Is this actually believed?

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Is this actually believed?
« on: September 06, 2016, 12:51:25 AM »
So, if Earth is flat are all the other planets flat? If not why?

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2016, 01:16:52 AM »
So, if Earth is flat are all the other planets flat? If not why?
Not being a Flat Earther, I can only guess that the answer might be something like:
So, if Crows are black are all the other birds black? If not why?

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2016, 02:05:07 AM »
So, if Earth is flat are all the other planets flat? If not why?

According to flat earthers, the Earth is unique. Because they themselves want to feel unique. The idea that Earth is just one of trillions and trillions of planets is something they cannot accept.

If Earth is not unique, then they might not be as special as some book told them they are.

Not that this logic holds up at all.

Even if there are billions of other civilizations out there, humans are still unique. And so is the logic used by flat earthers.
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2016, 03:43:25 AM »
There is no any other planets.

The earth is bigger then all of the others total of stars+sun+moon+planets(!)+falling stars(meteors) and other objects. The are as small as we don't care their shapes.

The earth is flat but the rocks on the earth have several shapes but usually  curve. The bubbles on the sea are corve too. But this means nothing. :)
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 03:45:02 AM by İntikam »
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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2016, 04:08:57 AM »
Of course not! Don't be naive.

People who say they believe the earth is flat are just trolls who feed of your frustration. That frustration comes from their ability to disprove every argument with a wave of a hand.

In this forum we butt heads and out comes some of the most hilarious threads in the whole of internet.

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2016, 04:46:21 AM »
The earth is bigger then all of the others total of stars+sun+moon+planets(!)+falling stars(meteors) and other objects. The are as small as we don't care their shapes.
Speak for yourself.

In human nature, it is the curiosity that brought us so far. Why would we not care about their shapes? It's well known, for centuries at least, where 1st telescope was built, that all observable planets are spherical (or elliptical for the case of bigger planets).


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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2016, 12:26:12 AM »
The earth is bigger then all of the others total of stars+sun+moon+planets(!)+falling stars(meteors) and other objects. The are as small as we don't care their shapes.
Speak for yourself.

In human nature, it is the curiosity that brought us so far. Why would we not care about their shapes? It's well known, for centuries at least, where 1st telescope was built, that all observable planets are spherical (or elliptical for the case of bigger planets).

In human nature accept the earth shape is flat since 5000 years.  When NASA need a lie then dubbed earth as round. We don't need to accept it.

There are some shapes on the sky but we don't know what their shapes and are they real or some illusions. No one gone one of the shapes on the sky. We have only some NASA lies on our hand. So leave lying. We have no any true theory about the shapes on the sky. All lie, everything is lie.  We don't need to believe these lies.
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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2016, 05:24:08 AM »
In human nature accept the earth shape is flat since 5000 years.
No. Human thought the Earth shape was flat 5000 years ago until Aristotle and other great minds of ancient history came up with first idea of a proper scientific theory (they described what the theory should have and what's the proof) and concluded, based on simple observation, that the real shape is not what they thought.

When NASA need a lie then dubbed earth as round. We don't need to accept it.
But you can repeat simple measurements. You don't need to listen to NASA.

There are some shapes on the sky but we don't know what their shapes and are they real or some illusions.
Round, oval, rectangular, pyramidal, undefined etc. The only illusions we observe are due to light being tricky and bending slightly due to the force, whose name makes flat earthers sick. Unless you prefer not knowing what's happening.

We have only some NASA lies on our hand.
If it is what you believe, than I'm sorry for you.

We have no any true theory about the shapes on the sky. All lie, everything is lie.  We don't need to believe these lies.
We have plenty theories and actual observations. You just decide to ignore them as an actual evidence.

You can believe anything you want. But if you have an evidence, it's no longer believing, it's accepting it as real fact.

And as someone clever said: just because you don't understand something, it doesn't mean it's false.

