Show me ONE, please...

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2016, 09:00:46 AM »
and the fact it's never been seen since? or reported previous?

no?

nothing?

ok, forget eclipses if you like, there's plenty more evidence of a globe, we're armed to the teeth with evidence, FE's are second guessing everything with not a single shred of anything that even resembles evidence

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2016, 01:49:59 AM »
Every sandokhan post ever has the same format:

1) [Insert name] you don't know what is going on/you came unprepared/do your homework.
2) Rant about how people who disagree with him should not be allowed here.
3) Look guys this dumb phenomenon that I claim is happening!

Describes dumb phenomenon using mountains of copy pasta. 
4) Don't believe me? Here's a reference to the SINGLE GREATEST FUCKING SCIENTIST THAT HAS EVER BEEN FUCKING BORN!!!

Either misquotes/quotes out of context a good scientist or finds a pseudoscientist/a scientist of a different field who shouldn't be talking about physics or astronomy.
5) Let's just throw some more random copy pasta for some other random supposed phenomena!
6) Do you want to talk about the Allais effect?
7) Too bad, you will.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2016, 11:09:05 AM »
Heliocentric model seems rather impossible, if not miraculous..... that the earth's shadow at those distances would perfectly fit over the Moon.
The earth's moon is NOT a "perfect fit" with the sun by any means. In particular, the apparent size of moon varies quite considerably.
Here are photos of the moon at its closest (left) and farthest (right) distances from earth:


The apparent size of the sun varies over a year from 0.5242° to 0.5422°
and the apparent size of the moon varies over a month from 0.4923° to 0.5548°.

So the ratio of (sun size apparent)/(moon apparent size) varies from 94% to 110%. Quite a significant difference.

So, do you still think it is such a coincidence, and even if they were the same apparent size, how is that an argument in favour of a flat earth?

Funny how your incessant bull becomes "significant difference," when it fits your agenda and, "imperceptible differences," when it does not...

You are such a buffoon.

Go take another drink. Tell em it is on me...

Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2016, 12:59:16 PM »
I swear, you must have never seen the moon in your life. It is not that high quality when looked at with your eyes. It is too small to make out shadows when viewed with the naked eye.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2016, 08:04:49 PM »

Funny how your incessant bull becomes "significant difference," when it fits your agenda and, "imperceptible differences," when it does not...

You are such a buffoon.

Go take another drink. Tell em it is on me...

I tried to "Tell em it is on me...", but they said that you said that your credit stinks!

But, whatever the all-knowing Totally Lacking thinks the apparent size of the moon is not always the same as the apparent size of the sun.

And so what if it does? That's not evidence for or against a flat or globe earth, so crawl back into your lamp till you're conjured up again.

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2016, 03:05:07 PM »
So, as I thought, not one of you can show me one diagram of a solar eclipse drawn even remotely to scale...

Knew that already, as the silly little lights in the sky that never, ever, change & nobody normal cares about, yet you freaks are obsessed with nonetheless, are clearly not what you mentalist perverts claim they are...

But lol anyway.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2016, 03:45:04 PM »
So, as I thought, not one of you can show me one diagram of a solar eclipse drawn even remotely to scale...

How's this?
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2016, 08:04:24 PM »
So, as I thought, not one of you can show me one diagram of a solar eclipse drawn even remotely to scale...

Knew that already, as the silly little lights in the sky that never, ever, change & nobody normal cares about, yet you freaks are obsessed with nonetheless, are clearly not what you mentalist perverts claim they are...

But lol anyway.

Did you miss this link?

http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

Here is the Earth and Moon at a scale where they are both still visible. You should notice the Sun is not visible at this scale. If we increase the size of both the Sun is even further away.



At this scale the moon is one pixel in size.  Can you not figure out why no one decides to use a scale diagram showing an eclipse.  They either leave something out or do not use a diagram to scale. It would be too hard to see what is going on.

Are you going to the flat side or something?  You might as well you ignore evidence like a lot of FE's do.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 08:18:45 PM by Woody »

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2016, 04:25:34 AM »
So, as I thought, not one of you can show me one diagram of a solar eclipse drawn even remotely to scale...

Knew that already, as the silly little lights in the sky that never, ever, change & nobody normal cares about, yet you freaks are obsessed with nonetheless, are clearly not what you mentalist perverts claim they are...

