Lets talk about the OBVIOUS Apollo 17 Photoshopped Picture of Earth from Moon

Discuss.

It's obvious, game over.

Oh. I can clear this up. What you're seeing is a jpeg compression artifact. Do this in Ms paint. Make a black background. Then put some text on it. Save it as a jpeg and you'll see the same effect.

If it's available try downloading a version of it with a lossless compression format.

Hope that helps.

You can clearly see a box around the "Earth" because it was cut and pasted in.

yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

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yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

Looks like someone is just accepting what they are told, because it makes them fill comfortable.

Since it looks like you do not want to educate yourself by doing a simple search the net for information I will do it for you.

When performing block-based coding for quantization, as in JPEG-compressed images, several types of artifacts can appear.

Ringing
Contouring
Posterizing
Staircase noise (aliasing) along curving edges
Blockiness in "busy" regions (block boundary artifacts, sometimes called macroblocking, quilting, or checkerboarding)

Simple explanation is when the picture is compressed an algorithms is used.

So simple to find the information about the compression artifacts.

That is why if you want to analyze photos you do not use one that has been compressed.

Find a picture that has not been compressed.

yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

Here is a link to the official picture:
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/images/296636main_1241_full_full.jpg

Here is the Picture:


When they first released this picture, they had no idea about the digital photo manipulating software that would be available to the public in the 2000s.

ANYONE CAN DO THIS:



Open the picture in Photoshop or Gimp (free) and adjust the Levels.

You can clearly see a box around the "Earth" because it was cut and pasted in.

Here is a picture of an eclipsed Moon and some planets:
http://astrobulletin.amnh.org/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/amnh/images/our-research/hayden-planetarium2/blog-images/moon-venus-and-jupiter-in-conjunction/1892911-1-eng-US/moon-venus-and-jupiter-in-conjunction.jpg



I chose this picture for comparison because the moon is not as bright.

This is what it looks like when not edited with a pasted in moon/earth:


Discuss.

Busted.  NEXT!

yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

Drunken rage...

A logical, easy explanation spelled out with actual pictures and evidence.

Quote from: MrDebunk on August 13, 2016, 12:59:39 AM

A logical, easy explanation spelled out with actual pictures and evidence.

You actually took a minute to think something out, look at it rationally, then perform an un biased experiment. You have just done more work than any flat earther has ever done on the entire internet. You are a hard working fellow.

Thanks, I'm just a guy who's into space and the things that go there, as well as a guy who explains such things to people that can't really grasp it and probably won't.

I'm not really dedicated to this.

Quote from: geodesic on August 13, 2016, 12:15:44 AM

Busted.  NEXT!

Quote from: iWitness on August 12, 2016, 10:04:40 PM

yAwn, COME ON. There is NO WAY a jpg would add a PERFECT BOX around a circle.

As always....the epitome of intelligence I always see from flat earthers. I am seriously suspecting that this movement and people like this, could be paid shills themselves. They accuse all who show even the mildest form of critical thinking skills or question them with even the most easily proven evidence a shill. Just like the cheater always accusing he other person, when they themselves are the culprit. Maybe Legba is on to something, but actually attacking the wrong people.

Just a paid disinformation team to say the absolute dumbest absurd things humanely possible, making the witch hunts centuries ago look small in comparison. So then, when someone is actually on to something that disagrees with a mainstream view, the media can just say "oh they are just one of those conspiracy theorist, crazy and mentally deficient"..then can point to people like scepti, iwitness, jroa, Hoppy, heiwa, Legba... the list goes on.

With this ammo it then gives the media easy means to have any truly educated people with solid evidence questioning a mainstream view the easy smoking gun to dismiss them into this group or idiots.

 Even with a doctorate and masters, success, proven intelligence, thriving business, combination of experiences most people have not experienced and so forth..basically everything in america that would deam you "someone to listen to" or a success. And actually people in america listen to others whom have much fewer reasons to be heard. But even with all these things, as soon as I step outside the mainstream safety net in views, no matter what evidence, most of the time people just shut down. Sure a few might listen, but most will just label you as a "conspiracy theorist nut job", all of the reasons that you should be heard disappear. Though they would have been wide eared if you stayed in the mainstream.

There are others whom have many more reasons and qualifications to be heard than I do...yet they will get the same treatment.

A big part of this I blame on idiots like I described above. So thank y'all.....

Quote from: crutonius on August 13, 2016, 12:44:21 AM

Drunken rage...

Ha ha ha!!! Please do not apologize, I say keep going lol. As a matter of fact I will take a shot right now!! You can only be nice so long here until you want to just slap someone.

