they are demonstrably wrong.  There would be no hard edge on the horizon.  The sun would change size and shape throughout the day.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #315 on: May 01, 2017, 02:26:18 PM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

And what shap are you in ?" self proclaimed leader of some such thing"
You do realise that all you believe in is no more that some gasses produced from the rectal region of some bovine.
Jewish sages aside all of which you believe in related to theatre of the earth is based on the assumption of a giant global conspiracy......and that I'm afraid about sums it up.

What are you even saying...?

I thought I'd join in with some incoherent flat earth speak......

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #316 on: May 02, 2017, 08:42:51 AM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

And what shap are you in ?" self proclaimed leader of some such thing"
You do realise that all you believe in is no more that some gasses produced from the rectal region of some bovine.
Jewish sages aside all of which you believe in related to theatre of the earth is based on the assumption of a giant global conspiracy......and that I'm afraid about sums it up.

What are you even saying...?

I thought I'd join in with some incoherent flat earth speak......

I am afraid you are on your own with that... Shillymcshillerstein.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #317 on: May 02, 2017, 10:24:33 AM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

And what shap are you in ?" self proclaimed leader of some such thing"
You do realise that all you believe in is no more that some gasses produced from the rectal region of some bovine.
Jewish sages aside all of which you believe in related to theatre of the earth is based on the assumption of a giant global conspiracy......and that I'm afraid about sums it up.

What are you even saying...?

I thought I'd join in with some incoherent flat earth speak......

I am afraid you are on your own with that... Shillymcshillerstein.

It was my lame attempt to have a go at "flat earth double no speak sense talk" and I have to admit I'm not very good at it. Your so much better by the way, a past master.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #318 on: May 02, 2017, 10:57:44 AM »
Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

And what shap are you in ?" self proclaimed leader of some such thing"
You do realise that all you believe in is no more that some gasses produced from the rectal region of some bovine.
Jewish sages aside all of which you believe in related to theatre of the earth is based on the assumption of a giant global conspiracy......and that I'm afraid about sums it up.

What are you even saying...?

I thought I'd join in with some incoherent flat earth speak......

I am afraid you are on your own with that... Shillymcshillerstein.

It was my lame attempt to have a go at "flat earth double no speak sense talk" and I have to admit I'm not very good at it. Your so much better by the way, a past master.

I honestly cant believe you posted that.

Are you referring the the Jewish flat Earthers?

Are the words of their sages "flat earth double no speak sense talk"?

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #319 on: May 02, 2017, 11:05:10 AM »
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Actually there are explanations for those things, ide appreciate it if you stopped lying by saying none exist.

Just because you have a biased opinion and think any explanation for the horizon and sun movement must be wrong because you cannot accept Earth being any other shap than what NASA tells you is not an excuse to lie.

And what shap are you in ?" self proclaimed leader of some such thing"
You do realise that all you believe in is no more that some gasses produced from the rectal region of some bovine.
Jewish sages aside all of which you believe in related to theatre of the earth is based on the assumption of a giant global conspiracy......and that I'm afraid about sums it up.

What are you even saying...?

I thought I'd join in with some incoherent flat earth speak......

I am afraid you are on your own with that... Shillymcshillerstein.

It was my lame attempt to have a go at "flat earth double no speak sense talk" and I have to admit I'm not very good at it. Your so much better by the way, a past master.

I honestly cant believe you posted that.

Are you referring the the Jewish flat Earthers?

Are the words of their sages "flat earth double no speak sense talk"?

Well indeed, you catch on quick...ishhhh.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #320 on: May 03, 2017, 11:53:15 AM »
Lonegranger claims he is here to stamp out ignorance, and here he is making snotty sarcastic remarks.

Oh, no, he cannot just admit to mistakes.

He must maintain his online shill profile to remain believable.

You sad sorry shill...

I cant imagine what the people will do to you when they all wake up.

Earth is flat.

NASA knows it.

The Jewish sages know/knew it.

Mankind used to know it.

The Age of Enlightenment is now.


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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #321 on: May 03, 2017, 02:15:50 PM »
Lonegranger claims he is here to stamp out ignorance, and here he is making snotty sarcastic remarks.

Oh, no, he cannot just admit to mistakes.

He must maintain his online shill profile to remain believable.

You sad sorry shill...

I cant imagine what the people will do to you when they all wake up.

Earth is flat.

NASA knows it.

The Jewish sages know/knew it.

Mankind used to know it.

The Age of Enlightenment is now.

STAMP OUT IGNORANCE.....who said that, but it's an idea, but the only thing is, to stamp out your ignorance I'd need bloody great big shoes, as you have one hell of a lot of ignorance that needs stamping, but I think I'll give that thankless task a miss.
What crazy things are you up to today? Looks like you and junkyman did the same course on flat earth double talk....was it craptalk 101? As you both appear to operate by saying the same thing, over and over again, though you have a peculiar line in constantly making things up and telling lies. This habit you have of calling people you don't even know anything about...shills! What's that about?

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #322 on: May 03, 2017, 07:46:06 PM »
Earth is flat.
Incorrect! Arealhumanbeing believes Earth is flat.

Prove it! I don't remember even seeing any evidence from you.

Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
NASA knows it.
Incorrect!
If you disagree, Prove it!

Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
The Jewish sages know/knew it.
No, The Jewish sages know/knew believed it.

But, so what, "Boko (Haram) also says the earth is flat"!

