Project Blue Beam

As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 24, 2016, 09:30:58 AM

As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.

So... Basketball can be played by one person?

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 24, 2016, 09:30:58 AM

As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.

So... Basketball can be played by one person?

But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.

"Included among the men alleged to be our ancient Brothers include Euclid, Pythagoras, Moses, and even Jesus of Nazareth. Allusions to their inclusion is even reinforced in popular culture of the 20th century by Masons such as Walt Disney..."

"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 26, 2016, 12:12:02 PM

But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.

Wrong. I am saying to play basketball, or produce live music with a rock band, more than one person is required.
Akin to making music, or playing a team sport, Freemasonry requires more than one human to accomplish.
Kept in secrecy, Freemasonry is not merely the simple act of shaping stone, it is the craft of shaping much more.
Exemplified by their need for many ceremonies, secrecy, and ranks; What use would stone workers have for this?

Uncovering the whole truth is impossible, but seeking it reveals their true nature.
Purportedly, many figures from history are Freemasons, including Edwin Aldrin and many other Apollo astronauts.

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"Included among the men alleged to be our ancient Brothers include Euclid, Pythagoras, Moses, and even Jesus of Nazareth. Allusions to their inclusion is even reinforced in popular culture of the 20th century by Masons such as Walt Disney..."

"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/

"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 27, 2016, 04:13:58 PM

"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."

In this case, the craft and the organization are one in the same.

"It just doesn't work that way..."

So what is Freemasonry? Simply put, it's the world's oldest and largest fraternity.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

"...you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity"

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 08:44:05 AM

"It just doesn't work that way..."

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So what is Freemasonry? Simply put, it's the world's oldest and largest fraternity.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 08:44:05 AM

"...you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity"

I suggest you read the entire thread

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 27, 2016, 04:13:58 PM

"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."

In this case, the craft and the organization are one in the same.

The Freemasons originated to protect the secrets of the craft of masonry.

If you want to be a Freemason, you can petition a local lodge for membership.

You'll need to demonstrate good character and belief in some sort of Supreme Being.

Oh, and in almost all lodges, it's men only.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

Quote from: Mainframes on September 30, 2016, 10:40:04 AM

The Freemasons originated to protect the secrets of the craft of masonry.

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If you want to be a Freemason, you can petition a local lodge for membership.

You'll need to demonstrate good character and belief in some sort of Supreme Being.

Oh, and in almost all lodges, it's men only.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

Yeah... that does not sound like an organization for people who carve stones...

It's certainly grown beyond that.

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 11:15:07 AM

It's certainly grown beyond that.

Still not seeing anything nefarious.  And no idea where you got some of those images

A lot of astronauts are and were masons. Is there any reason for this?

http://freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/famous/masonic-astronauts/


More masons.

http://www.mastermason.com/lakeshorelodge307/famous_freemasons.htm

I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 01:53:01 PM

I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

Pete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.

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"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

This is the kind of person that gets to go to space?

Quote from: N30 on October 01, 2016, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 01:53:01 PM

I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

Pete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.

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"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

This is the kind of person that gets to go to space?

I would assume there is more to the story.  You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.
What is your point with this?

Quote from: Badxtoss on October 01, 2016, 01:27:17 PM

Quote from: N30 on October 01, 2016, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 01:53:01 PM

I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

Pete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.

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"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

This is the kind of person that gets to go to space?

I would assume there is more to the story.  You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.
What is your point with this?

There is more to the story...
After Mr. Conrad committed those acts, NASA found him, and actively persuaded him to be an astronaut.
Please, explain how any rational real reputable company would employ someone with that background.

How is this relevant to some alleged mega agency being able to project images when and where they want onto some fictional dome that covers the earth?

Quote from: Badxtoss on October 03, 2016, 05:33:50 AM

How is this relevant to some alleged mega agency being able to project images when and where they want onto some fictional dome that covers the earth?

It lends credit to how ridiculously slanderous NASA is, and obviously how unpredictable they are.

Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money. 

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on October 03, 2016, 03:19:42 PM

Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money. 

That's really interesting, I haven't looked into that much to be honest, I will now.

Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money. 

Just look at the war patterns...why do you think all the talk (in the states) is Iran. They have their own currency, they have almost 0 debt per capita,

Guess what their banks pay for interest in a basic savings account...15 percent.

Oh Mr. Crab....I know you HATE anything that challenges your world view.

As to your comments...I was speaking of central banks that control money flow into an economy (it's inflation rate etc)

, and charges interest to the government on every piece of currency provided. Also, keep in mind Iranian currency is still backed by oil and gold.

So since the IMF WTO g10 etc cannot screw with them, they do the next best thing...place sanctions, trade embargos, change currency values, and drop the price of crude oil (there currency is heavily based on crude). Attempting to destroy their economy and destroy their currency value which is working.

So yes big difference between yours and my monetary system and Iran's.

As for the debt issue....if you read very carefully you will see i said "almost" debt free. Nothing wrong with WANTED investments by a country.

I would say 800 dollars per capita vs 60,000 dollars per capita (America)or 140,000 per capita (UK)...800 dollars would be "almost" 0 debt.



The IMF is trying to bankrupt iran and then pull the usual trick used on countries previously out of their control, or destitute poor countries.

Broke??? No problem...here is a loan (ridiculous interest, impossible to meet the demands, especially on a country broke enough to be forced that route anyways)

Can't pay us back??? No problem...let us put one of our banks in control of your currency, we will keep you supplied of money, it will only cost you a small fee per piece of currency. We will back everything and your country shall become rich and prosperous 


Just imagine being able to disrupt/change an entire nation by simply adding or subtracting 5 percent. You want true power, there you have it.

Is it not a coincidence every major president or person or high ranking power warned against giving the banks that power? They learned from England where they fought to free themselves of.


Oh hell...I will keep rambling I am done.

If you find it ok that a private for profit conglomeration has power to print your money, charge you for it, and control your country.

I'm not really sure how you know what my world view is anyway, you just don't like people contradicting you, so throw that shit around.  Lazy debating

So why did you keep saying "world banks"?  And central banks attempt to control inflation indirectly through monetary policy, generally speaking.

The Bank of England is a non-profit organisation, like most central banks, and doesn't charge interest on currency creation.

Iran loses money on every barrel of oil it sells at the moment, and will do until oil prices rise substantially.  It does not have a gold backed currency.

Yes, this is just rambling - hint font size changes look a bit unhinged.

Agreed the USA and it's allies have been waging economic war on Iran for decades (it's hardly a secret) and, not surprisingly, Iran has been losing.  Hopefully things are starting to change and Iran can start to open up and flourish, it's got a lot of pontential - I'd really like to visit the place one day.

Keep in mind it's not just the USA that's been fucking them over - the country is ruled by a fascist theocracy and the horribly corrupt Revolutionary Guard who control pretty much every aspect of Iran's society.  A bunch of very wealthy clerics, army officers and bureaucrats pocket much of the wealth coming into the country - pretty much all of the oil is controlled by the Guard.  I'm not sure why you think this is such a great model for the Iranian people?