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Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.

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markjo

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2016, 11:30:59 AM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
^Zero citations; Zero science.
You're right.  Your science blog guy never cited the NASA worksheet that he claimed was "dead wrong". 

He also never said that rockets can't work in a vacuum.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2016, 01:36:55 PM »
Quote from: markjo on August 09, 2016, 11:30:59 AM
NO U!!!

lol what a retard.

A gas does no work in a vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Power=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

As for NASA's 'rokkit thrust ekwashun'; well of course a gas exits a shpayze-rokkit quickly.

And, as the ambient pressure lessens to zero it will leave even faster - due to free expansion, idiot shills.

But in a zero-pressure vacuum it will produce zero force as it does so; the Laws of Physics say so.

Lie a bit more about it eh?

It's your job:

http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/92224/could-you-recognize-a-shill-in-a-forum-if-you-came-up-against-himher

http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/howies-black-hat-lab-tools.35994/

Although I'm sure you call yourself 'internet marketers' instead of 'shills'...

And of course are not paid directly by the outfits you shill for.

It's still technically illegal though...

Making you all criminals.

lol.

Oh & p.s. NASA Lie about Newton's 3rd Law too:

https://physicsparsimony.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/confusion-regarding-newtons-third-law-of-motion/

So don't start that shit again, eh Liars?
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2016, 01:51:13 PM »
"Shills"


So hold on a second...you mean I can get PAID to say obvious things on this site?  Is everyone who believes in a round earth getting paid by NASA?

I guess that explains what they're doing with all the money they save by "not actually going into space"
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2016, 01:57:47 PM »
^Insta-shill sock-puppet is ignored.

A gas does no work in a vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Power=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

As for NASA's 'rokkit thrust ekwashun'; well of course a gas exits a shpayze-rokkit quickly.

And, as the ambient pressure lessens to zero it will leave even faster - due to free expansion, idiot shills.

But in a zero-pressure vacuum it will produce zero force as it does so; the Laws of Physics say so.

Lie a bit more about it eh?

It's your job:

http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/92224/could-you-recognize-a-shill-in-a-forum-if-you-came-up-against-himher

http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/howies-black-hat-lab-tools.35994/

Although I'm sure you call yourself 'internet marketers' instead of 'shills'...

And of course are not paid directly by the outfits you shill for.

It's still technically illegal though...

Making you all criminals.

lol.

Oh & p.s. NASA Lie about Newton's 3rd Law too:

https://physicsparsimony.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/confusion-regarding-newtons-third-law-of-motion/

So don't start that shit again, eh Liars?
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2016, 03:05:56 PM »
Looks like Papa Legba is stuck in a loop again.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2016, 03:19:09 PM »
Quote from: markjo on August 09, 2016, 03:05:56 PM
Looks like Papa Legba is stuck in a loop again.

Old scratched vinyl records tend to jump.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2016, 02:17:14 PM »
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #67 on: August 10, 2016, 02:39:00 PM »
Quote from: markjo on August 09, 2016, 03:05:56 PM
Looks like Papa Legba is stuck in a loop again.
No reaction?
Looks like Papa Legba is on vacation again! 
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #68 on: August 10, 2016, 04:57:49 PM »
Quote from: ScifiAgent on August 10, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.
What's worse is that Papa Legba isn't even a flat earther.  He's just an angry conspiracy theorist.  Or, at least he plays one on this site.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #69 on: August 11, 2016, 09:02:21 AM »
Rockets do work in a vacuum, perhaps even more efficiently than in atmosphere.
It is the very simple Newtonian law of equal and opposite reaction.

The chemical blast forces flames in one direction, this causes an equal and opposite reaction of forcing the rocket in the opposite direction.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2016, 03:19:45 AM »
Papa claims his brain works.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2016, 04:01:55 PM »
If Papa have brains => The Earth is Flat. ;D
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2016, 01:56:10 AM »
Quote from: ScifiAgent on August 10, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!

And the implication is that IQ(monkey)>IQ(FEer)

sounds about right.  Certainly the evidence supports it.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2016, 02:40:58 AM »
Quote from: fliggs on August 20, 2016, 01:56:10 AM
Quote from: ScifiAgent on August 10, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!

And the implication is that IQ(monkey)>IQ(FEer)

sounds about right.  Certainly the evidence supports it.
I am afraid we can't blame the Flat Earther's for Papa Legba.

He claims he is not Flat Earther. Besides he seems to be "on vacation". As far as I can see he's simply "off the planet"!
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fliggs

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2016, 02:56:54 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on August 20, 2016, 02:40:58 AM
Quote from: fliggs on August 20, 2016, 01:56:10 AM
Quote from: ScifiAgent on August 10, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Explaining grade 6 physics to a monkey is almost impossible.
Explaining grade 6 physics to a flat earther is totally impossible.

Stop trying to convince people who want to believe something that their believes are retarded, thats just cruel!

And the implication is that IQ(monkey)>IQ(FEer)

sounds about right.  Certainly the evidence supports it.
I am afraid we can't blame the Flat Earther's for Papa Legba.

He claims he is not Flat Earther. Besides he seems to be "on vacation". As far as I can see he's simply "off the planet"!

And we all know where he is having his vacation. It comes with soft music, happy-drugs and doors that lock on the outside.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2016, 03:04:09 AM »
Quote from: fliggs on August 21, 2016, 02:56:54 AM
And we all know where he is having his vacation. It comes with soft music, happy-drugs and doors that lock on the outside.
"No comment" was the loud reply.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2016, 01:18:58 AM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on August 06, 2016, 04:25:15 PM
A Gas does no Work in a Vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

Etc, etc, etc; undeniable scientific FACT.

