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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
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Free trade is bad
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He is the wild card we need
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15660 on: August 24, 2019, 12:42:58 AM »
Quote from: Crouton on August 24, 2019, 12:20:22 AM

Biden.  Less insane or more insane?

Biden would answer "both".
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15661 on: August 24, 2019, 07:48:43 AM »
Back on the Sean Spicer/DWTS thingie, a Queer Eye actor said he love to sit down and have some good conversations with Spicer and he got so much backlash he deleted his twitter and apologized.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/karamo-brown-deletes-twitter-after-saying-hes-excited-to-sit-down-with-controversial-dwts-costar-sean-spicer/ar-AAGeAZH?ocid=spartanntp
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15662 on: August 24, 2019, 08:09:08 AM »
I heard a commentator talk about the call to boycott the show.

He said something like, "Have you seen their ratings? People have been boycotting for a while."
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15663 on: August 24, 2019, 08:18:36 AM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 24, 2019, 08:09:08 AM
I heard a commentator talk about the call to boycott the show.

He said something like, "Have you seen their ratings? People have been boycotting for a while."

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15664 on: August 24, 2019, 08:38:04 AM »
Quote from: Crouton on August 24, 2019, 12:20:22 AM

Alright.  Let's go down the list with the frontrunner.

Biden.  Less insane or more insane?

Biden.   --  I don't see him getting any better,  just not inspiring as a leader.
Sanders-- No,  just no,  too socialist.
Warren  -- Likely to mobilize opinion against big money and corruption,  She's a good chance.
Harris   --  Don't have a strong opinion.

Klobuchar  -- Fair chance if given the opportunity

The others,  I don't rate much chance. 

I think a Warren/Klobuchar ticket would be a winner.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15665 on: August 24, 2019, 08:39:39 AM »
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Quote from: Crouton on August 24, 2019, 12:20:22 AM

Alright.  Let's go down the list with the frontrunner.

Biden.  Less insane or more insane?

Biden.   --  I don't see him getting any better,  just not inspiring as a leader.
Sanders-- No,  just no,  too socialist.
Warren  -- Likely to mobilize opinion against big money and corruption,  She's a good chance.
Harris   --  Don't have a strong opinion.

Klobuchar  -- Fair chance if given the opportunity

The others,  I don't rate much chance. 

I think a Warren/Klobuchar ticket would be a winner.

Will Warren get the native American vote though?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15666 on: August 24, 2019, 08:46:07 AM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15667 on: August 24, 2019, 08:49:41 AM »
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Will Warren get the native American vote though?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-native-american-proposal

Yes.

I probably have about as much native American in me as she does; can I claim to be native American and get benefits?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15668 on: August 24, 2019, 08:57:37 AM »
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Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on August 24, 2019, 08:39:39 AM
Will Warren get the native American vote though?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-native-american-proposal

Yes.

I probably have about as much native American in me as she does; can I claim to be native American and get benefits?

Does she get benefits?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15669 on: August 24, 2019, 09:00:06 AM »
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Will Warren get the native American vote though?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-native-american-proposal

Yes.

I probably have about as much native American in me as she does; can I claim to be native American and get benefits?

Does she get benefits?

Whether she did or not, she still tried to.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15670 on: August 24, 2019, 09:06:18 AM »
Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on August 24, 2019, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: JerkFace on August 24, 2019, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on August 24, 2019, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: JerkFace on August 24, 2019, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on August 24, 2019, 08:39:39 AM
Will Warren get the native American vote though?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-native-american-proposal

Yes.

I probably have about as much native American in me as she does; can I claim to be native American and get benefits?

Does she get benefits?

Whether she did or not, she still tried to.

So no benefits for you either it seems.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15671 on: August 24, 2019, 09:12:58 AM »
I've said this lots of times already, but most white people from Oklahoma think they've got NA ancestry. My own family thought so, I grew up thinking so, but it wasn't a huge part of our family story as Warren's was. The bigger part of our family story is that we are kin to a notorious outlaw, lol.

It also baffles me that Trump fans care so much about this, when they don't care at all that Trump faked bone spurs to dodge the draft, he ripped off his employees, he filed bankruptcy several times for profit, he's a fake Christian, etc etc.

Trump lies all the time, no problem. Warren mistakenly believes her family story, unforgivable.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15672 on: August 24, 2019, 09:13:36 AM »
Quote from: JerkFace on August 24, 2019, 09:06:18 AM
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Quote from: JerkFace on August 24, 2019, 08:57:37 AM
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Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on August 24, 2019, 08:39:39 AM
Will Warren get the native American vote though?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-native-american-proposal

Yes.

I probably have about as much native American in me as she does; can I claim to be native American and get benefits?

Does she get benefits?

Whether she did or not, she still tried to.

So no benefits for you either it seems.