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I take offense to that. I'm what you call a conspiracy theorist and I'm open minded. Of course I don't want to derail the thread. BTW, I take offense but I'm not mad or anything.

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You are quite clearly not the most open minded. Your mind has been mainly closed by your faith. Just because you do not believe in a flat earth, dose not make you open minded. you may be more open minded than some, who knows for sure.

I'm open minded. You prove that a conspiracy theory is false and I'll accept it. I usually assume the incident happened the way they say it happened until I dig deeper. When you dig you always find inconstancy.

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What are your sources when you "dig" deeper?

Measure your conspiracy theories against this, and be honest. how many stand up to testing?

1. Proof of the conspiracy supposedly emerges from a pattern of “connecting the dots” between events that need not be causally connected. When no evidence supports these connections except the allegation of the conspiracy, or when the evidence fits equally
well to other causal connections (or randomness) the conspiracy theory is likely false.

2. The agents behind the pattern of the conspiracy would need nearly superhuman power ot technology beyond what is commonly available to pull it off. Most of the time in most circumstances, people are not nearly so powerful as we think they are.

3. The conspiracy is complex and its successful completion demands a large number of elements.

4. The conspiracy involves large numbers of people who would all need to keep silent about their secrets.

5. The conspiracy encompasses some grandiose ambition for control over a nation, economy or political system. If it suggests world domination, it’s probably false. ( what world government is going to just roll over to another?).

6.The conspiracy theory ratchets up from small events that might be true to much larger events that have much lower
probabilities of being true.

7. The conspiracy theory assigns portentous and sinister meanings to what are most likely random and insignificant
events.

8.The theory tends to commingle facts and speculations without distinguishing between the two and without assigning
degrees of probability or of fact.

9.The theorist is extremely and indiscriminately suspicious of any and all government agencies or private organizations.

10.The conspiracy theorist refuses to consider alternative explanations, rejecting all  evidence for his theory and blatantly seeking only confirmatory evidence.

I would start off with 9/11. What I suggest is you watch "9/11 in plane sight". And no, that isn't a misprint, you spell it the way you see it. Also I would also check out engineers for 9/11 truth.

Woah.... I have never claimed that nobody conspires against us.
There is probably small amounts of truth in many conspiracy theories, trouble is people go mad and end up way off the mark. These people often end up looking paranoid and look insane. These people also usually end up off down the rabbit hole, seeking bigger and bigger conspiracy theories. They often then find themselves locked in a box of closed mindedness and do not even know it.

I have seen that Video.
I will not just accept another individuals view on things, unconditionally. I watched it full of skepticism and gave the subject much thought.

I can categorically tell you that in my opinion. The situation was real, a terror attack. however the towers and building 7 was more likely leveled on purpose to cover the fact they new it was coming and failed to stop it or did not want to stop it, to justify a war? maybe... also for insurance reasons no doubt. The pentagon incident has a fishy smell. something dose not add up. I will refrain from spouting my reasons online.

Never trust YouTube, not even 50% unless you can verify the credibility of the content. You have to learn to whittle fact from fiction, sort the wheat from the chaff. Your opinion on my brother in law's group also proves the same. You would rather take somebody who is trying to sell a story's word over logical, intellectual reasoning and my brother in laws testimony.

Use the guide I posted and see what stacks up.

When they first released this picture, they had no idea about the digital photo manipulating software that would be available to the public in the 2000s.

Photo manipulation dates back to some of the earliest photographs captured on glass and tin plates during the 19th Century. The practice began not long after the creation of the first photograph (1825)

An early example of tampering was in the early 1860s, when a photo of Abraham Lincoln was altered using the body from a portrait of John C. Calhoun and the head of Lincoln from a famous seated portrait by Mathew Brady – the same portrait which was the basis for the original Lincoln Five-dollar bill.

Some photo manipulations are considered skillful artwork while others are frowned upon as unethical practices, especially when used to deceive the public, such as that used for political propaganda, or to make a product or person look better.

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Photo manipulation dates back to some of the earliest photographs captured on glass and tin plates during the 19th Century. The practice began not long after the creation of the first photograph (1825)

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An early example of tampering was in the early 1860s, when a photo of Abraham Lincoln was altered using the body from a portrait of John C. Calhoun and the head of Lincoln from a famous seated portrait by Mathew Brady – the same portrait which was the basis for the original Lincoln Five-dollar bill.

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Some photo manipulations are considered skillful artwork while others are frowned upon as unethical practices, especially when used to deceive the public, such as that used for political propaganda, or to make a product or person look better.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_manipulation