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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7590 on: February 23, 2018, 04:59:23 AM »
That argument is bunk, as the weapons of the state improved the weapons of the people would also improve.

I don't think that's relevant...

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What good is an armed population with muskets against an oppressive government with Automatic weapons?

What good is an armed population with automatic weapons against an oppressive government with drones? I really don't think that was the real point of the second amendment. The whole thing sounds like a fantasy anyways. The issue is that laws to help people in a theoretical fantasy scenario are harming real people in the present.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7591 on: February 23, 2018, 05:07:03 AM »
User what happens to people without guns that stand up to people with guns?


You tell me. Didn't Australia take away everyone's guns? Are you now under a dictatorial regime?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7592 on: February 23, 2018, 05:09:07 AM »
That argument is bunk, as the weapons of the state improved the weapons of the people would also improve.

I don't think that's relevant...

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What good is an armed population with muskets against an oppressive government with Automatic weapons?

What good is an armed population with automatic weapons against an oppressive government with drones? I really don't think that was the real point of the second amendment. The whole thing sounds like a fantasy anyways. The issue is that laws to help people in a theoretical fantasy scenario are harming real people in the present.

Because drones can't enforce a police state. They need police for that. Or AI, that's why AI scares me so much.

User what happens to people without guns that stand up to people with guns?
You tell me. Didn't Australia take away everyone's guns? Are you now under a dictatorial regime?

Yes, yours, the international bankers who own your """democracy""". Australians have fought and died in fifteen years of illegal wars for you.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7593 on: February 23, 2018, 05:23:01 AM »

User what happens to people without guns that stand up to people with guns?
You tell me. Didn't Australia take away everyone's guns? Are you now under a dictatorial regime?

Yes, yours, the international bankers who own your """democracy""". Australians have fought and died in fifteen years of illegal wars for you.

So let me get this straight, because the citizens of Australia didn't have firearms the United States, a totally different country, pressed them into military service?  This theory doesn't seem 100% sound to me.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7594 on: February 23, 2018, 05:31:46 AM »
You asked if we were under a dictatorial regime. We are, the same one you're under. We no longer have a say in who we go to war with, neither do you. That is decided by international bankers.

Taking the ability of the population to defend themselves against their governments isn't my cup of tea but I understand you are all for it.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7595 on: February 23, 2018, 05:41:23 AM »
You asked if we were under a dictatorial regime. We are, the same one you're under. We no longer have a say in who we go to war with, neither do you. That is decided by international bankers.

So the US, which has guns, is being oppressed?  Then we oppress the Australians, who don't have guns, into fighting wars where we then give them guns but they're still oppressed?  I don't think this whole having guns thing is working as well as you think it should when it comes to resisting the government.

Taking the ability of the population to defend themselves against their governments isn't my cup of tea but I understand you are all for it.

I'm not all for it.  I just want a sane balance struck.  From where I stand your lack of mass murders looks pretty freaking sweet.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7596 on: February 23, 2018, 07:17:13 AM »
Comedy gold, cuckservatives invent false crisis of narcissistic president with 45 embroidered, get other cuckservatives mad, blame libtards. You wanna talk about not falling for obvious shilling, yet fall for that level of shit.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7597 on: February 23, 2018, 03:08:16 PM »
That post doesn't make sense Duck.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7598 on: February 23, 2018, 03:14:27 PM »
I understood it! The right wingnuts made a big deal out of the 45 and blamed it on the libtards.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7599 on: February 23, 2018, 03:19:21 PM »
Was the '45' supposed to be a gun reference?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7600 on: February 23, 2018, 03:26:36 PM »
Malt liquor, imo. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7601 on: February 23, 2018, 03:27:49 PM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7602 on: February 23, 2018, 06:42:00 PM »
Malt liquor, imo.

Wow cool,  combines guns and  liquor,  there's a winning combination.


Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7603 on: February 24, 2018, 11:04:19 AM »
The new withholding tables from Trump's tax cuts are in effect.

I'm getting an extra $200 a paycheck, not too bad.

Warren Buffet gets an extra 29 billion.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/02/24/warren-buffett-balked-big-acquisitions-2017-because-high-prices/366916002/

And a few of my relatives who live on food stamps are worried about getting their support cut down to pay for this legislative pornography.