But lol anyway.
What on earth do you think this was! Posted just after you took your "vacation"

Yeah...
Show me ONE solar eclipse diagram that's drawn to scale please.
Just the ONE...

None of these suffice:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=solar+eclipse+diagram&biw=1024&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjo4N7iyJnOAhUrD8AKHb7ODBwQ_AUIBigB
Oh, & when you're done with that, show me all the videos of solar eclipses taken from the ISS...
Thank you please!

With the distances (and sizes involved) you can't easily get a "scale diagram", certainly not with the sun in it. Here is my rough attempt.


Solar Eclipse Earth and Moon to scale

This is just the earth part enlarged a bit.

Solar Eclipse, Earth part only

The Earth part could easily be scaled up more, or the latitude on earth changed.

Though Markjo's in Re: Show me ONE, please... « Reply #36 on: August 06, 2016, 03:45:04 PM » is prettier!

You can chase up videos of eclipses from the ISS as easily as any of us!

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2016, 10:42:16 PM »
Can you not figure out why no one decides to use a scale diagram showing an eclipse.

Of course I can; it's because they look ridiculous & are completely unbelievable.

Which is why you won't show me one.

Why you cannot punctuate correctly is another question altogether; because you are a dumb shill thoughtlessly pumping out sloppily-conceived disinfo is my guess.

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2016, 01:29:08 AM »
Can you not figure out why no one decides to use a scale diagram showing an eclipse.

Of course I can; it's because they look ridiculous & are completely unbelievable.

Which is why you won't show me one.

Why you cannot punctuate correctly is another question altogether; because you are a dumb shill thoughtlessly pumping out sloppily-conceived disinfo is my guess.

lol.
An ungrateful little Voodoo Priest aren't you?

You draw scale drawing of what YOU think a solar eclipse SHOULD look like!
After all we know solar eclipses do really happen and there paths have been predicted long before NASA came along.
So, hop to it!

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2016, 09:44:59 AM »
How's this?


Not a scale diagram of a solar eclipse, shill...

Where's the sun?

Also; 'inner & outer shadows' - LOL!!!

Cool story bro...

Would you like a lift, son?

No.



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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2016, 11:19:26 AM »
How's this?


Not a scale diagram of a solar eclipse, shill...

Where's the sun?
At that scale, probably several hundred meters to the left.

Also; 'inner & outer shadows' - LOL!!!
Yes, as in penumbra and umbra.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2016, 11:21:16 AM »
How's this?


Not a scale diagram of a solar eclipse, shill...

Where's the sun?

Also; 'inner & outer shadows' - LOL!!!

Cool story bro...


Are you saying you do not believe in umbra and penumbra shadows?  It can be observed as you go about your day.

As for why no scale diagrams I will try again. 



The scale being used in that picture uses one pixel to represent the Moon.  That is about as small as someone can go and it still be visible. 1 pixel is equal to just about 3,500km at the scale being used.

In that picture the Sun is located just about 23 screen widths away.

If the scale was increased so things would be more clear that distance would increase.

Do you not realize if someone made a scale representation with the Sun, Moon and Earth included to fit your monitor you would not be able to see the Earth or Moon?

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2016, 12:12:44 PM »
Not a scale diagram of a solar eclipse, shill...

Where's the sun?
At that scale, probably several hundred meters to the left.

So it's not a complete scale diagram of a solar eclipse, as you claimed & as I requested.

Reported for lying, again.

As for why no scale diagrams I will try again.

And you will fail again.

Also reported for lying.

Just give up, shills.

Solar eclipses make no sense whatsoever as described.

And all your Harry Potter bullshit cannot change that fact.

Not that anyone normal cares btw...

Which makes your crazed gatekeeping of the subject look even more OCD & generally creepy.

lol.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2016, 12:48:24 PM »
I hope this helps clear up any questions you have about eclipses.  This is to scale and includes the Sun, Earth and Moon.

It may be a difficult to see the Earth and Moon since they are depicted to scale.  The Sun may also be hard to see it is that yellow dot to the left.



Here is the link to the picture:

http://i.imgur.com/HBOeaVA.png

I added it since it is more difficult to see stuff when I post it here.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2016, 01:26:11 PM by Woody »

Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2016, 01:10:15 PM »
reporting people for not making a to scale model of a solar eclipse?

are you for real?
have you actually heard what you're asking?

how about you make one?
why would you even WANT one?

very strange request, especially as the solar eclipse isn't proving anything, the lunar eclipse on the other hand......

