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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
22 (24.2%)
I want him to fight terrorism
13 (14.3%)
Free trade is bad
6 (6.6%)
He is the wild card we need
50 (54.9%)

Total Members Voted: 85

Why do you support donald trump

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markjo

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18900 on: September 13, 2020, 10:55:15 AM »
Business Insider: Stone calls for Trump to declare 'martial law' in election loss - Business Insider.
https://www.businessinsider.com/stone-calls-for-trump-to-declare-martial-law-election-loss-2020-9

As a precaution it might be wise to invest in an AR 15.

Wouldn’t the military tell him to fuck off?  He’s not exactly given them reason to support turning the US into a dictatorship.


I honestly don't know.  Theoretically they're supposed to reject illegal orders.  Practically speaking the military doesn't select for people that spend a lot of time pondering philosophy, civics and ethics.  It's a culture that doesn't involve a lot of introspection and glorifies obedience.
For the enlisted ranks, you're probably right.  However, the officers, especially the higher ranking ones, are a different story.  Most officers have a minimum of a 4 year college degree and often more as they work their way up the ranks.

Also keep in mind that getting into the US military requires an oath to defend the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.  If the generals deem a rogue president to be a domestic enemy, then their duty is clear.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18901 on: September 13, 2020, 11:16:35 AM »
The key will be if Trump can convince the military that the election was rigged.

Probably not the high up brass, but definitely a chunk of the grunts.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18902 on: September 13, 2020, 03:51:47 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/13/trump-bay-of-pigs-award-florida-cuba-biden

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Attacking Joe Biden and seeking to exploit reports that his rival is struggling with Latino voters, Donald Trump boasted on Sunday of receiving “the highly honoured Bay of Pigs Award” from Cuban Americans in the battleground state of Florida.

Perhaps inevitably, and to the glee of the internet, no such award exists.

lol
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18903 on: September 13, 2020, 04:21:25 PM »
I wonder if anyone should remind Trump that we lost bigly at the Bay of Pigs.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18904 on: September 14, 2020, 04:21:52 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/13/trump-bay-of-pigs-award-florida-cuba-biden

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Attacking Joe Biden and seeking to exploit reports that his rival is struggling with Latino voters, Donald Trump boasted on Sunday of receiving “the highly honoured Bay of Pigs Award” from Cuban Americans in the battleground state of Florida.

Perhaps inevitably, and to the glee of the internet, no such award exists.

lol
I wonder what the award would be anyway?

The award for the Most Disastrous Illegal Invasion of a Foreign Country?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18905 on: September 14, 2020, 08:31:51 PM »
Stone calls for Trump to declare 'martial law' in election loss

So does Steven.

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Bullwinkle

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18906 on: September 14, 2020, 08:33:35 PM »
. . . and Billy.

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Bullwinkle

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18907 on: September 14, 2020, 08:37:50 PM »
I just asked Tom, he sez no 'martial law' in election loss!


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18908 on: September 14, 2020, 09:30:36 PM »
I just asked Tom, he sez no 'martial law' in election loss!

Does Tom advise the president?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18909 on: September 14, 2020, 09:39:22 PM »
I just asked Tom, he sez no 'martial law' in election loss!

Does Tom advise the president?

yep

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18910 on: September 14, 2020, 09:43:45 PM »

A digital ad released by a fundraising arm of the Trump campaign on Sept. 11 calling on people to “support our troops” uses a stock photo of Russian-made fighter jets and weapons.
The jets are Mig-29s and one of the soldiers is carrying an AK-47.  How much more evidence does anyone need to prove that Trump is in Putin's back pocket?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18911 on: September 14, 2020, 09:48:37 PM »

The jets are Mig-29s and one of the soldiers is carrying an AK-47.  How much more evidence does anyone need to prove that Trump is in Putin's back pocket?

Oh, shit, collusion.


Hahahahaha

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18912 on: September 14, 2020, 11:24:08 PM »

A digital ad released by a fundraising arm of the Trump campaign on Sept. 11 calling on people to “support our troops” uses a stock photo of Russian-made fighter jets and weapons.
The jets are Mig-29s and one of the soldiers is carrying an AK-47.  How much more evidence does anyone need to prove that Trump is in Putin's back pocket?

No way
Serious or propoganda fakenews?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18913 on: September 15, 2020, 05:42:36 AM »

A digital ad released by a fundraising arm of the Trump campaign on Sept. 11 calling on people to “support our troops” uses a stock photo of Russian-made fighter jets and weapons.
The jets are Mig-29s and one of the soldiers is carrying an AK-47.  How much more evidence does anyone need to prove that Trump is in Putin's back pocket?

No way
Serious or propoganda fakenews?

Serious. You just can't make this stuff up. 

After this story was published, the creator of the image, Arthur Zakirov, confirmed in a Facebook message that it shows a 3D model of a MiG-29, and that the soldiers were Russian models. He said it was a composite photo created five years ago and taken in three different countries showing Russian sky, Greek mountains and French ground.

“This is a completely recreated scene from various photographs of mine,” said Zakirov, a 34-year-old oil company analyst and hobbyist photographer based in the Russian city of Perm, about 700 miles east of Moscow.

