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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
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I want him to fight terrorism
11 (14.7%)
Free trade is bad
5 (6.7%)
He is the wild card we need
39 (52%)

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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #600 on: May 18, 2017, 12:28:10 AM »
None of you are qualified to make a diagnosis.
It's just your personal opinion backed and bolstered by fake knowledge.

None of you armchair psychiatrists have ever read a single actual textbook on the subject,
yet, you sputter inane shit like a common talk show host.

Pathetic. (probably a disorder.)

The MSM has told them it's the right thing to do...
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #601 on: May 18, 2017, 12:46:10 AM »
dissypussy, is it really so inconceivable for you, that people may get their information from a variety of sources and develop the ability to compare and evaluate them? And that some of us just call a chicken a bird, because a chickens happens to be a bird?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #602 on: May 18, 2017, 12:47:48 AM »
Desperate name calling and strawman argument.

You are 100% correct, a chicken is indeed a type of bird.

Very good.
Have a star.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #603 on: May 18, 2017, 12:52:44 AM »

You are 100% correct, a chicken is indeed a type of bird.

Very good.
Have a star.


Ok. Let us start from here.

Imagine the Washington Post would claim:

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Chickens are birds!

Would that turn chickens into non-birds?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #604 on: May 18, 2017, 01:11:11 AM »
Another mediocre strawman.

You could actually use a few pointers.

Chickens are classified as birds whether or not the news reports it as true or untrue.

Have another star.


This is an orange.

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For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #605 on: May 18, 2017, 01:13:47 AM »
None of you are qualified to make a diagnosis.
It's just your personal opinion backed and bolstered by fake knowledge.

None of you armchair psychiatrists have ever read a single actual textbook on the subject,
yet, you sputter inane shit like a common talk show host.

Pathetic. (probably a disorder.)

The MSM has told them it's the right thing to do...


Feelings are now more important than facts.
I think I'll go make a cardboard sign and then light someone's car on fire.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #606 on: May 18, 2017, 01:16:33 AM »
Feelings are now more important than facts.

Quoted for truth and wisdom.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #607 on: May 18, 2017, 01:27:09 AM »
Another mediocre strawman.

You could actually use a few pointers.

Chickens are classified as birds whether or not the news reports it as true or untrue.


Right.

Now imagine somebody claims something.

And it happens to be a claim also made by the media or at least the vast majority of them.

Do you think that it is justified to automatically assume, that he only claims it, because the media claim it, too?

Because that is what you do. Every time. Post after post.

Isn't it hypocritical to accuse other people of presenting strawman arguments when presenting strawman arguments is all what you do?

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #608 on: May 18, 2017, 02:00:38 AM »
After doing a bit of reading I found mental illnesses called a disease, that's right. A disease.

No shit Sherlock. What else did you think it was?

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So I guess call it whatever serves your interests best at the time, if your aim is a coup / civil war, then I suggest playing the mental health card for all it's worth.

The goal is to have a president that can competently perform the functions of his office. Having NPD, dementia, or being a moron interferes with that and puts the country at risk.

Another mediocre strawman.

You are confusing a metaphor with a strawman. For example, these are strawmen:

Memba the TV has told us that discrimination against MI individuals is just fine.

>Everyone I don't like is mentally ill.
>Everyone I don't like is mentally ill.
So just use disgusting blanket terms enforcing the stigma of MI instead?

Notice how you are arguing against something you imagined people said in order to justify being offended, instead of what they actually said.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #609 on: May 18, 2017, 02:13:51 AM »
How has Donald Trump as President effected your life in any measurable way?

(aside from raising your blood pressure?)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #610 on: May 18, 2017, 02:25:14 AM »
How has Donald Trump as President effected your life in any measurable way?

(aside from raising your blood pressure?)

Well, my productivity has gone down because politics is all of a sudden a soap opera.  Other than that, nothing personally, yet.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #611 on: May 18, 2017, 02:31:37 AM »
That is a good question. It would deserve its own thread.

Though 100 days is a bit early for measurable effects. Unless Totes is an illegal immigrant. Or a poor farmer in need of illegal immigrants.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #612 on: May 18, 2017, 03:42:37 AM »
That is a good question. It would deserve its own thread.

Though 100 days is a bit early for measurable effects. Unless Totes is an illegal immigrant. Or a poor farmer in need of illegal immigrants.

See you're good value after all.

I vote option 2.

How has Donald Trump as President effected your life in any measurable way?

(aside from raising your blood pressure?)

Well, my productivity has gone down because politics is all of a sudden a soap opera.  Other than that, nothing personally, yet.

Who made politics a soap opera Totes?

Was it Trump or was it the MSM devoting 90% of the news to discredit Trump?