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2016, 01:23:37 PM »
Not a scale diagram of a solar eclipse, shill...

Where's the sun?
At that scale, probably several hundred meters to the left.

So it's not a complete scale diagram of a solar eclipse, as you claimed & as I requested.
Obviously you don't understand the scale of the solar system.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2016, 03:06:15 PM »
Don't say I never gave you nothing!

https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag_gxivZXoKtix5lu6DjymX1jy7q

Drawn at approximately 1 pixel equals 1160 km.....
The Earth is at about 131,000x750 px if you're having trouble finding it!!

ENJOY!!

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2016, 10:23:50 AM »
Don't get it do you, dickheads?

You think this:


Is compatible with these:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=solar+eclipse+diagram&biw=1024&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjo4N7iyJnOAhUrD8AKHb7ODBwQ_AUIBigB

It is not.

Only a madman would think it is.

Or a shill.

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2016, 10:38:31 AM »
Don't get it do you, dickheads?

You think this:


Is compatible with these:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=solar+eclipse+diagram&biw=1024&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjo4N7iyJnOAhUrD8AKHb7ODBwQ_AUIBigB

It is not.

Only a madman would think it is.

Or a shill.

Hi shills & madmen!
And only a troll would think that an accurate scale model of the inner solar system is necessary to show how an eclipse works.

Hi troll!
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2016, 10:44:19 AM »
And only a troll would think that an accurate scale model of the inner solar system is necessary to show how an eclipse works.

You are SO fucking reported for saying that you complete & utter shill.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2016, 10:56:00 AM »
And only a troll would think that an accurate scale model of the inner solar system is necessary to show how an eclipse works.

You are SO fucking reported for saying that you complete & utter shill.
Since when is calling someone for their bullshit against the rules? ???
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2016, 11:53:10 AM »
Since when is calling someone for their bullshit against the rules?

Since when is refusing to provide an accurate model for your claims even vaguely scientifically acceptable?

*Yawn!*

Reported.

Again.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2016, 11:55:41 AM »
Why is it scientifically unacceptable?
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2016, 12:34:56 PM »
Using diagrams that are not to scale are perfectly scientific if it helps to convey the concept being described.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2016, 01:20:37 PM »
Why is it scientifically unacceptable?

Because it's inaccurate & dishonest.

Like you.

Using diagrams that are not to scale are perfectly scientific if it helps to convey the concept being described.

Might wanna sort your grammar out there shill...

But anyhoo, 'conveying the concept' is NOT the same as accurately describing the phenomenon...

Which is what I've been asking for.

In summary: reported, the both of you.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2016, 01:28:17 PM »
Why is it scientifically unacceptable?

Because it's inaccurate & dishonest.

Like you.
It is actually perfectly accurate. The scale is exactly what we would see in the real world.

Also, I know that you aren't reporting us, because you are to much of a coward.
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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2016, 01:28:35 PM »
Since when is calling someone for their bullshit against the rules?

Since when is refusing to provide an accurate model for your claims even vaguely scientifically acceptable?

*Yawn!*

Reported.

Again.

You ask "Since when is refusing to provide an accurate model for your claims even vaguely scientifically acceptable?"
It is quite acceptable to use a drawing with some parts drawn larger simply for clarity.

You have been provided with drawings to scale of the moon and earth part, with the sun's light rays, showing a solar eclipse. This is just readable.
You have been provided with drawings to scale of the sun, moon and earth part of the system, showing a solar eclipse.
The components of this are is just too small to be readable.
What else do you want?

It is not our fault that the dimensions are such that a scale drawing or scale model is completely impractical.

So, I guess it's over to the Voodoo Priest to show us just what he think this "scale model" should look like.

Of course, the Voodoo Priest is just going to say that he doesn't believe in solar eclipses, just as he doesn't believe in atoms, nuclear weapons, rockets in space and most other things.

Since you *Yawn!* so much crawl back under your rock and go to sleep.
Hopefully get out from the right side of your rock this , so you won't be in your usual grouchy mood!

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Re: Show me ONE, please...
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2016, 01:47:03 PM »
coward.

lol gaslighting.

SO MUCH MAD ANGRY SHIT!!! NOBODY READS IT!!! ANGER!!! SHIT!!!

I know what you look like, shill.

Like a half-drowned rat.

What in the name of God did you DO to be reduced to such states?
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