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Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.

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markjo

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2016, 11:30:59 AM »
^Zero citations; Zero science.
You're right.  Your science blog guy never cited the NASA worksheet that he claimed was "dead wrong". 

He also never said that rockets can't work in a vacuum.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Papa Legba

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2016, 01:36:55 PM »
NO U!!!

lol what a retard.

A gas does no work in a vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Power=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

As for NASA's 'rokkit thrust ekwashun'; well of course a gas exits a shpayze-rokkit quickly.

And, as the ambient pressure lessens to zero it will leave even faster - due to free expansion, idiot shills.

But in a zero-pressure vacuum it will produce zero force as it does so; the Laws of Physics say so.

Lie a bit more about it eh?

It's your job:

http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/92224/could-you-recognize-a-shill-in-a-forum-if-you-came-up-against-himher

http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/howies-black-hat-lab-tools.35994/

Although I'm sure you call yourself 'internet marketers' instead of 'shills'...

And of course are not paid directly by the outfits you shill for.

It's still technically illegal though...

Making you all criminals.

lol.

Oh & p.s. NASA Lie about Newton's 3rd Law too:

https://physicsparsimony.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/confusion-regarding-newtons-third-law-of-motion/

So don't start that shit again, eh Liars?
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deadsirius

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2016, 01:51:13 PM »
"Shills"


So hold on a second...you mean I can get PAID to say obvious things on this site?  Is everyone who believes in a round earth getting paid by NASA?

I guess that explains what they're doing with all the money they save by "not actually going into space"
Suffering from a martyr complex...so you don't have to

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Papa Legba

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2016, 01:57:47 PM »
^Insta-shill sock-puppet is ignored.

A gas does no work in a vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Power=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

As for NASA's 'rokkit thrust ekwashun'; well of course a gas exits a shpayze-rokkit quickly.

And, as the ambient pressure lessens to zero it will leave even faster - due to free expansion, idiot shills.

But in a zero-pressure vacuum it will produce zero force as it does so; the Laws of Physics say so.

Lie a bit more about it eh?

It's your job:

http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/92224/could-you-recognize-a-shill-in-a-forum-if-you-came-up-against-himher

http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/howies-black-hat-lab-tools.35994/

Although I'm sure you call yourself 'internet marketers' instead of 'shills'...

And of course are not paid directly by the outfits you shill for.

It's still technically illegal though...

Making you all criminals.

lol.

Oh & p.s. NASA Lie about Newton's 3rd Law too:

https://physicsparsimony.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/confusion-regarding-newtons-third-law-of-motion/

So don't start that shit again, eh Liars?
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

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markjo

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2016, 03:05:56 PM »
Looks like Papa Legba is stuck in a loop again.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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SpJunk

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2016, 03:19:09 PM »
Looks like Papa Legba is stuck in a loop again.

Old scratched vinyl records tend to jump.
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." - Albert Einstein

"Your lack of simplicity is main reason why not many people would bother to try to understand you." - S.M.

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2016, 02:17:14 PM »
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!

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rabinoz

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #67 on: August 10, 2016, 02:39:00 PM »
Looks like Papa Legba is stuck in a loop again.
No reaction?
Looks like Papa Legba is on vacation again! 

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markjo

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #68 on: August 10, 2016, 04:57:49 PM »
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.
What's worse is that Papa Legba isn't even a flat earther.  He's just an angry conspiracy theorist.  Or, at least he plays one on this site.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #69 on: August 11, 2016, 09:02:21 AM »
Rockets do work in a vacuum, perhaps even more efficiently than in atmosphere.
It is the very simple Newtonian law of equal and opposite reaction.

The chemical blast forces flames in one direction, this causes an equal and opposite reaction of forcing the rocket in the opposite direction.

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2016, 03:19:45 AM »
Papa claims his brain works.

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neutrino

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2016, 04:01:55 PM »
If Papa have brains => The Earth is Flat. ;D
FET is religion. No evidence will convince a FE-er. It would be easier to convince Muslims they are wrong.

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2016, 01:56:10 AM »
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!

And the implication is that IQ(monkey)>IQ(FEer)

sounds about right.  Certainly the evidence supports it.

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rabinoz

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2016, 02:40:58 AM »
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!

And the implication is that IQ(monkey)>IQ(FEer)

sounds about right.  Certainly the evidence supports it.
I am afraid we can't blame the Flat Earther's for Papa Legba.

He claims he is not Flat Earther. Besides he seems to be "on vacation". As far as I can see he's simply "off the planet"!

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2016, 02:56:54 AM »
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!

And the implication is that IQ(monkey)>IQ(FEer)

sounds about right.  Certainly the evidence supports it.
I am afraid we can't blame the Flat Earther's for Papa Legba.

He claims he is not Flat Earther. Besides he seems to be "on vacation". As far as I can see he's simply "off the planet"!

And we all know where he is having his vacation. It comes with soft music, happy-drugs and doors that lock on the outside.

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rabinoz

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2016, 03:04:09 AM »
And we all know where he is having his vacation. It comes with soft music, happy-drugs and doors that lock on the outside.
"No comment" was the loud reply.

