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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5610 on: December 23, 2017, 08:51:33 AM »
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the bill will explode the deficit by an additional trillion dollars per decade.
Don't worry, they will cut medicare, social security, infrastructure...
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5611 on: December 23, 2017, 08:53:26 AM »
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the bill will explode the deficit by an additional trillion dollars per decade.
Don't worry, they will cut medicare, social security, infrastructure...
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5612 on: December 23, 2017, 02:05:38 PM »
Quote from: FalseProphet on December 23, 2017, 08:51:33 AM
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the bill will explode the deficit by an additional trillion dollars per decade.
Don't worry, they will cut medicare, social security, infrastructure...
They'll have to double cut though, make up for current deficit and future deficit.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5613 on: December 23, 2017, 03:09:16 PM »
What of we just stopped funding Israel's wars?

Gotta be like 20 trillion to save there.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5614 on: December 23, 2017, 03:22:56 PM »
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the bill will explode the deficit by an additional trillion dollars per decade.
Don't worry, they will cut medicare, social security, infrastructure...
They'll have to double cut though, make up for current deficit and future deficit.

That's the genius of cutting things like foodstamps and medical care.  The problem, um, takes care of itself. 

Yeah there's kind of a dark side to running a country like a business.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5615 on: December 23, 2017, 03:49:58 PM »
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the bill will explode the deficit by an additional trillion dollars per decade.
Don't worry, they will cut medicare, social security, infrastructure...
They'll have to double cut though, make up for current deficit and future deficit.

That's the genius of cutting things like foodstamps and medical care.  The problem, um, takes care of itself. 

Yeah there's kind of a dark side to running a country like a business.

Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.   That's not looking good for the future of America's finances.

It's also becoming clear that there is evidence that he was laundering Russian Mob money through his real estate business.  And Russian government banks hold the loan guarantees for the money the Trump family businesses owe.

Putin OWNS Trump  literally.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5616 on: December 25, 2017, 12:02:28 PM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5617 on: December 25, 2017, 05:51:36 PM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5618 on: December 25, 2017, 10:59:41 PM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5619 on: December 25, 2017, 11:04:16 PM »
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Quote from: Rayzor on December 23, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5620 on: December 26, 2017, 12:45:06 AM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.

Care to point out the parts you think are inaccurate.   

Putin does indeed own Trump.   
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5621 on: December 26, 2017, 12:48:25 AM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.

Care to point out the parts you think are inaccurate.   

Putin does indeed own Trump.
Are you stupid or something?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5622 on: December 26, 2017, 12:48:41 AM »
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Quote from: Rayzor on December 23, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

He's a con man.  Doesn't pay his subcontractors.   No one would even loan him a penny except Deutsche bank..  I wonder why?

http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/29/donald-trump-russia-secret-deutsche-bank-753780.html
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5623 on: December 26, 2017, 12:49:39 AM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.

Care to point out the parts you think are inaccurate.   

Putin does indeed own Trump.
Are you stupid or something?

LOL. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5624 on: December 26, 2017, 12:53:08 AM »
It's just baffling to me that any Scandinavian, or indeed any European, could actually still be defending Trump at this point.

It's so fucking stupid that I'm just gonna write it off as obvious trolling.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5625 on: December 26, 2017, 07:23:57 AM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.

Care to point out the parts you think are inaccurate.   

Putin does indeed own Trump.

Perhaps I should have said or instead of and. Just like you should have said some instead of all.

At any rate, your post kind of reminded me of a Trump tweet. Sure, there are elements of truth in it, but it's exaggerated in order to emphasize your POV.

If you don't like Trump, then don't be like him.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5626 on: December 26, 2017, 09:55:25 AM »
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Quote from: Rayzor on December 23, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

For once I agree with you. Seriously Rayzor get help.

He was loaned a few million, now worth billions. That certainly isn't​ "every project went bankrupt"..

There are some deals I can list that did him very very well, and actually showed very good business sense.

Trump, in the investor world would be called a home run hitter, he is always going for the moon. Where someone like Cuban plays it safe and steadily increases. Trump increases in large lumps.

However, home run hitters, some years they can't be stopped, other years they lead the league in strikeouts. So yes, some things went belly up while other things exploded. He was also one of the few that saw a market in new York that others didn't.

However, any serious investor rather they play it safe or shoot for the moon will have bad deals...just the way it is.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5627 on: December 26, 2017, 10:24:34 AM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5628 on: December 26, 2017, 03:26:06 PM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

For once I agree with you. Seriously Rayzor get help.

He was loaned a few million, now worth billions. That certainly isn't​ "every project went bankrupt"..

There are some deals I can list that did him very very well, and actually showed very good business sense.

Trump, in the investor world would be called a home run hitter, he is always going for the moon. Where someone like Cuban plays it safe and steadily increases. Trump increases in large lumps.

However, home run hitters, some years they can't be stopped, other years they lead the league in strikeouts. So yes, some things went belly up while other things exploded. He was also one of the few that saw a market in new York that others didn't.

However, any serious investor rather they play it safe or shoot for the moon will have bad deals...just the way it is.