#maga!
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7604 on: February 24, 2018, 02:01:21 PM »
#ReleaseTheMemo part deux

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4387022-Democrats-memo-rebutting-Republican-claims-of.html

It's only ten pages. It's worth reading.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7605 on: February 24, 2018, 04:15:34 PM »
It's only ten pages. It's worth reading.

If you make up shit to fill in the redacted parts it's pretty entertaining.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7606 on: February 24, 2018, 05:09:44 PM »
#ReleaseTheMemo part deux

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4387022-Democrats-memo-rebutting-Republican-claims-of.html

It's only ten pages. It's worth reading.

I wonder what parts of the Steele Dossier they confirmed?   

The bit about Putin having "buyers remorse"?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7607 on: February 25, 2018, 05:20:04 PM »
Nunes got an award at CPAC,  for something that seems to be regarded as criminal?

http://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex-witt/watch/trump-calls-democratic-memo-a-bust-is-it-1170100291657

Will we hear them chanting "Lock him up" in Fresno?

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7608 on: February 25, 2018, 07:43:46 PM »

Will we hear them chanting "Lock him up" in Fresno?


If we do, it will be in Spanish.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7609 on: February 26, 2018, 03:08:53 PM »
It's only ten pages. It's worth reading.

If you make up shit to fill in the redacted parts it's pretty entertaining.

Oh, I love this game! Here's the first page:

1. "Lordy", said Comey about
2. no homo
3. We were able to track down three microwaves with contemporaneous knowledge of the meeting.
4. this dude shady as hell, yo.
5. will spawn two novels, a movie, and thirty thousand pages of fanfiction.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7610 on: February 27, 2018, 12:41:35 AM »
Trump has gone closer than anyone to going full JFK except JFK. I am still giving him the benefit of the doubt.

(First 21 seconds.)


Nowhere near as eloquent or detailed as JFK but he knows. It's hard to demand more out of him when I know what the sacrifice would be he is making. Maybe playing a slow game is better than going full JFK in six months.

(God-bless you JFK.)
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7611 on: February 27, 2018, 02:09:48 PM »
https://politics.theonion.com/national-security-council-distracted-by-whimpering-jare-1823340346

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43216602

Let us take a moment to feel sorry for The Onion as they struggle to be more ridiculous than reality.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7612 on: February 27, 2018, 05:20:43 PM »
Apparently a story came out of Trump stopping a mugging in 1991. He ordered his limo to stop and went to confront the mugger, then conversed for a second and the mugger ran off.

Combine that with when his stage was breached during his campaign a few times, and every time, he went towards the threat.

Can't call the guy ball less...don't know what he would do during a fire fight, but these are signs he is an alpha and not afraid.
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Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7614 on: February 28, 2018, 12:08:25 AM »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7616 on: February 28, 2018, 12:26:17 AM »
but these are signs he is an alpha and not afraid.
Cringe.

The guy has lived heavily protected for his entire life. He probably doesn't even understand what danger is.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7617 on: February 28, 2018, 12:33:18 AM »
but these are signs he is an alpha and not afraid.
Cringe.

The guy has lived heavily protected for his entire life. He probably doesn't even understand what danger is.

I could make a similar comment about your life experience.

Early 20s.
Straight from highschool to uni.
Still studying at uni while living at home.
Global Socialist beliefs.

The argument could be made that you don't undertand what the real world is.

I wouldn't, I think you're pretty smart if only a little bit naive.

I think Trump has massive balls personally, like him or not he doesn't take shit. I like that.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7618 on: February 28, 2018, 12:59:30 AM »
Lol you don't really know my life experience because I don't reveal a big part of these things, and a couple of the things you said are just wrong. I never really said I wasn't "protected", but I also both know people who grew up like Trump, as well as people on the exact opposite end. I guess it comes with being somewhere in the middle. I also experienced the economy of a country falling apart rapidly. Believe me, seeing everyone in the world get disillusioned all at once, losing their job, not being able to pay off loans and rents, having to reconsider every plan they made and finally being unable to sustain their families, when a couple of years ago they were getting raises, is a serious "real world experience". My family's income decreased by about 60% in a few years and at some point my mother temporarily lost her job, and we were seen as "fortunate" because my parents were careful enough not to have taken loans. So in that at least I can say I'm more in touch than Trump and his elite circlejerk.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #7619 on: February 28, 2018, 01:03:14 AM »
I pay more attention than most people give me credit for, I didn't mean it as a personal attack, just an observation.

I'm very sorry for what happened to Greece, you know the bankers I so often call out are responsible for the economy?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.