Do you guys actually believe the Earth is flat?

Or are you just doing it ironically for some sort of satisfaction?

Or are you just doing it ironically for some sort of satisfaction?

There are some here who actually believe this. 'Believe' is the operate word. They don't accept any observation (even their own), except 'it looks flat when I look outside my window'.

That is the soul basis for their belief.

There literally is nothing else.

All arguments they make to keep their belief can be traced back to that one statement: 'it looks flat so it is flat'.

I think in this forum, there are 2...maybe 3 people that really believe the earth is flat. They're either insane or retarded.

Of course I, and most of the flat Earthers, believe the Earth is flat.  There might be a few here trolling, like the round Earthers, who come here day after day making the exact same arguments. 

The earth is flat.

Jroa doesn't really believe earth is flat; you'll realize it when reading his posts.

Spacecow might really believe in flat earth, but she's a redneck so it doesn't count.

Jroa doesn't really believe earth is flat; you'll realize it when reading his posts.

Spacecow might really believe in flat earth, but she's a redneck so it doesn't count.

I DO TO THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT, JERKFACE!!!

Quote from: User324 on September 06, 2016, 10:19:25 AM

Jroa doesn't really believe earth is flat; you'll realize it when reading his posts.

Spacecow might really believe in flat earth, but she's a redneck so it doesn't count.

I DO TO THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT, JERKFACE!!!

Jroa is a roundy! Jroa is a roundy!

Quote from: jroa on September 06, 2016, 10:20:30 AM

Quote from: User324 on September 06, 2016, 10:19:25 AM

Jroa doesn't really believe earth is flat; you'll realize it when reading his posts.

Spacecow might really believe in flat earth, but she's a redneck so it doesn't count.

I DO TO THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT, JERKFACE!!!

Jroa is a roundy! Jroa is a roundy!

STOP COMING ON TO ME!!!

Now he is an angry roundy.

Only because I let you touch my bum.   

Now he's a perverse angry roundy.

Jroa is the most obvious Roundie troll I have seen on this forum.

Or are you just doing it ironically for some sort of satisfaction?

at the moment im swinging towards a round earth (naturally since this is what i was taught growing up), but i am very open minded to the idea of a flat earth, which is why im here.
you should not assume your current knowledge is correct and disregard all theories that go against it without looking into them, thats just not how you get a proper conclusion. that is how most conspiracy theories get blown out of proportion.

anybody with a need to better themselves (FEer or REer) will take on new information and look at it from a non-biased point of view in order to understand things better.

we are all wrong at some point in our lives.

Quote from: BallForEarth on September 06, 2016, 12:54:55 AM

Or are you just doing it ironically for some sort of satisfaction?

at the moment im swinging towards a round earth (naturally since this is what i was taught growing up), but i am very open minded to the idea of a flat earth, which is why im here.
you should not assume your current knowledge is correct and disregard all theories that go against it without looking into them, thats just not how you get a proper conclusion. that is how most conspiracy theories get blown out of proportion.

anybody with a need to better themselves (FEer or REer) will take on new information and look at it from a non-biased point of view in order to understand things better.

we are all wrong at some point in our lives.

Don't take their word for it, go outside and do your own experiments. Two weeks ago, I used my telescope and saw the ISS, so I know it is round.

Quote from: BallForEarth on September 06, 2016, 12:54:55 AM

Or are you just doing it ironically for some sort of satisfaction?

at the moment im swinging towards a round earth (naturally since this is what i was taught growing up), but i am very open minded to the idea of a flat earth, which is why im here.
you should not assume your current knowledge is correct and disregard all theories that go against it without looking into them, thats just not how you get a proper conclusion. that is how most conspiracy theories get blown out of proportion.

anybody with a need to better themselves (FEer or REer) will take on new information and look at it from a non-biased point of view in order to understand things better.

we are all wrong at some point in our lives.