The threats are outlined in a new report by Human Rights Watch,
which lays bare the devastating impact wreaked by Boko Haram
on Nigeria's school system. File photo Image by: AFP

Quote from: Times Live, South Africa
Teachers of the subject have emerged as an unlikely top target for the group because their lessons contradict its bizarre views that the earth is flat and that rainfall is caused by God's divine will rather than by evaporation.

They are now ranked alongside Nigerian security chiefs and senior politicians as prime candidates for assassination.
From: Boko says the earth is flat.
Just because an ancient group like the Jewish Sages believes that the earth is flat means nothing!

Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
Mankind used to know it.
No, Mankind used to know believe the earth to be flat,
simply because they had seen no evidence to the contrary.

Sure back in the small region of Babylon and surrounding regions. But there is a massive difference between the Babylonian "flat earth" and the modern "neo-flatist model".
They actually believed that the sun moon and stars rose from behind the horizon.

Not like this current "neo-flatist model" with the heavenly bodies circling above the earth.
This leaves the modern flat earthers unable to explain not only the sun and moon rising and setting or even lunar phases and eclipses as we observe them.

So Arealhumanbeing, it's time you to start stating your reasons.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #323 on: May 18, 2017, 05:18:06 PM »
Earth is flat because thats what I see it as. Ive never seen, with my own eyes, a giant floating spinning ball.

I know it's true because NASA lies constantly.

And also because the Jewish sages think its flat as well.

Why dont you go convince Boko that the Earth is a ball, Rab?

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #324 on: May 19, 2017, 12:42:23 AM »
Earth is flat because thats what I see it as. Ive never seen, with my own eyes, a giant floating spinning ball.

I know it's true because NASA lies constantly.

And also because the Jewish sages think its flat as well.

Why dont you go convince Boko that the Earth is a ball, Rab?

False logic throughout.

If you only belive what you can see does that mean you don't believe in electrons or atoms?
Do you think you computer works by magic as there is no moving parts to observe?

Where is your proof regarding NASA?
What credibility do Jewish sages have in regard to anything let alone the nature of our planet?

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #325 on: May 23, 2017, 08:36:19 PM »
נשא

The Hebrew Word NASA

Found in the Bible over 600 times.

The verb now known as נשׂא (nasa') denotes a motion upward and usually away.

It can also mean to deceive, delude, beguile, and lend... but only with interest.


[Citations]
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Dictionary/n/n-si-a.html#.WST7bBPyuRs
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5378.htm
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5377.htm

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #326 on: May 24, 2017, 07:42:25 PM »
You can find some ancient rabbis, who studied little more than the Bible only, whose grasp of astronomy and planetary science was very sketchy.

On the other hand, for the last two centuries, at least, Jews have been among the most prominent astronomers/astrophysicists and not only believe the earth is round but could PROVE it thirty different ways.

And I am decidedly cranked by the antisemitic cartoon shown in this thread.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #327 on: May 24, 2017, 08:29:04 PM »
I always wonder why globers treat history in such an ackward fashion.
Really, you might find that the shoe is on the other foot!
Quote from: dutchy
If certain Jews believed our earth was flat, it accounts for an ancient Sage, but ''Eratosthenes'' is surely a historical figure and a cornerstone for ancient research+facts of the globe.
Aristotle, Eratosthenes, Aristarchus of Samos are certainly historical figures, but we do not rely on their evidence. The "Heliocentric Globe theory" is a continuous progression from that time right up till the present day.

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It is a reckless attempt to cherry pick between history and fantasy from the past to validate their ''globe''.
''Jesus Christ'' is under all sorts of scrunity tests lately and ''Eratosthenes'' is Exhibit A for historical ''spherical earth'' awareness.
Where's this "cherry picking".
There is simply no connection or competition between Jesus Christ and the shape of the earth.
The vast majority of Christians have no doubts that the earth is a Globe, nor that Jesus Christ is a historical figure and the Son of God.

It's only a minority, such as yourself, that choose to make that link.

You might read Flat Earth General / Re: Constellations? « Message by rabinoz on April 27, 2017, 08:41:44 AM »
But, there is no doubt that the early Christian Church, in general,
supported the Globe Earth, though the shape of the earth was never a "matter of faith".

And you might even read this on Muslim belief, both current and historical:
Flat Earth General / Re: John « Message by rabinoz on May 23, 2017, 08:10:53 AM »

Quote from: dutchy
Some globers really need to put off their coloured glasses.... :o
Says dutchy, who never removes his NASAphobic glasses.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #328 on: June 14, 2017, 09:07:37 AM »
Hey Rabinoz, you lying shill twat, how long is a "stadia"?

You should know, since you use Eratosthenes and his work as evidence for a globe so often.

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Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« Reply #329 on: June 15, 2017, 02:06:54 AM »
Hey Rabinoz, you lying shill twat, how long is a "stadia"?

You should know, since you use Eratosthenes and his work as evidence for a globe so often.
Irrelevant!

But, you are incorrect, as usual, Eratosthenes did not set out to prove the earth is a Globe, he already knew that!
Eratosthenes was one of the earliest to measure the circumference of the earth.

And you might note that:
Eratosthenes result, though not as accurate, is quite consistent with measurements done by the Indian mathematician Aryabhata (AD 476–550), the medieval Persian Abu Rayhan al-Biruni (973–1048), Jean Picard in 1669–1670 to US geodesist Hayford  in ~1910 with an accuracy of 200 m to recent even more more precise measurements from NASA.

As to the definition of a stade, that is far from certain. You could read up on it yourself in:
Mathematical Accociation of America, Eratosthenes and the Mystery of the Stades - How Long Is a Stade?

Mind you, the method used by Eratosthenes can be extended to prove that the earth is a Globe!