I think if we have learned one thing from the last few months, it's that the person we vote for isn't really calling the shots. As False Prophet points out, most people already know this.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

The reason I am consistently personally attacked here.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1960160#msg1960160

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #613 on: May 18, 2017, 04:18:14 AM »

Who made politics a soap opera Totes?

Was it Trump or was it the MSM devoting 90% of the news to discredit Trump?

I think if we have learned one thing from the last few months, it's that the person we vote for isn't really calling the shots. As False Prophet points out, most people already know this.

I don't know what you think I said.

The media have there part in turning American politics into a sitcom. But not by "discrediting trump" but by their long-standing habit of avoiding the real issues. If they would have covered the elections in a responsible way, it may bot have come so far.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #614 on: May 18, 2017, 05:07:51 AM »

Who made politics a soap opera Totes?

Was it Trump or was it the MSM devoting 90% of the news to discredit Trump?

I think if we have learned one thing from the last few months, it's that the person we vote for isn't really calling the shots. As False Prophet points out, most people already know this.

I don't know what you think I said.

The media have there part in turning American politics into a sitcom. But not by "discrediting trump" but by their long-standing habit of avoiding the real issues. If they would have covered the elections in a responsible way, it may bot have come so far.


By, "...not have come so far", do you mean Hillary would have won?
I saw her as cold, calculative and maniacal. Not for the USA but for herself.

I can't speak for other voters, but, she lost.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #615 on: May 18, 2017, 05:12:55 AM »

Who made politics a soap opera Totes?

Was it Trump or was it the MSM devoting 90% of the news to discredit Trump?

I think if we have learned one thing from the last few months, it's that the person we vote for isn't really calling the shots. As False Prophet points out, most people already know this.

I don't know what you think I said.

The media have there part in turning American politics into a sitcom. But not by "discrediting trump" but by their long-standing habit of avoiding the real issues. If they would have covered the elections in a responsible way, it may bot have come so far.


By, "...not have come so far", do you mean Hillary would have won?
I saw her as cold, calculative and maniacal. Not for the USA but for herself.

I can't speak for other voters, but, she lost.

If they wouldn't have largely ignored Bernie Sanders, he may have had a better chance to win the primaries. But the corporate media hated him from the beginning.

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #616 on: May 18, 2017, 05:19:46 AM »

Who made politics a soap opera Totes?

Was it Trump or was it the MSM devoting 90% of the news to discredit Trump?

I think if we have learned one thing from the last few months, it's that the person we vote for isn't really calling the shots. As False Prophet points out, most people already know this.

I don't know what you think I said.

The media have there part in turning American politics into a sitcom. But not by "discrediting trump" but by their long-standing habit of avoiding the real issues. If they would have covered the elections in a responsible way, it may bot have come so far.


By, "...not have come so far", do you mean Hillary would have won?
I saw her as cold, calculative and maniacal. Not for the USA but for herself.

I can't speak for other voters, but, she lost.

not quite, the most of US people voted for her, only with the voting system of the US did she lost.

but thats unimportend.

you can not justify the actions of the President with actions of a President that does not exist.

your argument is only to point away from the criminal actions of Trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #617 on: May 18, 2017, 07:29:58 AM »

Who made politics a soap opera Totes?

Was it Trump or was it the MSM devoting 90% of the news to discredit Trump?

I think if we have learned one thing from the last few months, it's that the person we vote for isn't really calling the shots. As False Prophet points out, most people already know this.

I don't know what you think I said.

The media have there part in turning American politics into a sitcom. But not by "discrediting trump" but by their long-standing habit of avoiding the real issues. If they would have covered the elections in a responsible way, it may bot have come so far.


By, "...not have come so far", do you mean Hillary would have won?
I saw her as cold, calculative and maniacal. Not for the USA but for herself.

I can't speak for other voters, but, she lost.

not quite, the most of US people voted for her, only with the voting system of the US did she lost.

but thats unimportend.

you can not justify the actions of the President with actions of a President that does not exist.

your argument is only to point away from the criminal actions of Trump


Contrary to whatever bullshit your local news agency is reporting,
President Donald Trump has not committed a crime.

I'm guessing in your country the leader is known even before the ballots are printed.
An apathetic population who believes 93% to 7% is a real election.


Quick lesson on US Federal elections . . .

There is no Federal US election.
The President is elected by the States. Has been that way for for 240+ years. Every Presidential election brings out idiots and dopes who don't understand the how or why it is the way it is. It's not easy to explain, and most Americans are too ignorant to comprehend the basic concept.

Google 'Electoral College'.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #618 on: May 18, 2017, 07:41:52 AM »
In my country, whoever can shoot an arrow with a blowpipe in a monkey's bum while balancing on a coconut on top of another coconut becomes prime minister.

We are very happy with this system and you must admit it makes more sense than your 18th century "electoral college".

