You keep bringing up this idea of extremely low pressures by continually telling me how difficult it is to get the last molecules from the pump.
Big deal.
I am wanting to know why a stronger pump is required to create a vacuum of 0.001bar in a larger chamber, where a little pump can easily create a vacuum of 0.001bar and you have said totally nothing to me that supports the idea large pumps are needed to create low pressures in large chambers.
Well when your questions are about the differences in pressures, like the one I quoted in my last post, of course I need to talk about what low pressures are under this model. You can't brush off as 'big deal' something that is fundamental to understanding, well, anything about the model. I need to bring it up because it's the answer to the question you ask. You seem to be relying on the idea that your questions are unanswerable and ignoring everything anyone says, and it's both tedious and ridiculous.
I have answered that before. The size of the chamber has a lot of effects: you've got the fact that a pump only has a limited range of effect, you've got the cumulative effect of molecules not expelled via the exhaust...
Best case scenario for you is that a smaller pump just needs to run for a substantially longer time. I'm not entirely sure that'd do it, but it seems to basically be in line with what Scepti said regardless, unless you're being absurdly pedantic and expecting someone to list every caveat and common-sense commonality (and frankly hypocritical given how unclear a lot of your questions have been).
>>you've got the fact that a pump only has a limited range of effect
It is not a fact at all if the pump runs longer
>>The size of the chamber has a lot of effects:
What effect can it have if the pump runs longer?
>>you've got the cumulative effect of molecules not expelled via the exhaust...
All molecules want to expand. How can we have cumulative effects if the model forbids a vacuum forming between the pump and the molecules? How many more times have I got to point this out before you address what I am asking you??
>>Best case scenario for you is that a smaller pump just needs to run for a substantially longer time
Fine. That is what we expect to happen where the model gives no reason for anything else.
>>I'm not entirely sure that'd do it, but it seems to basically be in line with what Scepti
It is not in line. He claims there is something weird happening in a large container that has 'more atmospheric pressure' whatever that means and for some reason this is causing some force that is trying to reverse the pump.
>>unless you're being absurdly pedantic and expecting someone to list every caveat and common-sense commonality (and frankly hypocritical given how unclear a lot of your questions have been).
Baloney. From the beginning you have resisted me every step of the way where you began with the idea the pump works by pushing on the air and then eventually you were agreeing with what I was trying to get you to agree on in the first few encounters.
You are still resisting me.
But why?? It seems you cannot put together your own words to make a coherent explanation of this model. You can though manage to put in an insult towards me in pretty well every post you make.
look at this from days ago
>>Another key point is that according to Scepti 'pull' forces are impossible: everything's a push.
So no matter what speed the pump moves the molecules are pushing on the pump!
Just too much. It is much easier to create low pressure in this model than in the standard model.