Ergo a GAS-powered rocket cannot possibly create MOTION in a Vacuum.

Off you go idiotic anti-science paid liar scumbags...

Exercise your Democratic Rights to Lie like your life depends on it!

Find an office chair on wheels. One that rolls very easily. Sit in that chair without your feet touching the ground. Get at phone book or something similar. Throw the book. You will move backwards. The object has inertia and you push yourself off against the object. This is the same way rockets propel themselves. They push themselves against the gas that that is expelled with great force.

The gas is not using any medium as a 'grip', as you seem to think. The rocket is pushing itself against the gas, so to speak.
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fliggs

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2016, 02:04:03 AM »
Quote from: Omega on August 22, 2016, 01:18:58 AM
Quote from: Papa Legba on August 06, 2016, 04:25:15 PM
A Gas does no Work in a Vacuum:

http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node33.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150043a002
http://www.etomica.org/app/modules/sites/JouleThomson/Background2.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_expansion

No Work=no Force=no Motion:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/work.html
https://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/EnergyBasics/EnergyBasics.htm
http://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/work_energy_power.htm

Etc, etc, etc; undeniable scientific FACT.

Ergo a GAS-powered rocket cannot possibly create MOTION in a Vacuum.

Off you go idiotic anti-science paid liar scumbags...

Exercise your Democratic Rights to Lie like your life depends on it!

Find an office chair on wheels. One that rolls very easily. Sit in that chair without your feet touching the ground. Get at phone book or something similar. Throw the book. You will move backwards. The object has inertia and you push yourself off against the object. This is the same way rockets propel themselves. They push themselves against the gas that that is expelled with great force.

The gas is not using any medium as a 'grip', as you seem to think. The rocket is pushing itself against the gas, so to speak.

He has zero chance of understanding that. While it is simple and easily proven, the likes of papalunatic have no hope of avoiding the complication of having no functioning brain matter.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2016, 06:57:41 AM »
Quote from: Cartog on August 11, 2016, 09:02:21 AM
Rockets do work in a vacuum, perhaps even more efficiently than in atmosphere.
...

Ofcourse.

In atmosphere the gas blast was dampened by atmospheric pressure at the aperture.
In vacuum the gas blast is free to blow with full power (exiting speed).

Not to mention the air drag on rocket...
« Last Edit: August 22, 2016, 06:59:12 AM by SpJunk »
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2016, 12:00:37 PM »
So; we have learned that yes, shills do indeed claim rockets work in a vacuum.

Even though such a claim would mean they violate the concept of Conservation of Energy.

Which is the 1st Law of Thermodynamics btw...

Not the 1st Theory of Thermodynamics; the 1st Law.

And violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics is the Physics equivalent of Rape, Murder & selling 10kg of heroin to a minor, or suchlike heinous depravity...

SERIOUS SHIT in other words.

However, as I have provided solid evidence elsewhere that this forum, & the internet as a whole, is run by military-industrial criminals, expect a riot of mad bullshit disinfo-spam, plus a forum slide, to attempt to hide the crimes I have so easily exposed using simple science & logic.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2016, 08:58:31 AM by Jack »
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2016, 12:07:11 PM »
LEGBA FOR MOD!!!!!
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2016, 12:08:30 PM »
Papa knows a gun will work in space, but he told me it is not the correct explanation for rocket power

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2016, 12:11:25 PM »
Lol

Papa is such an idiot.

Lol

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2016, 12:12:47 PM »
DO NOT operate a rocket in a vacuum!

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2016, 12:22:47 PM »
Papa - fail
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Aliveandkicking

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2016, 12:29:19 PM »
If people here want a laugh you can look at Sceptimatic and Papa self destructing in this thread where I explain how a rocket recoils using a gun as an example.

These two clowns both know the gun explains rocket propulsion

http://serendipitous.boards.net/thread/3/rocket-propulsion-vacuum?page=5

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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2016, 12:46:35 PM »
Papa Legba is a voodou rocket scientician.  Prove me wrong.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2016, 12:50:23 PM »
Quote from: markjo on September 14, 2016, 12:46:35 PM
Prove me wrong.

Already have, repeatedly.

Plus I know the name you post under at cluesforum, dickhead...

And it's a surprising one...

lol.

Quote from: Aliveandkicking on September 14, 2016, 12:29:19 PM
These two clowns both know the gun explains rocket propulsion

Incorrect; I ruined that shit years ago.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64713.0

Plus lol at you freaks proving this true as well:

Quote from: Papa Legba on September 14, 2016, 12:00:37 PM
However, as I have provided solid evidence elsewhere that this forum, & the internet as a whole, is run by military-industrial criminals, expect a riot of mad bullshit disinfo-spam, plus a forum slide, to attempt to hide the crimes I have so easily exposed using simple science & logic.

How's it feel having a gay children's entertainer & total fraud of a human as an avatar btw?

Pretty shit I'd imagine...

But I'm not a shill so that's just a guess.

Toodle-pip, Retards!
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2016, 12:55:14 PM »
Seeing Papa be wrong is just so satisfying.
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Re: Shills claim rockets work in a vacuum.
« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2016, 01:01:03 PM »
Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 14, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
Seeing Papa be wrong is just so satisfying.

Seeing shills lying is just about all the satisfaction I ever get on this forum...

WORK that persona management software, bitch!

WORK IT!!!
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