I should do a DNA test to see if there's any African American in me. Maybe I could get on welfare or something.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15673 on: August 24, 2019, 09:16:14 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 09:12:58 AM
I've said this lots of times already, but most white people from Oklahoma think they've got NA ancestry. My own family thought so, I grew up thinking so, but it wasn't a huge part of our family story as Warren's was. The bigger part of our family story is that we are kin to a notorious outlaw, lol.

It also baffles me that Trump fans care so much about this, when they don't care at all that Trump faked bone spurs to dodge the draft, he ripped off his employees, he filed bankruptcy several times for profit, he's a fake Christian, etc etc.

Trump lies all the time, no problem. Warren mistakenly believes her family story, unforgivable.

I was intentionally blowing it out of proportion. If I had to choose one of the Dem candidates, I wouldn't know who to pick.

Oh, and stop with the Whataboutism ;) :P
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15674 on: August 24, 2019, 09:16:23 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 09:12:58 AM
I've said this lots of times already, but most white people from Oklahoma think they've got NA ancestry. My own family thought so, I grew up thinking so, but it wasn't a huge part of our family story as Warren's was. The bigger part of our family story is that we are kin to a notorious outlaw, lol.

It also baffles me that Trump fans care so much about this, when they don't care at all that Trump faked bone spurs to dodge the draft, he ripped off his employees, he filed bankruptcy several times for profit, he's a fake Christian, etc etc.

Trump lies all the time, no problem. Warren mistakenly believes her family story, unforgivable.

Funny thing about that is the "Pocohontas" attack is at it's heart a racist epithet, that will come back and bit Trump in the ass if he thinks it will hurt Warrren,  I suspect it will help her.

All she has to do is embrace the label, and then go on to explain that Trump is an asshole, and then launch into  "here's my plan to help native americans".  LOL
 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15675 on: August 24, 2019, 09:28:18 AM »
Question:
If Trump loses and "suggests" it was a conspiracy and his followers need to do something "Drastic" who here would start overthrowing the government/liberals/democrats?
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« Reply #15676 on: August 24, 2019, 09:36:04 AM »
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Question:
If Trump loses and "suggests" it was a conspiracy and his followers need to do something "Drastic" who here would start overthrowing the government/liberals/democrats?

I'm all for overthrowing the government no matter who is power.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15677 on: August 24, 2019, 09:42:30 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 09:12:58 AM
I've said this lots of times already, but most white people from Oklahoma think they've got NA ancestry. My own family thought so, I grew up thinking so, but it wasn't a huge part of our family story as Warren's was. The bigger part of our family story is that we are kin to a notorious outlaw, lol.


It's totally understandable that a lot of people would be mistaken about their heritage.  We sort of get these stories from our parents and our parents are often morons.  For the longest time I thought I was half Irish.  Then I actually did some research.  Nope.  Almost all English.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15678 on: August 24, 2019, 09:44:02 AM »
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Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 09:12:58 AM
I've said this lots of times already, but most white people from Oklahoma think they've got NA ancestry. My own family thought so, I grew up thinking so, but it wasn't a huge part of our family story as Warren's was. The bigger part of our family story is that we are kin to a notorious outlaw, lol.


It's totally understandable that a lot of people would be mistaken about their heritage.  We sort of get these stories from our parents and our parents are often morons.  For the longest time I thought I was half Irish.  Then I actually did some research.  Nope.  Almost all English.

Whitey ;)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15679 on: August 24, 2019, 09:56:40 AM »
Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on August 24, 2019, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 09:12:58 AM
I've said this lots of times already, but most white people from Oklahoma think they've got NA ancestry. My own family thought so, I grew up thinking so, but it wasn't a huge part of our family story as Warren's was. The bigger part of our family story is that we are kin to a notorious outlaw, lol.

It also baffles me that Trump fans care so much about this, when they don't care at all that Trump faked bone spurs to dodge the draft, he ripped off his employees, he filed bankruptcy several times for profit, he's a fake Christian, etc etc.

Trump lies all the time, no problem. Warren mistakenly believes her family story, unforgivable.

I was intentionally blowing it out of proportion. If I had to choose one of the Dem candidates, I wouldn't know who to pick.

Oh, and stop with the Whataboutism ;) :P

That's not whataboutism, you nerd. You didn't make an argument to refute. I pointed out that you, and many others, hold Trump's opponents to a higher standard than you do Trump.

In looking over Warren's history, her achievements, the things she has championed in her life, I wonder why it is she is not admired by conservatives? She didn't come from wealth, but has amassed wealth. She got married and had kids. She's Christian. She has fought for the working class. (By "conservatives" I mean the regular people, not the politicians) I guess it's the same reason regular working people do not want Wall Street regulations?

