Where do you put your sun?

I know that a model is just that. A model... But most of your models place the sun at the equator. On the flat earth. In lets say Australia, the sun travels east to west in the sky. In Sweden the sun travels west to east.

By the way, in northern Sweden (north of lat 72) the sun never rises above the horizon for a pretty long period of time every year.

Just tell me where you place the sun in your model.

Open the picture (ONLY the picture), copy the link, put (img)(/img) around the link. But use [] instead of ().
Looks like this:



If you've opened the picture correctly, it usually ends .jpg or .png (in this case it doesn't).

Just had to upload it to another site.

So... Where is it?

On the flat earth. In lets say Australia, the sun travels east to west in the sky. In Sweden the sun travels west to east.

In your picture, all of the arrows are pointing to the west, no matter where you are on the map.  I am not sure what is confusing you so much.

Quote from: Cirshiss on September 06, 2016, 06:12:27 AM

On the flat earth. In lets say Australia, the sun travels east to west in the sky. In Sweden the sun travels west to east.

In your picture, all of the arrows are pointing to the west, no matter where you are on the map.  I am not sure what is confusing you so much.

Not if you stand on Australia and India and look at the sun at the same time.

:I forgot. You don't view the cardinal directions the same. Nevermind

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 07:27:58 AM

Quote from: Cirshiss on September 06, 2016, 06:12:27 AM

On the flat earth. In lets say Australia, the sun travels east to west in the sky. In Sweden the sun travels west to east.

In your picture, all of the arrows are pointing to the west, no matter where you are on the map.  I am not sure what is confusing you so much.

Not if you stand on Australia and India and look at the sun at the same time

Okay, here's something I had not expected to say today, but Jroa is correct.

North is at the North Pole. That means South is every point at the edge. That means that when you look North then East becomes right and West becomes left. The arrows allways point from Right to Left, which is East to West.

Gratz Jroa! You finally said something that was correct about a picture.

Has no real-world application, but it was in fact a correct observation.

Not if you stand on Australia and India and look at the sun at the same time.

:I forgot. You don't view the cardinal directions the same. Nevermind

Cardinal directions are the same. 

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Let me try this a different way; if two people, using your examples, are in Australia and India, and are facing the sun as it comes towards them, both of their left shoulders would be towards the north pole. 

Okay, here's something I had not expected to say today, but Jroa is correct.

North is at the North Pole. That means South is every point at the edge. That means that when you look North then East becomes right and West becomes left. The arrows allways point from Right to Left, which is East to West.

Gratz Jroa! You finally said something that was correct about a picture.

Has no real-world application, but it was in fact a correct observation.

I need to save this quote, for future reference. 

/Agree. It is me who can't fathom your world map.

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Based on the picture:
If I am standing at the equator and the Sun is directly overhead, I know the Sun must move west, along the circle. 6h later the Sun still moves along the circle, still due west. But it is no longer visible due west, but north-west. Why?

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 07:45:29 AM

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Based on the picture:
If I am standing at the equator and the Sun is directly overhead, I know the Sun must move west, along the circle. 6h later the Sun still moves along the circle, still due west. But it is no longer visible due west, but north-west. Why?

You have been here for quite a while, so you all ready know the answer.  However, I remind you again, since you seem to be having an Alzheimer's‎ moment.  The air is not perfectly transparent. 

Their, FE model implies that sun's path is constantly changing the distance from North Pole, making the circles around it smaller and larger and thus once visible high, while low at other times (they explain that it is perspective that causes that we see it low, but in fact it is only farther away).

However, I'm still awaiting for a still unanswered question from this link: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67732.0

Quote from: Omega on September 06, 2016, 07:42:32 AM

Okay, here's something I had not expected to say today, but Jroa is correct.

I need to save this quote, for future reference.

 

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:00:34 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 07:45:29 AM

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Based on the picture:
If I am standing at the equator and the Sun is directly overhead, I know the Sun must move west, along the circle. 6h later the Sun still moves along the circle, still due west. But it is no longer visible due west, but north-west. Why?

You have been here for quite a while, so you all ready know the answer.  However, I remind you again, since you seem to be having an Alzheimer's‎ moment.  The air is not perfectly transparent.

How the transparency of the air can change light direction by 45 degress? How is that even relevant?

