Is the moon flat or spherical?

I think the reason we never see the other side of the moon is because the moon points to the north pole just like a compass always points to the north pole.

Nice idea, but what if you in northern hemisphere? North from equator? The moon going in circles above equator, so you would see the other side. Especially from North Pole.

Guys, this all makes no sense. In FET the fact that we see only one side of moon is UNEXPLAINABLE as tons of other things. It's a one of thousands of reasons why FET introduces much more difficulties instead of explaining things, while driven by only conspiracy about NASA and South Pole.

What is a moonshramp?

One of my most favorite explanations for what causes the phases of the moon.

A bioluminescent life form that lives on the moon.  It migrates across the surface which is why there are phases.  Another explanation has the bioluninescent life causing the illumination and weather patterns causes the phases.

John Davis used them and weather on the moon for his model.  Not sure if it was his hypothesis or another FE's. I believe now he no longer believes that.

Quote from: neowolfe on August 03, 2016, 08:40:58 PM

I think the reason we never see the other side of the moon is because the moon points to the north pole just like a compass always points to the north pole.

Nice idea, but what if you in northern hemisphere? North from equator? The moon going in circles above equator, so you would see the other side. Especially from North Pole.

Guys, this all makes no sense. In FET the fact that we see only one side of moon is UNEXPLAINABLE as tons of other things. It's a one of thousands of reasons why FET introduces much more difficulties instead of explaining things, while driven by only conspiracy about NASA and South Pole.

You're forgetting all of the other fields of science that are either ignored or demonized as con artists like:
Astronomy
Physics
Paleontology
Geology
And many more, including common sense.

Quote from: TheRealBillNye on August 03, 2016, 09:23:45 PM

What is a moonshramp?

One of my most favorite explanations for what causes the phases of the moon.

A bioluminescent life form that lives on the moon.  It migrates across the surface which is why there are phases.  Another explanation has the bioluninescent life causing the illumination and weather patterns causes the phases.

John Davis used them and weather on the moon for his model.  Not sure if it was his hypothesis or another FE's. I believe now he no longer believes that.

I don't know which is funnier, what a moonshramp is, or the name itself. How does a man conjure up something so preposterous? On the first page of this website it claims Flat Earth Theory is based upon empirical evidence. Well, has anybody ever seen a moonshramp?? Did he provide any evidence to their existence beyond sheet conjecture?

Pay attention to the shape of the dimples in the middle and near the edge on a golf-ball:

Now look at the shape of the craters in the middle and near the edges on the moon:

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Quote from: neowolfe on August 03, 2016, 08:40:58 PM

I think the reason we never see the other side of the moon is because the moon points to the north pole just like a compass always points to the north pole.

Nice idea, but what if you in northern hemisphere? North from equator? The moon going in circles above equator, so you would see the other side. Especially from North Pole.

Guys, this all makes no sense. In FET the fact that we see only one side of moon is UNEXPLAINABLE as tons of other things. It's a one of thousands of reasons why FET introduces much more difficulties instead of explaining things, while driven by only conspiracy about NASA and South Pole.

You're forgetting all of the other fields of science that are either ignored or demonized as con artists like:
Astronomy
Physics
Paleontology
Geology
And many more, including common sense.

Oh I'm sorry. I didn't provide a detailed answer, but by "thousands of reasons" I meant all these areas.

I think the reason we never see the other side of the moon is because the moon points to the north pole just like a compass always points to the north pole.

A compass points north MAGNETIC pole. Which is not the same as north pole.

Fun fact: there are places on Earth where compass pointing north magnetic pole would take you to south pole (geographic one).

Brouwer, be aware!!! Heretic!! The Flat Earth Church troops are on the way...

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The moon is flat.  Period.  Have YOU ever seen the 'other side of it'?  No.  Because it's FLAT.  has ANYONE seen the 'other side' of the moon.  Nope, because it's flat.  Don't give me that NASA fake 'dark side of the moon' picture from the 1960's - Fake.  I aint seen the other side, nobody has.. the ONLY 'people' that have seen it is 'NASA'... 50 years ago...

Nope, just because you assert something doesn't make it true.  We can see about 59% of the Moon's surface from the earth due to the moon's libration.  The fact that the moon librates in the way that it does is extremely strong evidence that the moon is round and that it orbits the earth.  And let's not forget all the imagery of the back of the moon before or since the moon landings, taken by probes. 