As someone who has political opinions that sometimes agree with the left, and sometimes agree with the right, I can understand the criticisms aimed at the left. There's a lot of batshittery on the left. I don't even really know what Conservatives stand for anymore, though. It used to be for old fashioned values, for working your way up in the world, for family, etc. Now it just seems to be for liberal tears and other trollish nonsense.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15680 on: August 24, 2019, 09:59:19 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 09:56:40 AM
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Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 09:12:58 AM
I've said this lots of times already, but most white people from Oklahoma think they've got NA ancestry. My own family thought so, I grew up thinking so, but it wasn't a huge part of our family story as Warren's was. The bigger part of our family story is that we are kin to a notorious outlaw, lol.

It also baffles me that Trump fans care so much about this, when they don't care at all that Trump faked bone spurs to dodge the draft, he ripped off his employees, he filed bankruptcy several times for profit, he's a fake Christian, etc etc.

Trump lies all the time, no problem. Warren mistakenly believes her family story, unforgivable.

I was intentionally blowing it out of proportion. If I had to choose one of the Dem candidates, I wouldn't know who to pick.

Oh, and stop with the Whataboutism ;) :P

That's not whataboutism, you nerd. You didn't make an argument to refute. I pointed out that you, and many others, hold Trump's opponents to a higher standard than you do Trump.

In looking over Warren's history, her achievements, the things she has championed in her life, I wonder why it is she is not admired by conservatives? She didn't come from wealth, but has amassed wealth. She got married and had kids. She's Christian. She has fought for the working class. (By "conservatives" I mean the regular people, not the politicians) I guess it's the same reason regular working people do not want Wall Street regulations?

As someone who has political opinions that sometimes agree with the left, and sometimes agree with the right, I can understand the criticisms aimed at the left. There's a lot of batshittery on the left. I don't even really know what Conservatives stand for anymore, though. It used to be for old fashioned values, for working your way up in the world, for family, etc. Now it just seems to be for liberal tears and other trollish nonsense.

I stand for old fashioned values, working for what you have, family, etc.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15681 on: August 24, 2019, 10:17:32 AM »
Okay, my question now is why do you support Trump? He doesn't stand for any of that.
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« Reply #15682 on: August 24, 2019, 10:21:22 AM »
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Okay, my question now is why do you support Trump? He doesn't stand for any of that.

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« Reply #15683 on: August 24, 2019, 10:22:02 AM »
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Okay, my question now is why do you support Trump? He doesn't stand for any of that.

Because Fox News told me to.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15684 on: August 24, 2019, 10:54:34 AM »
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Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 10:17:32 AM
Okay, my question now is why do you support Trump? He doesn't stand for any of that.

Because Fox News told me to.

No, I'm serious. I can't ask these questions of the Trump supporters irl, because they are my relatives and I don't want to be dis-invited to the reunions. lol

Trump doesn't seem to have any of the values conservatives hold dear. I really want to know why he has your support. He doesn't deserve it. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15685 on: August 24, 2019, 01:03:20 PM »
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Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 10:17:32 AM
Okay, my question now is why do you support Trump? He doesn't stand for any of that.

Because Fox News told me to.

No, I'm serious. I can't ask these questions of the Trump supporters irl, because they are my relatives and I don't want to be dis-invited to the reunions. lol

Trump doesn't seem to have any of the values conservatives hold dear. I really want to know why he has your support. He doesn't deserve it.

Isn't it obvious?
1. He's the only choice.
2. Hate > any other value.  Seriously, hate brings people together.  A black and a white supremesist will work together if they have a common enemy (ex: Mexicans). The Trump is aaalll about the hate.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15686 on: August 24, 2019, 09:03:00 PM »
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Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 24, 2019, 10:17:32 AM
Okay, my question now is why do you support Trump? He doesn't stand for any of that.

Because Fox News told me to.

No, I'm serious. I can't ask these questions of the Trump supporters irl, because they are my relatives and I don't want to be dis-invited to the reunions. lol

Trump doesn't seem to have any of the values conservatives hold dear. I really want to know why he has your support. He doesn't deserve it.

After upwards of 15,000 replies,  to the question,  "Fox News told me"  is probably closer to the truth than anything else so far. 

I know wesker was trying to be cute with his answer, but sadly it's the truth for a lot of Trump supporters.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15687 on: August 25, 2019, 06:39:20 AM »
I'm more interested in hearing from Wesker about his own opinion than I am in hearing from vocal Trump opponents and their assumptions about Wesker. Can't you see that's part of the problem we have with political discourse right now?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15688 on: August 25, 2019, 09:45:19 AM »
Hey CFC: ya have alot of choices.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries

Over 100 people are running against Trump on paper.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #15689 on: August 25, 2019, 09:53:34 AM »
Quote from: Lorddave on August 25, 2019, 09:45:19 AM
Hey CFC: ya have alot of choices.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries

Over 100 people are running against Trump on paper.

Yes, but did you not read when I said they won't have a chance if the RNC doesn't back them?
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