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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
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I want him to fight terrorism
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Free trade is bad
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He is the wild card we need
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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19050 on: September 21, 2020, 07:24:23 PM »

Maybe it's the hydroxy? Good luck getting a straight answer though. Vague allusions to greatness seems to be the MO for Republican carnival barkers of today. There's a cure, more to come. We have a plan for healthcare, tune in next week. We totally care about preexisting conditions and want to protect everyone and wait until we reveal our plan (but ignore the whole thing where we try and dismantle it in the Supreme Court).

Ignoring your usual bullshit, yes the hydroxy, that combined with a zpack... Either full cure or knocks the symptoms way do to nothing close to death.
Are you unable to read things that Trump doesn't spoon feed to you? Hydroxychloroquine has been researched, it doesn't help. Why won't you listen to actual doctors about healthcare issues instead of blaming US Democrats for some kind of global conspiracy to take down Trump at the cost of almost 1 million lives so far?

I don't listen to Trump on this, I listen to someone who is actual responsible for running trials in France. Straight from the horses mouth.

This year is 2020, next year is 2021. I do not know how they're going to tank the economy before they are in office!

The stock market will collapse and every business sphincter will tighten if Biden wins, he doesn't need to actually be in office.

Well, you know the stock market is fucking weird. It's not the economy, it's where the wealthy gamble. The stock market ups and downs don't really seem to follow economic ups and downs for the regular people.

Yes these rich people want to make money and spend countless dollars on trying to predict the financial future. Plus, how many millions of people's retirement is linked to the market and it's well-being? In a way it doesn't represent main street, but in a way it absolutely does.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19051 on: September 21, 2020, 07:59:10 PM »

Maybe it's the hydroxy? Good luck getting a straight answer though. Vague allusions to greatness seems to be the MO for Republican carnival barkers of today. There's a cure, more to come. We have a plan for healthcare, tune in next week. We totally care about preexisting conditions and want to protect everyone and wait until we reveal our plan (but ignore the whole thing where we try and dismantle it in the Supreme Court).

Ignoring your usual bullshit, yes the hydroxy, that combined with a zpack... Either full cure or knocks the symptoms way do to nothing close to death.
Are you unable to read things that Trump doesn't spoon feed to you? Hydroxychloroquine has been researched, it doesn't help. Why won't you listen to actual doctors about healthcare issues instead of blaming US Democrats for some kind of global conspiracy to take down Trump at the cost of almost 1 million lives so far?

I don't listen to Trump on this, I listen to someone who is actual responsible for running trials in France. Straight from the horses mouth.

Who is the French person we should be listening to?

This year is 2020, next year is 2021. I do not know how they're going to tank the economy before they are in office!

The stock market will collapse and every business sphincter will tighten if Biden wins, he doesn't need to actually be in office.

Well, you know the stock market is fucking weird. It's not the economy, it's where the wealthy gamble. The stock market ups and downs don't really seem to follow economic ups and downs for the regular people.

Yes these rich people want to make money and spend countless dollars on trying to predict the financial future. Plus, how many millions of people's retirement is linked to the market and it's well-being? In a way it doesn't represent main street, but in a way it absolutely does.

Fair point, a majority percentage, somewhere just north of 50% of Americans with 401k's and other retirement instruments are invested in the markets. But then, of course, you have to be of the population of Americans that partake in such retirement instruments. I don't know what that percentage is. But I would say both Bom and SCG are correct in some ways.

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19052 on: September 22, 2020, 06:10:37 AM »

Maybe it's the hydroxy? Good luck getting a straight answer though. Vague allusions to greatness seems to be the MO for Republican carnival barkers of today. There's a cure, more to come. We have a plan for healthcare, tune in next week. We totally care about preexisting conditions and want to protect everyone and wait until we reveal our plan (but ignore the whole thing where we try and dismantle it in the Supreme Court).

Ignoring your usual bullshit, yes the hydroxy, that combined with a zpack... Either full cure or knocks the symptoms way do to nothing close to death.
Are you unable to read things that Trump doesn't spoon feed to you? Hydroxychloroquine has been researched, it doesn't help. Why won't you listen to actual doctors about healthcare issues instead of blaming US Democrats for some kind of global conspiracy to take down Trump at the cost of almost 1 million lives so far?

I don't listen to Trump on this, I listen to someone who is actual responsible for running trials in France. Straight from the horses mouth.

Of course you do, probably communicating via the lingua franca of Biblical Hebrew.  Have you a link to the journal papers?  Or the name of the trial?