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 08:06:24 AM

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:00:34 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 07:45:29 AM

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Based on the picture:
If I am standing at the equator and the Sun is directly overhead, I know the Sun must move west, along the circle. 6h later the Sun still moves along the circle, still due west. But it is no longer visible due west, but north-west. Why?

You have been here for quite a while, so you all ready know the answer.  However, I remind you again, since you seem to be having an Alzheimer's‎ moment.  The air is not perfectly transparent.

How the transparency of the air can change light direction by 45 degress? How is that even relevant?

Why do you bounce back and forth between different topics?  Is it because you are grasping at straws as you watch your world collapse around you? 

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:09:40 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 08:06:24 AM

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:00:34 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 07:45:29 AM

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Based on the picture:
If I am standing at the equator and the Sun is directly overhead, I know the Sun must move west, along the circle. 6h later the Sun still moves along the circle, still due west. But it is no longer visible due west, but north-west. Why?

You have been here for quite a while, so you all ready know the answer.  However, I remind you again, since you seem to be having an Alzheimer's‎ moment.  The air is not perfectly transparent.

How the transparency of the air can change light direction by 45 degress? How is that even relevant?

Why do you bounce back and forth between different topics?  Is it because you are grasping at straws as you watch your world collapse around you?

I'm multi-tasking person.

Kindly waiting for the answer.

Why do you bounce back and forth between different topics?  Is it because you are grasping at straws as you watch your world collapse around you?

Yeah, I've never seen jroa randomly change a topic, EVER!

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 08:14:33 AM

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:09:40 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 08:06:24 AM

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:00:34 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 07:45:29 AM

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Based on the picture:
If I am standing at the equator and the Sun is directly overhead, I know the Sun must move west, along the circle. 6h later the Sun still moves along the circle, still due west. But it is no longer visible due west, but north-west. Why?

You have been here for quite a while, so you all ready know the answer.  However, I remind you again, since you seem to be having an Alzheimer's‎ moment.  The air is not perfectly transparent.

How the transparency of the air can change light direction by 45 degress? How is that even relevant?

Why do you bounce back and forth between different topics?  Is it because you are grasping at straws as you watch your world collapse around you?

I'm multi-tasking person.

Kindly waiting for the answer.

Perhaps you could consider sticking to a single subject at one time, and when something else pops into your head, you are more than welcome to make a new thread? 

Perhaps you could consider sticking to a single subject at one time, and when something else pops into your head, you are more than welcome to make a new thread?

There are too many threads in this forum, so it's very hard to find that there often are repeated topics. So, for clearence only it should be avoided new threads, if only older ones have similar topics.

Perhaps you could consider sticking to a single subject at one time, and when something else pops into your head, you are more than welcome to make a new thread?

I need to save THIS quote, for future reference 

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 08:47:43 AM

Perhaps you could consider sticking to a single subject at one time, and when something else pops into your head, you are more than welcome to make a new thread?

I need to save THIS quote, for future reference 

After reading that I wanted to say something like - don't go by my words but by my actions.

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:16:38 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 08:14:33 AM

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:09:40 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 08:06:24 AM

Quote from: Brouwer on September 06, 2016, 08:00:34 AM

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 07:45:29 AM

If north is at the north pole in the center, and you were facing it, then anything traveling westward on your map would be coming from your right, no matter where on your map you are standing.  I still don't understand what you are not understanding. 

Based on the picture:
If I am standing at the equator and the Sun is directly overhead, I know the Sun must move west, along the circle. 6h later the Sun still moves along the circle, still due west. But it is no longer visible due west, but north-west. Why?

You have been here for quite a while, so you all ready know the answer.  However, I remind you again, since you seem to be having an Alzheimer's‎ moment.  The air is not perfectly transparent.

How the transparency of the air can change light direction by 45 degress? How is that even relevant?

Why do you bounce back and forth between different topics?  Is it because you are grasping at straws as you watch your world collapse around you?

I'm multi-tasking person.

Kindly waiting for the answer.

Perhaps you could consider sticking to a single subject at one time, and when something else pops into your head, you are more than welcome to make a new thread?

Been there. Tried that. Then jroa came and changed the subject. Or started insulting/trolling/shitposting (you can pick more than one option!).

My question is related to the position of the Sun on FE model. Based on that position I create a specific event that requires further explaination.

I put it to flowerpot. looks nice.