Flat Earthers, in your opinion, what are the holes in FET?

Good day comrades,

Yeah. What do you think is a weak place or hole in FET?

I'm a round earther who wonders: You don't really expect an answer, do you?  Why don't you go first?  In your opinion, what are the holes in RET?

Good question. Didn't think about that.

Probably the "hole" in RET is that being on Earth you cannot see its curvature. But there are many other facts that fit RET flawlessly. Can you think of another hole in RET?

And yes I do believe they will answer. They must be more open minded than me. So it is interesting to see what problems they see.

I'm a round earther who wonders: You don't really expect an answer, do you?  Why don't you go first?  In your opinion, what are the holes in RET?

Well obviously dark matter. It's a placeholder for our flawed understanding of how galaxies stay together.

Your turn.

I'm not a FE-er.  I think the big hole is that (1) nobody has found, really found and shown to us, the edge - and it should be in any direction if you go far enough, and (2) nobody has come up with a convincing map, still rallying around a map going back about 130 years (and modeled on a much much old map).

I'm not a FE-er.  I think the big hole is that (1) nobody has found, really found and shown to us, the edge - and it should be in any direction if you go far enough, and (2) nobody has come up with a convincing map, still rallying around a map going back about 130 years (and modeled on a much much old map).

Depends on which fe model you run with. Infinite plane or det wouldn't have an edge.

Current hole in RE: We don't know what causes gravity. We know exactly how it works, but not what makes it work.

Current hole in RE: We don't know what causes gravity. We know exactly how it works, but not what makes it work.

It's not really a hole in RET. After all a round earth is a 100% proven fact. The fact that we dont know what causes gravity does not alter that in any way. You dont have to fully understand something to be able to use it, predict it and understand its effects such as we do with gravity. And the same with Dark Matter. It is not a hole in RET at all since it applies at the galactic level and still may be understandable using a more advanced understanding of gravity at some point in the future.

My point is that a round-earth is not a theory but an established fact which cannot be disputed.

One of the biggest holes in so-called "FET":
Quote : " There is no horizon but is an indistinct blur which fades away at some infinite or unknown distance."

IMHO all of these "holes" are just things as they would have to be IF the earth WAS a flat disc. But that is where the "holes" come in : The earth  IS  NOT a flat disc.

Quote from: Sam Hill on August 17, 2016, 05:11:46 PM

I'm a round earther who wonders: You don't really expect an answer, do you?  Why don't you go first?  In your opinion, what are the holes in RET?

Well obviously dark matter. It's a placeholder for our flawed understanding of how galaxies stay together.

Your turn.

This.

Note they say 'from the four corners of the world'? What has four corners? Something flat. Something like a rectangle. Now, granted, its' a circle, but you can take on faith that it it can be segregated into corners.

If you are going to put so much stock in the term "four corners of the world" you can't immediately back away from it and try to "segregate it into corners", whatever that means.  If the world has corners, then go find them.

Quote from: neutrino on August 17, 2016, 05:07:28 PM

Good day comrades,

Yeah. What do you think is a weak place or hole in FET?

Can't see any. FE has been proved beyond all doubt whereas RE has no proof whatsoever. Now, what most people have not picked up on is that this has been acknowledged by the media many times. Note they say 'from the four corners of the world'? What has four corners? Something flat. Something like a rectangle. Now, granted, its' a circle, but you can take on faith that it it can be segregated into corners.

Once again, absolute proof that people are in on this conspiracy and have been all along.

Welcome to the forum. I haven't seen you in the debate section of the forum but there's some very important questions in there which have been posed of the FE models, and at the moment none of them have any answers. You're welcome to try and offer solutions to these problems but until then, all of the FE models are debunked. So far I'm yet to see anything which debunks the RE model.

Oh, my intention was to get some real answers from real FE-ers.

Oh, my intention was to get some real answers from real FE-ers.

Well, technically you got one from Tombert Williams but he's an obvious troll so that doesn't count.

Yes, you are right. I was hoping Ski maybe will post his thoughts.

I'm gonna say the circumpolar stars, and distances are the biggest issues FET needs to tackle.

I'm gonna say the circumpolar stars, and distances are the biggest issues FET needs to tackle.

Full credit for being honest

All right, the usual FE notion requires an edge.  The notion of an "infinite plane" - although somewhat baffling in relation to celestial events - would indicate land (habitable? arable? inhabited? What sort of people/animals/flora/underground resources?) and why hasn't anyone any found it (and why hasn't anyone from there found us)? That land could solve a lot of our problems, avert wars and famines and provide water and maybe fuel.  The notion of a dome is also intriguing - it requires some new explanations for meteorites and weather patterns - but someone's got to bang up to the glass (or whatever it's made of) and tell us where the wall is - and it should be in every direction if you go far enough.

Accurately cataloging a map.

I'm gonna say the circumpolar stars, and distances are the biggest issues FET needs to tackle.

You had better get your penguins to eat them! Solved.

Accurately cataloging a map.

You mean to tell me that map there above your name is inaccurate? Surprising.

What's more surprising is the fact that you would admit there are any flaws at all in UA. For instance you use celestial gravity to answer observable phenomena, yet for some reason the Earth does not exhibit similar gravity.

The fact that we cannot detect this universal accelerator should also be a hole.

Guys, please, I'm trying my best to follow Jane's approach.

Cowgirl, Cartog and Ski thank you for your honest answers!

Regarding map, I tried to develop method to map the Plane in the thread nearby, this post: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66391.msg1811737#msg1811737

Would it work in your opinion?

Cartog, since the conditions beyond the wall are quite "wild" I suppose no life is there. The farther you go South the colder it is.