There are lots of trials ongoing, but considering the biggest so far have found no reduction in mortality or severity of symptoms, it seems unlikely that it will suddenly be found to be a "full cure", as you put it.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19053 on: September 22, 2020, 09:33:16 AM »
I think he means this guy


You might remember him as Didier Raoult, the quack that initially said he was "curing" people but was pretty roundly discredited due to his poor methodology.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19055 on: September 22, 2020, 09:55:19 AM »
Didier Raoult is clearly Trump's old doctor disguised as a Frenchman.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19056 on: September 22, 2020, 11:02:38 AM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19059 on: September 22, 2020, 10:46:56 PM »
Nancy Pelosi wants to re-impeach Trump if he nominates a new Supreme Court Justice.

Batshit crazy bitch.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19060 on: September 22, 2020, 10:51:35 PM »
She hasn't said that.  She just didn't explicitly rule it out.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19061 on: September 22, 2020, 10:54:07 PM »
Whatever . . . can we all chip in and get her a tube of denture glue?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19062 on: September 22, 2020, 11:45:43 PM »
It's a tactic to delay the supreme court pick isn't it? It's just politics. No doubt the repugnicans would do the same if they could. We know their words and honour count for shit

Only reason the repugnicans are desperate for this pick for the supreme court now and to hell with the precedent they themselves set when Obama could have nominated his pick is that they are real scared of losing this election.

If Biden won though, can't he just bump up the number of judges to balance it out though? (I guess he'd need to win a majority in the senate too). I think he said in the past he wasn't a fan of that but no one expects a politician to keep their words anyway. Look at this McConnell moron. Utterly shameless but not surprising

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19063 on: September 22, 2020, 11:55:38 PM »

If Biden won though, can't he just bump up the number of judges to balance it out though?


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19064 on: September 23, 2020, 12:20:07 AM »
It's a tactic to delay the supreme court pick isn't it? It's just politics. No doubt the repugnicans would do the same if they could. We know their words and honour count for shit

Only reason the repugnicans are desperate for this pick for the supreme court now and to hell with the precedent they themselves set when Obama could have nominated his pick is that they are real scared of losing this election.

If Biden won though, can't he just bump up the number of judges to balance it out though? (I guess he'd need to win a majority in the senate too). I think he said in the past he wasn't a fan of that but no one expects a politician to keep their words anyway. Look at this McConnell moron. Utterly shameless but not surprising

It's unclear that an impeachment would even have that effect.  Pretty much everyone would see through it and there's only one party that likes dirty tricks.

Packing the courts... maybe.  With a 6-3 conservative court they might not have any other option.  It will destroy the legitimacy of the courts.  But that train will have pretty much sailed with this heavy of an imbalance.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19065 on: September 23, 2020, 12:22:38 AM »
Filibustering?

Appeal to repugnicans morality? Lol

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19066 on: September 23, 2020, 12:31:10 AM »
Filibustering?

Appeal to repugnicans morality? Lol

Name one law that is not about morality.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19067 on: September 23, 2020, 12:45:18 AM »
Nancy Pelosi wants to re-impeach Trump if he nominates a new Supreme Court Justice.

Batshit crazy bitch.

So the next email was claiming AOC was demanding impeachment,  and asking for more money.....   I doubt she said it either,  but I'm not going to give any more money.

PS:  I vote Bullwinkle changes his name to Boris.


I got an email from Trump saying the exact same thing,  then asking for money to stop  Crazy Nancy.

Problem is that she never said it.   

Here are the latest lies... 

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BREAKING: NANCY, CHUCK, AND AOC PUSH FOR IMPEACHMENT OVER POTENTIAL SUPREME COURT NOMINATION

Rayzor,

The Democrats have lost it.

While Crazy Nancy Pelosi and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez threaten IMPEACHMENT if President Trump moves forward with a Supreme Court nominee, Cryin’ Chuck Schumer is threatening to expand the Court if the Democrats win back the Senate Majority.

They’ve gone totally insane, Rayzor.

It’s going to take EVERY Patriot stepping up if we’re going to FIGHT BACK. President Trump just launched the 2020 Impeachment Defense Task Force, and he needs YOU to step up.

This is your chance to step up to the front lines and DEFEND your President, Rayzor. Can we count on you?

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to join the 2020 Impeachment Defense Task Force and to DEFEND your President! >>

The 2020 Impeachment Defense Task Force?    Hey I'm in,  just on the other side.  LOL
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19068 on: September 23, 2020, 12:50:21 AM »
Keep playing patticake and teaming up, it's cute. Only shows the overcompensation in attempts to hide the ugliness and inferiority within. But please, continue...

