I don't take the quran all that seriously so the passages doesn't affect me. Though to be fair I've heard that even those verses aren't claiming that the earth is flat but I don't know how to defend that.
We are already not waiting the verses on the quran do effect to you.
They are defending to quran saying the earth is globe with some arguments came not from quran. They are listening someone except "Allah" or what "Hz Mohammad" said. They are considering what is he said who has the name of "Aboo so-and-so", "Ibny so-and-so", but aren't considering what Allah or Hz Mohammad said who they are declarated to believe to. this behavior only can explained by stupidity or dishonesty.
As everybody see that how they are dishonesty by saying "we accept the bible". If the book were not changed, and only some rules was changed, so how and why God changed his idea about the earth was flat on bible and after that on the quran he changed his mind to the earth is a globe.
Is God changed the shape of the earth while he changing the rules on the book? This is a fatal question . these hypocrites do not answer it.
I don't think the quran was inspired. It has many contradictions to the Bible. For example are Bible claims that Jesus is the son of God and God himself yet the quran claims he's only a prophet. So whatever the quran says I doubt its from God.
You are wellcome to non believers society.
There are no contradictions but you are talking like most of muslims talk. They are on same opinion with you. How interesting.
Your example is almost all non-believers argumant. But i disagree this.
To explain what i mean, you should to see a verse on quran about Maria and Jesus.
quran 21:91. This is not an original translation:
And [mention] the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her [garment] through Our angel [Gabriel], and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.This translation is same from
http://quran.com/21/91 This translation is completely a lie. Because there is no word as angel or Gabriel on the verse.
Lets look to the original:
وَالَّتِي أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِن رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنَاهَا وَابْنَهَا آيَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ ﴿٩١﴾
1. velletî (ve elletî) : and her
2. ahsanet : saved
3. ferce-hâ : virginity
4. fe nefah-nâ : then we blew
5. fî-hâ : in her
6. min rûhi-nâ : our soul
7. ve cealnâ-hâ : and made her
8. vebne-hâ (ve ibne-hâ) : her son
9. âyeten : a verse
10. li el âlemîne : to realms.
Now we translate it by original writing:
I blew my soul to "in her" (to Maria's in), and made her impregnate while she had saved her virginity. I do this for be a warning to all realms. (quran:21:91)This is my translation about this verse is better than all other translations all over the world.
Now.
Quran clearly talking about Jesus what he is. Is there any contradiction this verse with bible? No. on the contrary of complementing and supporting.
I'll explain why muslims react when they heard Jesus as God's son. Actually all we read what Jesus is. God told detailed about his birth. howbeit God saying on quran that he react Jesus observed equivalent to God.
I know God very well and i understand why he sent quran. Because this is a reaction to most of people observed Jesus equivalent to God. That's the whole point. Islam is a response action of God. To accept or not, i know the logic of God, why send quran.
Bible is not changed. quran, the Torah and the Bible does not contradict . only God's attitude is changing because people change their behavior. And sometimes people add their comments to verses.
Can you tell me how a man says quran don't say there is no relationship between God and Jesus after see this verse?
I blew my soul to "in her" (to Maria's in), and made her impregnate while she had saved her virginity. I do this for be a warning to all realms. (quran:21:91)This is a kind of artificial insemination. This detail not in the Bible. So this verse complementing the bible with how God made Maria to pregrant. This makes relationship between God and Jesus. There is no any other explanation. I don't want to talk more about it. everything is very clear. There is no contradiction. But there is brutal denial on almost all muslims and almost all christians about don't understand what read, don't see what look ! This is not my problem, but all you have.
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I want to show you a verse that showed as main objection to Bible from muslims. verse ihlas. This is almost most known verse of quran. And who heard it, verse motivates him hinder to think a relationship about God. Lets look:
From
http://quran.com/112:11- Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One, (in my opinion, translation is true)
2- Allah , the Eternal Refuge. (in my opinion, translation is true)
3-
He neither begets nor is born, (in my opinion, translation is WRONG)
4- Nor is there to Him any equivalent." (in my opinion, translation is true)
Now lets look the verse which i protested it.
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ
lem yelid : never borne
ve lem yûled: never bear
This is about all of Turkish translation: never borne, never bear.
The first one is showing God never be a son of someone. And the second one is showing God is never be a mother. How about father? There isn't. Just There is a word game here . God want to people think about nobody is relatives him. but he is doing without using the word father . This is not a joke , this verse is a fact verse on quran and who heard it, directly think God never and never be relatives to someone.
To determine this situation i think it requered a man like me. Trying to say truth in every situation.
Thank you for read me.