Not happening.  Sorry.  That is NOT a real picture.  Its -- again FROM NASA!

You know this.  Look up in the sky and tell me when YOU see that image you posted.

Answer:  Never

Fact:  YOU (yes YOU, not me, but YOU) have NEVER SEEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON.  You will DIE having NEVER seen it.  I can guarantee that.  So any claim of the moon being ROUND comes from NASA, your IMAGINATION, or BOTH.

Science=OBSERVABLE  and again, don't go pulling the "NASA CARD" BILLIONS of REAL PEOPLE's OBSERVATIONS versus "NASA" is simply not happenin'.


Again when YOU see it, it's true.  Otherwise, science is science.  You are more than welcome to post up YOUR photos OR photos of REAL PEOPLE of the 'other side of the moon'... but... you simply cannot.

..but you BELIEVE you can...


-- hives

I'm not totally sure if you're serious or not but I thought I'd just point out that you don't need to take Nasa's word for it. Telescopes powerful enough to observe the spherical nature of the moon are pretty cheap these days.

Again, TALK TO ME LIKE I'm IN 1st grade...


HOW do I get to see a view, or picture like this OTHER than by NASA:





HOW DO I GET TO SEE THIS other than through 'NASA's eyes'?

Answer that?


When I, you (yes YOU) look at the moon we both see this:





RIGHT?


OK -- so TELL ME HOW WE (ie YOU AND ME) can get to see this:







WILL you, me, or ANYONE you know or will eve know, EVER get to see ^ this other than via a NASA website?

Again since when did BILLIONS of peoples eyes take second fiddle to a few NASA images from 6 decades ago?


When people stopped thinking?


-- hives

The part outlined in green is the extent we can view from earth.  The rest was taken by probes fairly recently, and not all of them US probes.

But these images is real??

Brouwer, be aware!!! Heretic!! The Flat Earth Church troops are on the way...

I am. Good thing is that I am no longer indoctrinated by any religion. And any argument of that kind doesn't work for me.

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Quote from: djhives on July 31, 2016, 01:58:45 PM

The moon is flat.  Period.  Have YOU ever seen the 'other side of it'?  No.  Because it's FLAT.  has ANYONE seen the 'other side' of the moon.  Nope, because it's flat.  Don't give me that NASA fake 'dark side of the moon' picture from the 1960's - Fake.  I aint seen the other side, nobody has.. the ONLY 'people' that have seen it is 'NASA'... 50 years ago...

Nope, just because you assert something doesn't make it true.  We can see about 59% of the Moon's surface from the earth due to the moon's libration.  The fact that the moon librates in the way that it does is extremely strong evidence that the moon is round and that it orbits the earth.  And let's not forget all the imagery of the back of the moon before or since the moon landings, taken by probes. 

Not happening.  Sorry.  That is NOT a real picture.  Its -- again FROM NASA!

You know this.  Look up in the sky and tell me when YOU see that image you posted.

Answer:  Never

Fact:  YOU (yes YOU, not me, but YOU) have NEVER SEEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON.  You will DIE having NEVER seen it.  I can guarantee that.  So any claim of the moon being ROUND comes from NASA, your IMAGINATION, or BOTH.

Science=OBSERVABLE  and again, don't go pulling the "NASA CARD" BILLIONS of REAL PEOPLE's OBSERVATIONS versus "NASA" is simply not happenin'.


Again when YOU see it, it's true.  Otherwise, science is science.  You are more than welcome to post up YOUR photos OR photos of REAL PEOPLE of the 'other side of the moon'... but... you simply cannot.

..but you BELIEVE you can...


-- hives

I'm not totally sure if you're serious or not but I thought I'd just point out that you don't need to take Nasa's word for it. Telescopes powerful enough to observe the spherical nature of the moon are pretty cheap these days.

Again, TALK TO ME LIKE I'm IN 1st grade...


HOW do I get to see a view, or picture like this OTHER than by NASA:





HOW DO I GET TO SEE THIS other than through 'NASA's eyes'?

Answer that?


When I, you (yes YOU) look at the moon we both see this:





RIGHT?


OK -- so TELL ME HOW WE (ie YOU AND ME) can get to see this:







WILL you, me, or ANYONE you know or will eve know, EVER get to see ^ this other than via a NASA website?

Again since when did BILLIONS of peoples eyes take second fiddle to a few NASA images from 6 decades ago?


When people stopped thinking?


