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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27030 on: Today at 11:14:31 AM »
There's algae in the reflecting pool! ofc there is, it's water in full sunlight. lol

It's a really silly and unimportant issue, but it's not normally like that, I saw some dude who apparently has a PhD on cyanobacteria explain that it's probably because they refilled it with city water after painting it. City water has orthophosphate, which the city puts in to prevent lead corrosion, but it feeds algae.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27031 on: Today at 11:36:04 AM »
If they make war against God, every person of their country is doomed.
But you’re the one who wants to make war against their God (which happens to be the same God of the Jews and Christians).

I always enjoyed the Thai phrase “same same, but different” (the phrase often used with tourists anyway).  A recognition that their menu might be exactly the same as everyone else on the street, but theirs is better.  Somehow.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27032 on: Today at 01:45:54 PM »
If they make war against God, every person of their country is doomed.
But you’re the one who wants to make war against their God (which happens to be the same God of the Jews and Christians).

I'm sorry, their "God"?

Their "God" is Satan. 

As long as the people are following this "God", the law on the matter is clear.
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Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys

What was Amalek's crime? Was God racist against them? No, they were at war with God and his people. When Israel was leaving Egypt, just to be shits, they attacked them. The evil of Amalek was so profound that even cattle and sheep were evil. When an ideology pits people against God, it has to be done away with. You first ask if they really want war, or if something can be negotiated. Then if you can, killing one or two people, if the people repent and turn away from their beliefs, all is good. Then you have to kill all warriors. Then if even the women, children, and animals are against you...

You have to stop them all. Iran isn't like that. They have admitted they want their clerics gone. Palestine is. I would that Palestine be given a land of its own, but I fully expect their men, women, children, and animals to continue against Israel. They play the blame game.

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It’s almost as if Bulma doesn’t understand the concept of line of succession or the power of martyrdom.  Sure, let’s give Iran lots of martyrs, nobody is going to want to step up and avenge them. ::)
I do actually. Martyrs believe in a cause because they are fed rhetoric.


And when the leadership is out of power, this happens. 

The English and Germans realize they aren't the enemy. Had the war ended on Christmas Day, this world would not have a World War II, no Cold War, etc. The war machine sent its "Christian" priests to tell everyone that this was the enemy. They sent their military generals to relieve everyone involved and send a bunch of green troops to continue the fighting.

When you stop being propagandized for a hot minute, the chain of command falls apart, and the war machine ends. Kill the war priests, and it's all over, like a bad dream. The Muslims without priests, are just led by generals, and they lose their fervor for martyrdom. They start to think about how their priests died like other men, and they realize there is nothing special about Islam. If a sand storm somehow crushed the mosques with the imams in it, and buried all Islamic writings, they weren't allowed to say (politically correct programming) whether it would be weeks or months whether they lost their faith, but they did say that without a priesthood, what would tend to happen is the usual teachings get "fuzzy" and without priests to act as guardrails, syncretism tends to happen. In the scenario I presented to AI, there was a chasm isolating them from other Muslims, and they got trade from Hindus, Zoroastrians, and Christians. Priests are effectively the enemy of religions getting along, by imposing an idea of religious purity. The resulting syncretism, I called Sakkun.
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Sure—here’s a plausible way “Sakkun” could look as a syncretic remnant that keeps some Islamic identity cues while blending in Hindu, Zoroastrian/Farsi, and Christian influences.
Core identity (what survives)

    A belief in one supreme God (Allah/One God) and reverence for prophetic figures (some “Islamic” memory stays, but the details get reshaped).
    A continuing sense that they are a chosen/faithful community, with rituals meant to show purity and obedience.
    A sacred calendar built around a few inherited observances, but the dates/rules become “fuzzy” and locally redefined.

Syncretic beliefs & cosmology

    Creation and final judgment remain central, but they’re interpreted through mixed frameworks:
        Hindu-style emphasis on moral causation (karma-like consequences) alongside a Christian “judgment day.”
        Zoroastrian elements: cosmic dualism (good vs. destructive forces) rephrased as moral/spiritual struggle.
    Saints/holy figures become a mix of:
        remembered “prophets,”
        revered regional holy men,
        and Christian saints/holy persons recast as earlier revelations.

Ritual practice (where syncretism becomes obvious)

    Weekly gathering resembling a congregational prayer, but with added features:
        song/chant with call-and-response (Hindu devotion + Christian hymns),
        purification rites (Islamic cleanliness themes plus local water/ash customs).
    The central ritual could be a “confession + remembrance” service where:
        some recitation is treated as inherited scripture,
        but meanings are explained using familiar story patterns from surrounding faiths.
    Fasts exist, but the logic mixes:
        fasting as penance/purification (Zoroastrian moral cleansing),
        fasting as devotion/discipline (Christian),
        fasting as spiritual training (Hindu).

Sacred texts (what replaces the Qur’an)

Since you’ve assumed text is gone, Sakkun likely has one of these:

    A memory-based scripture (chants, short formulas, “authorized” oral lineages),
    plus “story scripture” (parable-like narratives) borrowed/adapted from Christian tales and local legends.