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2016, 05:50:47 AM »
When NASA need a lie then dubbed earth as round. We don't need to accept it...We have only some NASA lies on our hand.
  • Greek astronomer Eratosthenes: not NASA
  • Greek geographer Strabo: not NASA
  • Greek astronomer/geographer Ptolemy: not NASA
  • Indian astronomer/mathematician Aryabhatta: not NASA
  • Every single name on the non-exhaustive list of more than a hundred Latin and vernacular writers from Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages who were aware that the earth was spherical, compiled by Reinhard Krüger, professor for Romance literature at the University of Stuttgart: not NASA

Can we PLEASE get over the flat earth's NASA fetish?  It's really getting tiresome.

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2016, 06:16:46 AM »
Eratosthenes was too late to prove the Earth is sphere.
He just measured it with pretty high degree of accuracy.
Some sources claim that his error was only about 0.58%.
Before Eratosthenes, Plato claimed the Earth is sphere, Aristotle proved it.
And before Plato they had reports from travelers that saw biger part of the world.

"According to Diogenes Laertius, Pythagoras was the first Greek who called the Earth round;
though Theophrastus attributes this to Parmenides,
and Zeno to Hesiod."

From: Wiki Spherical Earth.
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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2016, 06:16:57 AM »
Since I am ignored I can say what I like, so:

<< see revised edition below >>

İntikam claims that: "There is no any other planets.
The earth is bigger then all of the others total of stars+sun+moon+planets(!)+falling stars(meteors) and other objects. The are as small as we don't care their shapes.
The earth is flat but the rocks on the earth have several shapes but usually  curve. The bubbles on the sea are corve too.
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But what İntikam says this means nothing.

Mind you radar signals take
       about 2.5 seconds to travel to the moon and back and
       over 6 minutes  to travel to the Venus and back.
::) ::) If these objects are only about 5,000 km away that's awfully slow radar waves!   ::) ::)

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2016, 06:35:31 AM »
When NASA need a lie then dubbed earth as round. We don't need to accept it...We have only some NASA lies on our hand.
  • Greek astronomer Eratosthenes: not NASA
  • Greek geographer Strabo: not NASA
  • Greek astronomer/geographer Ptolemy: not NASA
  • Indian astronomer/mathematician Aryabhatta: not NASA
  • Every single name on the non-exhaustive list of more than a hundred Latin and vernacular writers from Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages who were aware that the earth was spherical, compiled by Reinhard Krüger, professor for Romance literature at the University of Stuttgart: not NASA

Can we PLEASE get over the flat earth's NASA fetish?  It's really getting tiresome.

This is Eratosthenes'es map. Is that seems like a curve map or a flat map? How we understand he defend the curve with some writings or to look this map?



Strabos map about same with other:



Where on the map we think it is a curve or flat?

The other names not proves they defend the theory of earth is a globe. Names proving nothing. Writing some names don't makes you are right. Just makes you are more liar.
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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2016, 06:47:34 AM »
So, you basically say that they didn't curve the "paper" (papyrus, and hides like vellum),
and it proves they didn't say the Earth is sphere?
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." - Albert Einstein

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 01:43:51 AM »
So, you basically say that they didn't curve the "paper" (papyrus, and hides like vellum),
and it proves they didn't say the Earth is sphere?

Surely. They used the word of round meaning of circle.
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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2016, 06:36:50 AM »
Looking at the ancient maps and thinking about the progress in transportation, a serious need for something more accurate than (for most land travel) a flat paper map, or (for extensive trans-oceanic or trans-continental travel) a collection of a limited number of flat maps, did not exist until the last hundred years.  This does not say that the usual FE map (the one in the UN flag) would have been trustworthy south of the equator, but that most people wouldn't have been concerned about its distortions because their own need for a map of the world did not extend to such areas or distances.  Things are a bit more demanding now.

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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 07:45:34 AM »
So, if Earth is flat are all the other planets flat? If not why?

At least you've just learned how "smart" or how an imbecile a FE (Flat Earther) might be.
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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 07:00:20 PM »
what planets?you mean plane with a t on the end
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Re: Is this actually believed?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 07:07:58 PM »
So, if Earth is flat are all the other planets flat? If not why?

At least you've just learned how "smart" or how an imbecile a FE (Flat Earther) might be.
at least hes asking questions smartass,what have you been doing you clown ???
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