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Omega

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2016, 01:18:58 AM »
A Gas does no Work in a Vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

Etc, etc, etc; undeniable scientific FACT.

Ergo a GAS-powered rocket cannot possibly create MOTION in a Vacuum.

Off you go idiotic anti-science paid liar scumbags...

Exercise your Democratic Rights to Lie like your life depends on it!

Find an office chair on wheels. One that rolls very easily. Sit in that chair without your feet touching the ground. Get at phone book or something similar. Throw the book. You will move backwards. The object has inertia and you push yourself off against the object. This is the same way rockets propel themselves. They push themselves against the gas that that is expelled with great force.

The gas is not using any medium as a 'grip', as you seem to think. The rocket is pushing itself against the gas, so to speak.
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2016, 02:04:03 AM »
A Gas does no Work in a Vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

Etc, etc, etc; undeniable scientific FACT.

Ergo a GAS-powered rocket cannot possibly create MOTION in a Vacuum.

Off you go idiotic anti-science paid liar scumbags...

Exercise your Democratic Rights to Lie like your life depends on it!

Find an office chair on wheels. One that rolls very easily. Sit in that chair without your feet touching the ground. Get at phone book or something similar. Throw the book. You will move backwards. The object has inertia and you push yourself off against the object. This is the same way rockets propel themselves. They push themselves against the gas that that is expelled with great force.

The gas is not using any medium as a 'grip', as you seem to think. The rocket is pushing itself against the gas, so to speak.

He has zero chance of understanding that. While it is simple and easily proven, the likes of papalunatic have no hope of avoiding the complication of having no functioning brain matter.

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SpJunk

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2016, 06:57:41 AM »
Rockets do work in a vacuum, perhaps even more efficiently than in atmosphere.
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Ofcourse.

In atmosphere the gas blast was dampened by atmospheric pressure at the aperture.
In vacuum the gas blast is free to blow with full power (exiting speed).

Not to mention the air drag on rocket...
« Last Edit: August 22, 2016, 06:59:12 AM by SpJunk »
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." - Albert Einstein

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Papa Legba

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2016, 12:00:37 PM »
So; we have learned that yes, shills do indeed claim rockets work in a vacuum.

Even though such a claim would mean they violate the concept of Conservation of Energy.

Which is the 1st Law of Thermodynamics btw...

Not the 1st Theory of Thermodynamics; the 1st Law.

And violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics is the Physics equivalent of Rape, Murder & selling 10kg of heroin to a minor, or suchlike heinous depravity...

SERIOUS SHIT in other words.

However, as I have provided solid evidence elsewhere that this forum, & the internet as a whole, is run by military-industrial criminals, expect a riot of mad bullshit disinfo-spam, plus a forum slide, to attempt to hide the crimes I have so easily exposed using simple science & logic.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2016, 08:58:31 AM by Jack »
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hoppy

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2016, 12:07:11 PM »
LEGBA FOR MOD!!!!!
God is real.                                         
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9665708/Flat-Earth-Bible-02-of-10-The-Flat-Earth

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2016, 12:08:30 PM »
Papa knows a gun will work in space, but he told me it is not the correct explanation for rocket power

 ;D

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sokarul

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2016, 12:11:25 PM »
Lol

Papa is such an idiot.

Lol

ANNIHILATOR OF  SHIFTER

It's no slur if it's fact.

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Bullwinkle

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2016, 12:12:47 PM »
DO NOT operate a rocket in a vacuum!


Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2016, 12:22:47 PM »
Papa - fail
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignorance or stupidity.

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2016, 12:29:19 PM »
If people here want a laugh you can look at Sceptimatic and Papa self destructing in this thread where I explain how a rocket recoils using a gun as an example.

These two clowns both know the gun explains rocket propulsion

http://serendipitous.boards.net/thread/3/rocket-propulsion-vacuum?page=5


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markjo

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2016, 12:46:35 PM »
Papa Legba is a voodou rocket scientician.  Prove me wrong.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Papa Legba

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2016, 12:50:23 PM »
Prove me wrong.

Already have, repeatedly.

Plus I know the name you post under at cluesforum, dickhead...

And it's a surprising one...

lol.

These two clowns both know the gun explains rocket propulsion

Incorrect; I ruined that shit years ago.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64713.0

Plus lol at you freaks proving this true as well:

However, as I have provided solid evidence elsewhere that this forum, & the internet as a whole, is run by military-industrial criminals, expect a riot of mad bullshit disinfo-spam, plus a forum slide, to attempt to hide the crimes I have so easily exposed using simple science & logic.

How's it feel having a gay children's entertainer & total fraud of a human as an avatar btw?

Pretty shit I'd imagine...

But I'm not a shill so that's just a guess.

Toodle-pip, Retards!
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2016, 12:55:14 PM »
Seeing Papa be wrong is just so satisfying.
I wonder how obnoxious I can make my signature?
Please give me ideas.

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Papa Legba

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2016, 01:01:03 PM »
Seeing Papa be wrong is just so satisfying.

Seeing shills lying is just about all the satisfaction I ever get on this forum...

WORK that persona management software, bitch!

WORK IT!!!
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