alaskan long days and nights

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tun

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alaskan long days and nights
« on: September 06, 2016, 03:02:04 PM »
in barrow, alaska it is well known that they have a 67 day long night, where they will not see the sun in the winter, and 80 days of sun in the summer.

how does the FE model support this? the FE paths for the sun that i have seen can work for the seasons e.t.c. but none of them can support this.

can anybody help me understand this?

thanks

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Songitlc

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Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2016, 08:38:53 PM »
I'm always excited to share the stories you've read.

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tun

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Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2016, 06:41:52 AM »
I'm always excited to share the stories you've read.
what do you mean?

Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2016, 07:16:33 AM »
I'm always excited to share the stories you've read.
Are you implying that everybody in barrow Alaska is lyingng?
I wonder how obnoxious I can make my signature?
Please give me ideas.

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Slemon

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Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2016, 05:53:36 AM »
There are a lot of FE models out there, some do struggle with that question but not all. For one, there's a model where the Earth is a two-sided disc (there is an explanation for that, but it takes a while to explain, so sustain your disbelief as far as this question goes) so as there are two distinct poles, day lengths are much easier to explain. It's just a matter of where the Sun shines (technically where the Earth tilts, the Sun's not easy to explain under this model either, but you can see how it could work).
Gist: there are models beyond the  flat disc with the North Pole at the centre and the South at the rim.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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tun

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Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2016, 07:11:31 AM »
I'm always excited to share the stories you've read.
Are you implying that everybody in barrow Alaska is lyingng?

i dont think he knows what hes implying :/
he says he always likes sharing what ive read like he knows me well. ive been here for a couple of days XD

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tun

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Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2016, 07:15:32 AM »
There are a lot of FE models out there, some do struggle with that question but not all. For one, there's a model where the Earth is a two-sided disc (there is an explanation for that, but it takes a while to explain, so sustain your disbelief as far as this question goes) so as there are two distinct poles, day lengths are much easier to explain. It's just a matter of where the Sun shines (technically where the Earth tilts, the Sun's not easy to explain under this model either, but you can see how it could work).
Gist: there are models beyond the  flat disc with the North Pole at the centre and the South at the rim.


ok, im thinking about it and i can see how the sun could spiral, rather than just circle like in most of the images ive seen. the sun could make a tighter circle in the northern summer, then a wider circle in the northern winter.
am i on track here?

Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2016, 08:26:39 AM »
There are a lot of FE models out there, some do struggle with that question but not all. For one, there's a model where the Earth is a two-sided disc (there is an explanation for that, but it takes a while to explain, so sustain your disbelief as far as this question goes) so as there are two distinct poles, day lengths are much easier to explain. It's just a matter of where the Sun shines (technically where the Earth tilts, the Sun's not easy to explain under this model either, but you can see how it could work).
Gist: there are models beyond the  flat disc with the North Pole at the centre and the South at the rim.


ok, im thinking about it and i can see how the sun could spiral, rather than just circle like in most of the images ive seen. the sun could make a tighter circle in the northern summer, then a wider circle in the northern winter.
am i on track here?
That is their explanation, but it doesn't explain how Antarctica has month-long days.
I wonder how obnoxious I can make my signature?
Please give me ideas.

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Slemon

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Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2016, 10:40:33 AM »
There are a lot of FE models out there, some do struggle with that question but not all. For one, there's a model where the Earth is a two-sided disc (there is an explanation for that, but it takes a while to explain, so sustain your disbelief as far as this question goes) so as there are two distinct poles, day lengths are much easier to explain. It's just a matter of where the Sun shines (technically where the Earth tilts, the Sun's not easy to explain under this model either, but you can see how it could work).
Gist: there are models beyond the  flat disc with the North Pole at the centre and the South at the rim.


ok, im thinking about it and i can see how the sun could spiral, rather than just circle like in most of the images ive seen. the sun could make a tighter circle in the northern summer, then a wider circle in the northern winter.
am i on track here?

That's how it works in the normal model, though as far as day lengths go, as you pointed out, it doesn't help. With farther to go on the outer track, day lengths would be off.
Under this particular FE model (nicknamed DET, Dual Earth Theory, to help distinguish) the exact means the Sun works are, like I said, pretty complex. The gist is that the Sun in the sky is a projection/reflection, and there are two such projections, one for the North and one for the South. It's simpler than it sounds, I swear, but the details of the mechanism would take a while to go into.
The projections are connected, so as one moves inwards, the other moves outwards, similar to what you said. However, the existence of two poles, one on each side of the disc, mean you'd get what we observe.
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

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tun

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Re: alaskan long days and nights
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2016, 11:25:08 AM »
so how big is the sun in the FE models then? i remember seeing that it is 3000miles above earth (is that correct?) so i would assume it to be much smaller than the RE sun, which is ~90 million miles away.

sorry if this is off topic, but it works in my thought train :)