The result: doctrine is less “letter-locked” and more story-locked, so it can flex without collapsing.
Ethical system

    Strong emphasis on charity, hospitality, and protection of the poor (Christian + Islamic overlap).
    A moral map of the soul:
        “dark impulses” vs. “light/true path” (Zoroastrian tone),
        with emphasis on right action leading to eventual restoration or favorable fate (Hindu resonance).

Likely theologization of Jesus

    Jesus becomes:
        a revered prophet/miraculous figure,
        sometimes framed as a “returning healer” or “word made spiritual” rather than the full Christian doctrine,
        depending on which oral explanations dominate that generation.

Who preserves the tradition

Without authoritative scholars, Sakkun stabilizes through:

    ritual specialists (prayer leaders, chant-keepers),
    family teachers,
    and “memory guilds” that decide which versions of recitations/stories count as correct.

Then I told it make the theology like Christian & Zoroastrianism, and the Rituals more like Hinduism & Zoroastrianism.
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Theology (more Christian + Zoroastrian)

    God / ultimate conflict: One sovereign God, but the world is shaped by a present struggle between the forces of Good and Evil (Zoroastrian dualistic “contest,” Christian moral/spiritual framing).
    Fall and restoration: Humans are in a fallen condition; salvation is restoration and reconciliation rather than just “getting it right” (Christian soteriology, Zoroastrian moral correction).
    Sin → judgment: Clear categories of moral guilt and cleansing; judgment day exists, but the process is explained in Zoroastrian terms (purification, ordeal, separation).
    Intermediaries: Jesus is treated primarily as a prophetic/redeeming figure—often “the clearest messenger” of the divine plan—while other holy figures can be re-labeled as earlier agents/teachers aligned with the same cosmic truth.

Rituals (more Zoroastrian + Hindu)

    Daily/regular worship: Fixed prayer times tied to an ordered sacred day (Zoroastrian cadence), with call-and-response chanting (devotional Hindu style).
    Purity rites: Strong emphasis on bodily/spiritual purification—water/ash/smoke practices (Zoroastrian cleanliness and fire symbolism), plus repetitive sanctifying gestures.
    Fire/Light center: Worship anchored around a continuing flame/light symbol (Zoroastrian “fire as sacred focus”), with incense/offerings and devotional circumambulation or processional elements (Hindu devotional form).
    Feasts and offerings: Seasonal festivals and food offerings to align the community with cosmic order (Zoroastrian calendar feel + Hindu festival structure).
    Confession / remembrance service: Instead of “sermons on scripture,” there’s a ritualized communal recitation of moral narratives and repentance—Christian-style confession themes expressed through Zoroastrian/Hindu devotional formats.
Then I asked "What of Islam remains at this point."
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If Sakkun is mostly Christian + Zoroastrian theology and Zoroastrian + Hindu rituals, then what “Islamic” remnants would likely remain are the parts that are easiest to preserve without text and leadership—mainly identity language, a few inherited story hooks, and monotheistic framing.

Most likely Islamic remnants:

    Monotheism: “One God” as the central theological claim.
    Prophetic pattern: a continuing idea of divinely guided messengers (with Muhammad and/or “the final messenger” remembered but reinterpreted).
    Ritual cleanliness themes: ablution-like ideas survive, even if the exact practice becomes Zoroastrian/Hindu in form.
    Surrender/obedience ethos: an emphasis on submitting to God’s will and moral discipline.
    Sacred days / pilgrimage impulse: some calendar structure or a “holy direction/holy place” memory, even if ceremonies change.

Less likely to remain (without scripture/experts, over time):

    Specific legal fiqh details (prayer rak‘at counts, precise fasting rules, inheritance/halal rules).
    Doctrinal precision (e.g., detailed Islamic eschatology, creed wording, Qur’anic interpretations).
    Distinctive Islamic worship forms (Friday khutbah structure, the call-to-prayer, mosque-centered practice) unless they’re re-embedded into the new hybrid rituals.

So Islam would probably become “a monotheistic prophetic identity shell” that’s recognizable, but increasingly hard to distinguish from the surrounding Christian/Zoroastrian/Hindu blend unless you know what to look for.
Basically, if Iran lost its priests scripture, they give it 2-3 generations of mixing to completely become a new sect.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #27033 on: Today at 03:25:21 PM »
There's algae in the reflecting pool! ofc there is, it's water in full sunlight. lol

It's a really silly and unimportant issue, but it's not normally like that, I saw some dude who apparently has a PhD on cyanobacteria explain that it's probably because they refilled it with city water after painting it. City water has orthophosphate, which the city puts in to prevent lead corrosion, but it feeds algae.

yeah, I saw something about a reporter scooping up some water and having it tested and it had lots of phosphates. Cyanobacteria loves sunlight, nitrates, and phosphates. If they want it to clear up they should toss some chlorine tabs in and just treat it like a swimming pool.
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