You should do some research,  he made money by conning investors and not paying subcontractors, then when it all went south he started laundering money for the New York Mob and the Russian Mob through real-estate deals,  when no reputable banker would lend him a penny he got a deal with Deutsche Bank backed by Russian/Kremlin Guarantees,  they funded and orchestrated a massive social media campaign to smear Clinton, and promote division along racial and ethnic lines, which the US is still suffering from.  By exploiting those divisions through clever use of social media they got him elected president.

The American people are starting to wake up to how badly they have been conned.    Pity so many are too dumb to see what's happened. 

Bookmark this post, and come back in a year or so, let's see how accurate it turns out.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5629 on: December 26, 2017, 03:30:18 PM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.

Care to point out the parts you think are inaccurate.   

Putin does indeed own Trump.

Perhaps I should have said or instead of and. Just like you should have said some instead of all.

At any rate, your post kind of reminded me of a Trump tweet. Sure, there are elements of truth in it, but it's exaggerated in order to emphasize your POV.

If you don't like Trump, then don't be like him.

Ok, since you failed to point out the inaccuracies,  ( they have now become magically exaggerations ),  would care to point out where I have exaggerated?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5630 on: December 26, 2017, 03:53:41 PM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.

Care to point out the parts you think are inaccurate.   

Putin does indeed own Trump.

Perhaps I should have said or instead of and. Just like you should have said some instead of all.

At any rate, your post kind of reminded me of a Trump tweet. Sure, there are elements of truth in it, but it's exaggerated in order to emphasize your POV.

If you don't like Trump, then don't be like him.

Ok, since you failed to point out the inaccuracies,  ( they have now become magically exaggerations ),  would care to point out where I have exaggerated?

They didn't magically become exaggerations - it contained at least one inaccuracy and more biased exaggerations. Kind of similar to the kind of thing Trump tweets all the time.

No I am not going to point them out. You know what they are.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5631 on: December 26, 2017, 03:59:20 PM »
Hey, at least 1/3 of his businesses didn't fail!
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5632 on: December 26, 2017, 04:02:46 PM »
Perhaps it's fair to say that none of them truly failed as long as he can reintroduce them during his presidency.

I know he hasn't exactly done that yet but there's still time.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5633 on: December 26, 2017, 04:10:04 PM »
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The American people are starting to wake up to how badly they have been conned.    Pity so many are too dumb to see what's happened. 


Why was everyone fooled but you?
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« Reply #5634 on: December 26, 2017, 04:11:24 PM »
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Quote from: Rayzor on December 26, 2017, 03:26:06 PM

The American people are starting to wake up to how badly they have been conned.    Pity so many are too dumb to see what's happened. 


Why was everyone fooled but you?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5635 on: December 26, 2017, 04:26:24 PM »
Most voters weren't conned, but he won anyway.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5636 on: December 26, 2017, 05:18:47 PM »
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Quote from: Rayzor on December 26, 2017, 03:26:06 PM

The American people are starting to wake up to how badly they have been conned.    Pity so many are too dumb to see what's happened. 


Why was everyone fooled but you?

The majority of Americans weren't fooled.  But enough were.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5637 on: December 26, 2017, 05:21:14 PM »
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Well, since you bring it up, all his previous business dealings went bankrupt.
That's a lie.

I was going to point out that his entire post was inaccurate, hyperbolic and heavily biased - much like most of the stuff Trump says and/or tweets.

Care to point out the parts you think are inaccurate.   

Putin does indeed own Trump.

Perhaps I should have said or instead of and. Just like you should have said some instead of all.

At any rate, your post kind of reminded me of a Trump tweet. Sure, there are elements of truth in it, but it's exaggerated in order to emphasize your POV.

If you don't like Trump, then don't be like him.

Ok, since you failed to point out the inaccuracies,  ( they have now become magically exaggerations ),  would care to point out where I have exaggerated?

They didn't magically become exaggerations - it contained at least one inaccuracy and more biased exaggerations. Kind of similar to the kind of thing Trump tweets all the time.

No I am not going to point them out. You know what they are.

Ok, what was inaccurate?   The comment about his repeated bankruptcies and conning investors out of their money?   Or the money laundering?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5638 on: December 26, 2017, 05:26:06 PM »
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The American people are starting to wake up to how badly they have been conned.    Pity so many are too dumb to see what's happened. 


Why was everyone fooled but you?

The majority of Americans weren't fooled.  But enough were.


Can you think of any other reason?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #5639 on: December 26, 2017, 05:53:56 PM »
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The American people are starting to wake up to how badly they have been conned.    Pity so many are too dumb to see what's happened. 


Why was everyone fooled but you?

The majority of Americans weren't fooled.  But enough were.


Can you think of any other reason?

He's a very good showman,  and a lot of people wanted a maverick "non-politician" who would "drain the swamp"  and "make america great again"

You can't blame people for being conned,  but now that it's obvious he's lied his way into office, and installed his own menagerie of swamp creatures, if should becoming obvious, they got taken for a ride.

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