-- hives

The part outlined in green is the extent we can view from earth.  The rest was taken by probes fairly recently, and not all of them US probes.

But these images is real??

Yes these images "is real"

Flat Eathers, just answer a simple question - how could everyone on this planet wherever they are at the same time see only one side of moon?
Doesn't it going in circles above equator?

Flat Eathers, just answer a simple question - how could everyone on this planet wherever they are at the same time see only one side of moon?
Doesn't it going in circles above equator?

See https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67521.0 for example "answer". You are entering the area of FET where all FET can offer is evasion.

You don't want to know. Trust me on this one.

You don't want to know. Trust me on this one.

Actually I do. Trust me. I would love to hear your opinions on this matter.

Quote from: djhives on July 31, 2016, 03:26:49 PM

Quote from: crutonius on July 31, 2016, 03:12:45 PM

Quote from: djhives on July 31, 2016, 03:02:43 PM

Quote from: Blue_Moon on July 31, 2016, 02:29:06 PM

Quote from: djhives on July 31, 2016, 01:58:45 PM

The moon is flat.  Period.  Have YOU ever seen the 'other side of it'?  No.  Because it's FLAT.  has ANYONE seen the 'other side' of the moon.  Nope, because it's flat.  Don't give me that NASA fake 'dark side of the moon' picture from the 1960's - Fake.  I aint seen the other side, nobody has.. the ONLY 'people' that have seen it is 'NASA'... 50 years ago...

Nope, just because you assert something doesn't make it true.  We can see about 59% of the Moon's surface from the earth due to the moon's libration.  The fact that the moon librates in the way that it does is extremely strong evidence that the moon is round and that it orbits the earth.  And let's not forget all the imagery of the back of the moon before or since the moon landings, taken by probes. 

Not happening.  Sorry.  That is NOT a real picture.  Its -- again FROM NASA!

You know this.  Look up in the sky and tell me when YOU see that image you posted.

Answer:  Never

Fact:  YOU (yes YOU, not me, but YOU) have NEVER SEEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOON.  You will DIE having NEVER seen it.  I can guarantee that.  So any claim of the moon being ROUND comes from NASA, your IMAGINATION, or BOTH.

Science=OBSERVABLE  and again, don't go pulling the "NASA CARD" BILLIONS of REAL PEOPLE's OBSERVATIONS versus "NASA" is simply not happenin'.


Again when YOU see it, it's true.  Otherwise, science is science.  You are more than welcome to post up YOUR photos OR photos of REAL PEOPLE of the 'other side of the moon'... but... you simply cannot.

..but you BELIEVE you can...


-- hives

I'm not totally sure if you're serious or not but I thought I'd just point out that you don't need to take Nasa's word for it. Telescopes powerful enough to observe the spherical nature of the moon are pretty cheap these days.

Again, TALK TO ME LIKE I'm IN 1st grade...


HOW do I get to see a view, or picture like this OTHER than by NASA:





HOW DO I GET TO SEE THIS other than through 'NASA's eyes'?

Answer that?


When I, you (yes YOU) look at the moon we both see this:





RIGHT?


OK -- so TELL ME HOW WE (ie YOU AND ME) can get to see this:







WILL you, me, or ANYONE you know or will eve know, EVER get to see ^ this other than via a NASA website?

Again since when did BILLIONS of peoples eyes take second fiddle to a few NASA images from 6 decades ago?


When people stopped thinking?


-- hives

The part outlined in green is the extent we can view from earth.  The rest was taken by probes fairly recently, and not all of them US probes.

Mmmmm it's makes sense

Hello everyone, I am new to this great forum. Joined this out of curiosity to get the answers as this has become serious discussion going on whether earth is flat or round moon is flat or round but I believe there is something which we all are missing. And I think discussion about moon being flat or sphere should not stop. I am here because I just wanted to know why moon looks spherical if its flat. Heliocentric model has its explanation and flat earth model is another explanation which both works and fails.
      

Hello everyone, I am new to this great forum. Joined this out of curiosity to get the answers as this has become serious discussion going on whether earth is flat or round moon is flat or round but I believe there is something which we all are missing. And I think discussion about moon being flat or sphere should not stop. I am here because I just wanted to know why moon looks spherical if its flat. Heliocentric model has its explanation and flat earth model is another explanation which both works and fails.
      

In reality the moon works just the way its suppose to and it never fails. As for the flat earth moon there is no factual evidence of the claims of it being flat and self luminescent and FE moon fails every time.