“Today you hear about the Kremlin’s hand in U.S. politics. Tomorrow you are this hand,” he joked, saying he found the fact that his photo ended up in a Trump fundraising ad “pretty funny.”



Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18914 on: September 15, 2020, 06:07:46 AM »
Aaah facebook news.
Unfortunately ill need something a bit more substantiated.

Re: Why do you support donald trump
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18918 on: September 15, 2020, 01:47:54 PM »
Makes you realize that the campaign is just as lazy as anyone else.
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Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18920 on: September 15, 2020, 10:39:42 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-support-our-troops-ad-uses-russian-made-jets-2020-9%3famp


Aahaha

Apparently its a stock image on shutterstock.
Looks like others have used that image as well:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4692218/US-military-use-biosensors-create-superhuman-soldiers.html
https://northstarstampingandtool.com/stampings-for-military-applications/
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/livingston/sections/education/articles/livingston-s-minseo-yang-accepted-to-united-states-military-academy
https://www.kinston.com/news/20190409/candidates-talk-support-for-military

The image on Shutterstock:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/military-silhouettes-soldiers-airforce-against-backdrop-400783420

It's a nice pic, so no issue with that - but they should have removed the soldiers+jets to the right and left so that you can only see 3 and not parts of the others.
They also should have chosen a pic with American jets and American soldiers with American weapons.  Because, you know, they want us to support American troops.

In fairness, they probably wanted it done quick, cheap, and by an intern.  So stock photos by someone who can't tell the difference it is.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18921 on: September 15, 2020, 11:03:35 PM »

In fairness, they probably wanted it done quick, cheap, and by an intern.  So stock photos by someone who can't tell the difference it is.

Maybe they're just fucking with you.
Like . . . "hey, watch this dude nut up."   Hahahahaha

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18922 on: September 16, 2020, 04:18:48 AM »

In fairness, they probably wanted it done quick, cheap, and by an intern.  So stock photos by someone who can't tell the difference it is.

Maybe they're just fucking with you.
Like . . . "hey, watch this dude nut up."   Hahahahaha

Nah man.  They're ANTIFA.  They infultrated Trump's campaign design team to make Trump look bad and promote communism.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18923 on: September 16, 2020, 06:40:35 AM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-support-our-troops-ad-uses-russian-made-jets-2020-9%3famp


Aahaha

Apparently its a stock image on shutterstock.
Looks like others have used that image as well:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4692218/US-military-use-biosensors-create-superhuman-soldiers.html
https://northstarstampingandtool.com/stampings-for-military-applications/
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/livingston/sections/education/articles/livingston-s-minseo-yang-accepted-to-united-states-military-academy
https://www.kinston.com/news/20190409/candidates-talk-support-for-military

The image on Shutterstock:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/military-silhouettes-soldiers-airforce-against-backdrop-400783420

It's a nice pic, so no issue with that - but they should have removed the soldiers+jets to the right and left so that you can only see 3 and not parts of the others.
They also should have chosen a pic with American jets and American soldiers with American weapons.  Because, you know, they want us to support American troops.

In fairness, they probably wanted it done quick, cheap, and by an intern.  So stock photos by someone who can't tell the difference it is.
Shutterstock could have done a better job of labeling the pic as well.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18924 on: September 16, 2020, 09:56:19 AM »

In fairness, they probably wanted it done quick, cheap, and by an intern.  So stock photos by someone who can't tell the difference it is.

Maybe they're just fucking with you.
Like . . . "hey, watch this dude nut up."   Hahahahaha

People who can crop an image so it doesn’t slice through the subjects are the next target in the culture war.

Having some idea what looks shit and what doesn’t is unamerican!

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18925 on: September 17, 2020, 01:50:19 PM »
On Trumps fashion choices. We gotta talk about that tie



Why does a billionaire not have a fashionable tie pin and instead uses some cheap scotch tape lol

And here he is always having the damn thing hang over his crotch


Has no one pulled him up on how sloppy and embarrassing he looks? Is he so surrounded by yes men they are afraid to tell him he looks shite?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18926 on: September 17, 2020, 04:37:05 PM »
He thinks it makes him look thinner.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18927 on: September 17, 2020, 04:53:41 PM »
Russians are the ones pushing the Joe Biden dementia narrative...   Sadly it seems to be working in the more gullible parts of the electorate.

https://www.msnbc.com/ayman-mohyeldin/watch/fbi-director-says-russia-trying-primarily-to-denigrate-biden-in-election-interference-91996229997


Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18928 on: September 17, 2020, 07:05:50 PM »
Where do I have to go to be influenced by Russia?

Did any of you know, at the time, you're being influenced by the fucking Russians?
Did any of you need to be told you were being influenced?
Did any of you figure this out on your own?

Seriously, raise your hand and proclaim you were influenced. 

Do you have a measurable I.Q.?






Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #18929 on: September 17, 2020, 07:23:18 PM »
Good point, winkle.
Russias meddling is basically them funding free advertising towards a particular party.
Whootydoo.
But
Russias infleunce and control over this WH is something to be concerned about over policy, alliances, and troop movement
Ha.