Search for my thread "astounding easy to disprove flat earth", read it and you can leave this forum

Quote from: tun on September 07, 2016, 07:09:23 AM

Quote from: BallForEarth on September 06, 2016, 12:54:55 AM

Or are you just doing it ironically for some sort of satisfaction?

at the moment im swinging towards a round earth (naturally since this is what i was taught growing up), but i am very open minded to the idea of a flat earth, which is why im here.
you should not assume your current knowledge is correct and disregard all theories that go against it without looking into them, thats just not how you get a proper conclusion. that is how most conspiracy theories get blown out of proportion.

anybody with a need to better themselves (FEer or REer) will take on new information and look at it from a non-biased point of view in order to understand things better.

we are all wrong at some point in our lives.

Search for my thread "astounding easy to disprove flat earth", read it and you can leave this forum

His thread is a great read. But you don't have to leave, it's fun here. lol. I've seen the ISS, seen shuttles launch, used my telescope to view the stars, all of which can used to figure out that we do in fact live on a globe.

Quote from: tun on September 07, 2016, 07:09:23 AM

Quote from: BallForEarth on September 06, 2016, 12:54:55 AM

Or are you just doing it ironically for some sort of satisfaction?

at the moment im swinging towards a round earth (naturally since this is what i was taught growing up), but i am very open minded to the idea of a flat earth, which is why im here.
you should not assume your current knowledge is correct and disregard all theories that go against it without looking into them, thats just not how you get a proper conclusion. that is how most conspiracy theories get blown out of proportion.

anybody with a need to better themselves (FEer or REer) will take on new information and look at it from a non-biased point of view in order to understand things better.

we are all wrong at some point in our lives.

Search for my thread "astounding easy to disprove flat earth", read it and you can leave this forum

great thread. the stars thing is what i was going to ask next. in fact i still will because i first want to understand how the stars act in the FE model. maybe they spin around earth? but thats for another thread

EDIT:
never mind, ive just woken up. the patterns would still not happen on a FE even if the stars did rotate around the earth.

Search for my thread "astounding easy to disprove flat earth", read it and you can leave this forum

That's a good couple of arguments and nicely presented. Kudos to you for taking the time and effort to put them together in such a concise form!

I think the earth could be a plane and not a globe.  I'm coming from the standpoint that we're lied to right and left about everything.  Deception is so pervasive, seems we're forever having to cut through a bunch of crap to get to the truth.

I am, however, a geocentrist.  I believe that the earth is stationary and that the sun, etc., go around it.  Now whether the sun is going around a globe, or hovering over a disc--that's something I'd like to know.

For me the jury is still out.

Jesus Christ was teaching Jews how to be poor so Roman conquerers won't be able
to collect taxes and finance the conquesring army to stay there.
Similar strategy Gandhi used in India recently against Brits.

It worked.

Christianity started to spread in other Roman colonies.
Romans first tried to exterminate them.
They were "thrown to lions in arenas, crucified all the way along roads,
and still their numbers grew.

Last step Romans took is when Constantine I assembled First Nicaea Council,
where they composed Bible, and gave newly created Church authority to
slowly reshape Christianity for the purpose of Roman rule.

It was so successful that Europe had 1000 years of Dark Ages,
and Christianity ruled pretty well, more or less.
At least always had big influence in world's politics.
That influence was sometimes so "wrong" that Protestants in Germany
and Anglicans in Britany permanently separated from Roman Catholic Church.

(Roman Catholics separated from the rest of Christians 1054 AD for other reasons.
One was to establish Pope as "God on Earth": Supreme authority and Errorless.)

Vandals ruined Rome, but you can see where was later the Holy Roman Empire.

In all that, Church still never abandoned ancient knowledge that the Earth was sphere.
Static, in the center of Heavens, but since everything on Earth tends to the center,
it all compresses it into sphere.

Virtually every scholar, even during Dark Ages, knew the Earth is sphere
and could calculate diameter, area, volume.

Later, for Renaissance, Copernicus, Bruno, Galileo and others were showing that
GeoCentrism (EgoCentrism) is not real, Sun is much bigger than Earth and other planets,
Bruno was burnt, Galileo almost burnt, and so on.

Force could always keep truth hidden for some time, but never forever.
Heliocentric system couldn't be distorted any more and hidden from ordinary people.

Few people are trying to revert history back to GeoCentrism (and Church rule),
and even go step further, introducing Flat Earth as consequence of
Rowbotham's deception in 19th century, but people are less amd less superstitious.

