what exactly do the stars do?

So we're still waiting on the results from the op...

and FE...

and FE...

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 09, 2016, 06:34:26 AM

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Quote from: -leigh- on September 08, 2016, 05:13:22 PM

they produce the light in the firmament(the dome,the lense)the lense then concentrates the light down giving us the sun and the moon

They what?

By "the lense then concentrates the light down giving us the sun and the moon"

do you seriously mean that the stars produce all the light for the sun and moon? 

i hope they do,i hope so

Would you please explain what medium causes all that light to be focused into objects like this:

its not an object that is a fake picture i promise you

Look at the moon through a telescope. It is a sphere.

Clearly the government has infiltrated the telescope industry, and installs small ludicrous-high-defenition moniters inside them and motion trackers to sense where the telescopes are pointing, so that they can give exactly the image they want.

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Quote from: Brouwer on September 10, 2016, 12:09:12 PM

In FE, stars are rotating around Polaris (or north celestial pole) on circular orbits.

Don't ask me how far they are, because all answers that I saw made no sense vs observations.

so they circle in a similar manner to how the sun does in the FE model? so are they also much closer to the earth then? and smaller too?

any FEs want to chime in on this too?

In FE model we have Dome above us, Sun and Moon are all the time
some 3000 miles above the ground, and the Dome is above them.

Stars are small, glued to the Dome. Dome rotates, and stars with it. Several "wandering stars"
(planets, their moons, asteroids, commets...) are flying around off their leash.

Some weird optics shows Sun, Moon and Stars at the places where they are not,
so they all look like "setting" or "rising" when are too far from observer.

That is because of properties of light itself.
Celestial light emitted from celestial bodies curves, because of boomerang-photons.
When celestial light hits something (say, pocket mirror) it is not curved any more,
because boomerang-photons get squished and lose ability to curve.

I just don't understand how are those boomerang-photons, before get squished,
so well trained to fly in formation, instead of getting scattered all over the place.
(If you fire coins from shotgun, they do get scattered beyond any aiming.)

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and FE...

Really.  I'm sorry but I must have missed it.  How does FE explain the movement of the stars in the northern and Southern Hemisphere?

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Quote from: narcberry on October 12, 2016, 06:37:22 PM

and FE...

Really.  I'm sorry but I must have missed it.  How does FE explain the movement of the stars in the northern and Southern Hemisphere?

Mathematically

Quote from: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 04:33:39 PM

Quote from: Badxtoss on October 13, 2016, 12:21:11 PM

Quote from: narcberry on October 12, 2016, 06:37:22 PM

and FE...

Really.  I'm sorry but I must have missed it.  How does FE explain the movement of the stars in the northern and Southern Hemisphere?

Mathematically

Ok, go ahead.  Explain it.  Using math or anything else you like

Quote from: Badxtoss on October 16, 2016, 05:36:56 PM

Quote from: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 04:33:39 PM

Quote from: Badxtoss on October 13, 2016, 12:21:11 PM

Quote from: narcberry on October 12, 2016, 06:37:22 PM

and FE...

Really.  I'm sorry but I must have missed it.  How does FE explain the movement of the stars in the northern and Southern Hemisphere?

Mathematically

Ok, go ahead.  Explain it.  Using math or anything else you like

Here you go: https://schoolyourself.org/

Quote from: Badxtoss on October 16, 2016, 05:36:56 PM

Quote from: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 04:33:39 PM

Quote from: Badxtoss on October 13, 2016, 12:21:11 PM

Quote from: narcberry on October 12, 2016, 06:37:22 PM

and FE...

Really.  I'm sorry but I must have missed it.  How does FE explain the movement of the stars in the northern and Southern Hemisphere?

Mathematically

Ok, go ahead.  Explain it.  Using math or anything else you like

Here you go: https://schoolyourself.org/

I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
I'm very good at integral and differential calculus;
                 From "The Pirates of Penzance" by Gilbert and Sullivan.

Typical lame answer.

I look up at night and see the stars rotating around Polaris

This is Q&A and YOU have set yourself up as the "ultimate authority", so I am asking how do the stars in the Southern Hemisphere appear to rotate clockwise about the Southe Celestial Pole.
And explain how that South Celestial Pole is exactly due south of everyone, though only those in the Southern Hemisphere can see the point in the sky where it is.

So answer the question in your own words!

I look up at night and see the stars rotating around Polaris

That is exactly what they want for you to believe.

Glad to have you back Jane.

Thank you! It's good to be back. Sometimes.

Quote from: Empirical on January 06, 2016, 12:16:53 PM

There seems to be a lot of topics saying that a flat earth contradicts astronomy, but no one has tried making a working of the stars, or asking how they work.
So instead of saying stars can't work on your model. I want to ask you how do they work on your model. How do they move, do they increase in distance, how near do stars need to be for you to see them. How do you get around the SCP problem.

Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I mean after all, they're just lights in the sky.  How much can we expect to ever know about them?

In any case, you might like Zetetic Astronomy.  Zetetic means "seeker."  As in, seeker of truth. 

http://sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za30.htm

Quote from: Jane on October 17, 2016, 04:42:01 PM

Thank you! It's good to be back. Sometimes.

I'd like you to know that Sceptimatic is still the very paragon of reason on this forum.
Just recently, he has showed with his UNCANNY ability to research, that fission, nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants are indeed all fake.
The absolute MOUNTAIN of evidence he has provided with his thorough studies is simply astounding beyond...
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Whew, fun one.
There are a few answers to this one. There's the celestial gears model, which essentially models the gravitational influence of the stars as interlocking gears, so as one rotates the other rotates in the opposite direction. I just can't work out any clear way for the stars to be distributed between 'gears,' to get rotation around two points but that's one explanation.

The other explanation is in DET. a less-accepted model, but still. At a basic level, the idea is that the Earth is a two-sided disk, the edge being at the equator, so that you could easily get stars rotating above two points, one above and one below.
There's a whole host of things to say how the crossing of the equator works (though if you assume it's possible to cross, then the same would hold for light so we would observe stars rotating about two points near there), there's an explanation it's just quite a long aside for a question on a different topic.

Globe earthers have one model of the globe earth. How many models of the flat earth are in use?

Quote from: Globetrotter on October 18, 2016, 06:57:54 AM

Globe earthers have one model of the globe earth. How many models of the flat earth are in use?

Why is that question relevant?

Whew, fun one.
There are a few answers to this one. There's the celestial gears model, which essentially models the gravitational influence of the stars as interlocking gears, so as one rotates the other rotates in the opposite direction. I just can't work out any clear way for the stars to be distributed between 'gears,' to get rotation around two points but that's one explanation.

The other explanation is in DET. a less-accepted model, but still. At a basic level, the idea is that the Earth is a two-sided disk, the edge being at the equator, so that you could easily get stars rotating above two points, one above and one below.
There's a whole host of things to say how the crossing of the equator works (though if you assume it's possible to cross, then the same would hold for light so we would observe stars rotating about two points near there), there's an explanation it's just quite a long aside for a question on a different topic.