But why exact same picture of moon whether its daytime or night

Holy fucking shit. I thought FE is already bad, but there are people who think the moon is flat! Can you fucking imagine how low the iq of someone like this has to be?
Jesus....they surely also think that vaccines cause autism....

But why exact same picture of moon whether its daytime or night

Do you mean why we only see the same side of the moon? If so its because the moon spins at a perfect speed and distance that allows it only 1 full rotation every 1 full orbit of earth. With its elliptical orbit and its tilt we can see a little more but not much. So the moon does spin but its orbit only allows the same side to face the earth and over time only 59% of it can be seen from earth.

Here is a 2min video that explains it a little better.

Holy fucking shit. I thought FE is already bad, but there are people who think the moon is flat! Can you fucking imagine how low the iq of someone like this has to be?
Jesus....they surely also think that vaccines cause autism....

Flat earthers think all planets and moons we see are flat discs that face us with their top showing. This is one way how they dismiss the reality of what we see from telescopes that cant be blamed on NASA CGI.

Quote from: Apokalypt on September 15, 2017, 08:27:33 AM

Holy fucking shit. I thought FE is already bad, but there are people who think the moon is flat! Can you fucking imagine how low the iq of someone like this has to be?
Jesus....they surely also think that vaccines cause autism....

Flat earthers think all planets and moons we see are flat discs that face us with their top showing. This is one way how they dismiss the reality of what we see from telescopes that cant be blamed on NASA CGI.

Yeah...it is incredible how the flat moon can move along with every single person no matter where they are and always show the complete flat side....and at the same time magically change textures!

Can there be anything more stupid than this picture? Unf.king beleivable the dumbness of this flat earth sh.t

Again... the NASA stuff is BEYOND obvious... so I hesitate in showing you 'proof of NASA fakery' since it's so OBVIOUS...

but here's a good one:

This is so typical of a flattard, unbelievable. Misunderstand something, or NOT understand something; and poof, the "örf iz phlat"! And then the audacity to say sh.t like:

Again OBSERVE with your OWN eyes/brain.

Don't you people have the least bit of shame? Don't you people have a shred of, an iota of self-awareness?

Since that cannot happen, the moon is flat... Look up in the sky, you see a FLAT object.  If it's round then SHOW ME THE BACK SIDE.

The end.


-- hives

Like you're in 1st grade, here goes:

Okay little John, this is a basketball.  It's a sphere.  Because of the curve, you can only see half of it at a time.  But we all know that just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there right?  We know that there is air even though we can't see it.  We know that even when it's dark in your room, all the things you can see when they're lit up are still there.  Not seeing something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  It just means we have to somehow change our perspective in order to see it.

Quote from: Apokalypt on September 15, 2017, 08:27:33 AM

Holy fucking shit. I thought FE is already bad, but there are people who think the moon is flat! Can you fucking imagine how low the iq of someone like this has to be?
Jesus....they surely also think that vaccines cause autism....

Flat earthers think all planets and moons we see are flat discs that face us with their top showing. This is one way how they dismiss the reality of what we see from telescopes that cant be blamed on NASA CGI.

I have seen some posts such as these :
The earth is not a planet.
The earth is flat because it is "unique".
There are no planets, they are just holograms projected on the dome by NASA CGI.
And there are many others which could be quoted too !

Do you mean why we only see the same side of the moon? If so its because the moon spins at a perfect speed and distance that allows it only 1 full rotation every 1 full orbit of earth.

Wow. It almost seems like RE theory was designed around explaining away obvious Flat Earth tells.

Quote from: GRIZZ420 on September 15, 2017, 08:30:05 AM

Do you mean why we only see the same side of the moon? If so its because the moon spins at a perfect speed and distance that allows it only 1 full rotation every 1 full orbit of earth.

Wow. It almost seems like RE theory was designed around explaining away obvious Flat Earth tells.

But we can see moon as spherical not as a flat disc and if it is flat disc then people would be seeing it elliptical in some different location.

Quote from: GRIZZ420 on September 15, 2017, 08:30:05 AM

Do you mean why we only see the same side of the moon? If so its because the moon spins at a perfect speed and distance that allows it only 1 full rotation every 1 full orbit of earth.

Wow. It almost seems like RE theory was designed around explaining away obvious Flat Earth tells.

By "obvious Flat Earth tells", do you mean "obvious things that Flat Earth can't explain"?