They want to KNOW.
Belief and Dogma is not enough any more.

It is fine to believe that the earth is still and everything moves around it, but it makes calculations a hell of a lot more complicated.

I think the earth could be a plane and not a globe.  I'm coming from the standpoint that we're lied to right and left about everything.  Deception is so pervasive, seems we're forever having to cut through a bunch of crap to get to the truth.

I am, however, a geocentrist.  I believe that the earth is stationary and that the sun, etc., go around it.  Now whether the sun is going around a globe, or hovering over a disc--that's something I'd like to know.

For me the jury is still out.

This lady (Alexandra1973) looks not interested in explanations or discussions. She comes from time to time just to make a statement.

Quote from: Alexandra1973 on September 13, 2016, 06:30:14 PM

I think the earth could be a plane and not a globe.  I'm coming from the standpoint that we're lied to right and left about everything.  Deception is so pervasive, seems we're forever having to cut through a bunch of crap to get to the truth.

I am, however, a geocentrist.  I believe that the earth is stationary and that the sun, etc., go around it.  Now whether the sun is going around a globe, or hovering over a disc--that's something I'd like to know.

For me the jury is still out.

This lady (Alexandra1973) looks not interested in explanations or discussions. She comes from time to time just to make a statement.

Reported for alts.

also fun fact you wont ever get an intelligent answer to a legitimate question

Jesus Christ was teaching Jews how to be poor so Roman conquerers won't be able
to collect taxes and finance the conquesring army to stay there.
Similar strategy Gandhi used in India recently against Brits.

It worked.

Christianity started to spread in other Roman colonies.
Romans first tried to exterminate them.
They were "thrown to lions in arenas, crucified all the way along roads,
and still their numbers grew.

Last step Romans took is when Constantine I assembled First Nicaea Council,
where they composed Bible, and gave newly created Church authority to
slowly reshape Christianity for the purpose of Roman rule.

It was so successful that Europe had 1000 years of Dark Ages,
and Christianity ruled pretty well, more or less.
At least always had big influence in world's politics.
That influence was sometimes so "wrong" that Protestants in Germany
and Anglicans in Britany permanently separated from Roman Catholic Church.

(Roman Catholics separated from the rest of Christians 1054 AD for other reasons.
One was to establish Pope as "God on Earth": Supreme authority and Errorless.)

Vandals ruined Rome, but you can see where was later the Holy Roman Empire.

In all that, Church still never abandoned ancient knowledge that the Earth was sphere.
Static, in the center of Heavens, but since everything on Earth tends to the center,
it all compresses it into sphere.

Virtually every scholar, even during Dark Ages, knew the Earth is sphere
and could calculate diameter, area, volume.

Later, for Renaissance, Copernicus, Bruno, Galileo and others were showing that
GeoCentrism (EgoCentrism) is not real, Sun is much bigger than Earth and other planets,
Bruno was burnt, Galileo almost burnt, and so on.

Force could always keep truth hidden for some time, but never forever.
Heliocentric system couldn't be distorted any more and hidden from ordinary people.

Few people are trying to revert history back to GeoCentrism (and Church rule),
and even go step further, introducing Flat Earth as consequence of
Rowbotham's deception in 19th century, but people are less amd less superstitious.

They want to KNOW.
Belief and Dogma is not enough any more.

Apart from the fact that this is full if historical inaccuracies, what are you trying to say here?

The earth, of course, is flat. You wouldn't have come here unless you had some doubts about the matter in the first place.

The earth, of course, is flat. You wouldn't have come here unless you had some doubts about the matter in the first place.

I can think of a couple of other reasons for coming here 

I suspect that some people are here for fun, the way that some others are involved in Star Trek websites as if it were reality.
And others, like me, are here because it's an easy opportunity to argue.
And, frankly, to most people even in the modern world, the real shape of the planet does not affect their lives, so it's a purely academic discussion.
The number of people here who seriously believe that the earth is flat, immobile, etc., is probably around two dozen.

The number of people here who seriously believe that the earth is flat, immobile, etc., is probably around two dozen.

That's my estimate. I'd be surprised if it's more than that. Maybe three at a push. But I'm struggling to name the 3rd.