Though I trust a Dr that is paid a lot of money to help head up these non biased trials over some sad sack on the internet..... Though I am sure it seems totally normal that people were saying this drug had no effect on the virus long before the first study even happened lol....not suspect at all...
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19069 on: September 23, 2020, 01:25:11 AM »
Keep playing patticake and teaming up, it's cute. Only shows the overcompensation in attempts to hide the ugliness and inferiority within. But please, continue...

Though I trust a Dr that is paid a lot of money to help head up these non biased trials over some sad sack on the internet..... Though I am sure it seems totally normal that people were saying this drug had no effect on the virus long before the first study even happened lol....not suspect at all...

Another lie.   What people were saying is that you should do proper testing before touting it as a miracle cure.  Which is what Trump did,  and on the advice of "Dr Oz" on Fox went ahead and bought up 63 million doses of hydroxy against all the qualified medical advice.

So the federal government is stuck with 63 million doses of hydroxy.    If what you claim is true,  why aren't they dispensing it across the country?

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19070 on: September 23, 2020, 01:31:31 AM »

I vote Bullwinkle changes his name to Boris.

I am Boris, I fuck your election.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19071 on: September 23, 2020, 01:32:42 AM »
. . . can someone spare a Viagra?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19072 on: September 23, 2020, 01:45:26 AM »
While we are talking about the hydroxy debacle in the USA,  don't forget  Dr Rick Bright, who was in charge of vaccine development..
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Dr. Rick Bright said he was transferred "in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the COVID-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit.

Basically he was kicked out because he objected to the Federal Government spending on unproven quack cures like hydroxy..   

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/head-vaccine-development-alleges-cronyism-removed-post/story?id=70286813

Cronyism....  maybe one day we will discover who was making money in the background behind the hydroxy scam.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19073 on: September 23, 2020, 03:56:09 AM »
Though I trust a Dr that is paid a lot of money to help head up these non biased trials over some sad sack on the internet..... Though I am sure it seems totally normal that people were saying this drug had no effect on the virus long before the first study even happened lol....not suspect at all...
Difficult to parse this (you really should try posting sober). 

Have you any published medical literature that supports your assertions about hydroxychloroquine?

The two biggest trials have so far found no evidence that hydroxychloroquine affects mortality or symptom relief.  This might change, but as I say, it seems unlikely it will end up the miracle cure you claim.

What is the name of this French doctor and what is the name of their clinical trial?  All trials have to be registered, so it should be easy for you to link it...
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19074 on: September 23, 2020, 04:13:26 PM »
Have you any published medical literature that supports your assertions about hydroxychloroquine?
Of course not.  The Dems suppressed those studies to hurt Trump.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19075 on: September 23, 2020, 10:52:01 PM »
Have you any published medical literature that supports your assertions about hydroxychloroquine?
Of course not.  The Dems suppressed those studies to hurt Trump.

Especially in other countries.  That's how powerful the Dems are: they can literally manipulate all other nations to their will.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19076 on: September 24, 2020, 02:03:38 PM »
https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/trial/2020-000890-25/FR

This might be what Bom is referring to?  It says the trial is still ongoing, though I did see some articles referencing this trial saying HCQ with azithromycin reduces the severity of COVID.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19077 on: September 24, 2020, 02:07:02 PM »
In order to promote social justice we have renamed the Bureau of Land Management to Black Lives Matter.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19078 on: September 25, 2020, 06:34:50 PM »
If you think it's okay what the government has done to us I am surprised... Just withholding the cure because the income admin wants to be a hero, and the drug companies holding them off. That alone is enough to go before a firing squad, let alone the other 1000s of atrocities they have committed towards us. If this were a couple hundred years ago they would have been ran out and/or shot.
Again, this is a bipartisan issue.

I see that BHS has gone to ground after his ignorance and stupid assertions were exposed. 

But,  on reflection,  let's suppose he is correct about hydroxy being a complete cure for covid-19  ( hoax or not ),   here is BHS wanting to put those responsible for holding back the cure in front of a firing squad. 

Ok,  let's continue. 
The Federal Government is currently holding a stockpile of at least 63 million doses of hydroxy,  so it's the Trump administration itself that is holding back the distribution of the cure for Covid-19. 

I'm going to agree with BHS,  let's put the entire Trump Administration in front of the firing squad.

On the other hand,  if hydroxy isn't a cure, then let's throw them in jail for wasting Taxpayer funds on 63 million doses and mismanagement generally.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #19079 on: September 25, 2020, 07:01:43 PM »
The magas are working reeealy hard trying to come up with excuses to blame the dems.