Trump could never do that.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #619 on: May 18, 2017, 07:44:49 AM »
In my country, whoever can shoot an arrow with a blowpipe in a monkey's bum while balancing on a coconut on top of another coconut becomes prime minister.

We are very happy with this system and you must admit it makes more sense than your 18th century "electoral college".

Trump could never do that.




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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #620 on: May 18, 2017, 08:06:50 AM »


If only we could go back to freaking out about these sorts of things.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #621 on: May 18, 2017, 08:12:09 AM »


If only we could go back to freaking out about these sorts of things.

Yeah, or maybe about things like 72 bombs dropped / day in 2016.

But nah, let's better talk about him chewing gum :)

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #622 on: May 18, 2017, 08:21:47 AM »

Who made politics a soap opera Totes?

Was it Trump or was it the MSM devoting 90% of the news to discredit Trump?

I think if we have learned one thing from the last few months, it's that the person we vote for isn't really calling the shots. As False Prophet points out, most people already know this.

I don't know what you think I said.

The media have there part in turning American politics into a sitcom. But not by "discrediting trump" but by their long-standing habit of avoiding the real issues. If they would have covered the elections in a responsible way, it may bot have come so far.


By, "...not have come so far", do you mean Hillary would have won?
I saw her as cold, calculative and maniacal. Not for the USA but for herself.

I can't speak for other voters, but, she lost.

not quite, the most of US people voted for her, only with the voting system of the US did she lost.

but thats unimportend.

you can not justify the actions of the President with actions of a President that does not exist.

your argument is only to point away from the criminal actions of Trump


Contrary to whatever bullshit your local news agency is reporting,
President Donald Trump has not committed a crime.


how do you know that?
he is at the moment not in court for what he did bud you can not for sure say he did not committed a crime.

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I'm guessing in your country the leader is known even before the ballots are printed.
An apathetic population who believes 93% to 7% is a real election.


in the country where i grew up an i am allowed to vote the people vote for different parties, the government is that put together with people that represent the percentage of the votes.
each party get as many seats in relation as they have votes.
for example if a party gets 30% of all votes they get 30% of the seats
this parliament than votes for a leader.

that is it explained in 3 sentences

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Quick lesson on US Federal elections . . .

There is no Federal US election.
The President is elected by the States. Has been that way for for 240+ years. Every Presidential election brings out idiots and dopes who don't understand the how or why it is the way it is. It's not easy to explain, and most Americans are too ignorant to comprehend the basic concept.

Google 'Electoral College'.

i understand, with that system it is possible that somebody can be president even he does not get the most votes from the people.

why are you bring all that up.

as i said, it does not madder how the election system works in USA.

What madders is Trumps actions.

he tries to make a politic that is against the normal people and benefits greatly the rich people and his own businesses.



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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #623 on: May 18, 2017, 08:31:11 AM »

Contrary to whatever bullshit your local news agency is reporting,
President Donald Trump has not committed a crime.


how do you know that?
he is at the moment not in court for what he did bud you can not for sure say he did not committed a crime.


It is really hard to understand why what Trump does is not a crime in America.

I mean, my country is notoriously corrupt, but at least they have to hide it. But in the USA there seems to be no law against doing politics for one's own benefits.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #624 on: May 18, 2017, 09:21:04 AM »
"Obama caught chewing gum"
"Obama uses Arugula, what's Arugula? Who does he think he is?"
"Obama orders a cheeseburger without ketchup, what is that?"
"Obama has the nerve to wear a tan suit"
"Barack and Michelle celebrate with terrorist fist-jab?"

Barack's response: "..."

"17 federal agencies confirm Russian election tampering in favor of Trump"
"Trump blatantly lies about number of fraudulent voters in election"
"Trump fills his cabinet with cronies after talking about draining the swamp"
"Trump continues to hide his tax returns for some reason"
"Trump wants to keep America safe, now wants to sell $350bn in arms to Saudi Arabia, the terrorist-funding country"
"Trump and Pence lied about not knowing Flynn was compromised. Hired him anyway."
"Trump asks Comey to pledge his unwavering loyalty to him"
"Trump asks Comey to stop investigating Flynn, even though Trump know he's compromised, because "he's a good guy""
"Trump fires Comey for continuing to investigate his ties to Russia"
"Trump shares highly-classified intel with Kislyak, a suspected Russian spy"
"McCarthy swears Trump is getting paychecks from Putin and Paul Ryan tells him to keep it hush hush.... 12 months ago."

Trump: "People are so mean to me!"


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #625 on: May 18, 2017, 10:07:31 AM »

i understand, with that system it is possible that somebody can be president even he does not get the most votes from the people.


Our President is chosen by the States. Not by popular vote.



What matters is Trumps actions.

He tries to make a politic that is against the normal people and benefits greatly the rich people and his own businesses.


That's the opinion of people who don't like him. The people who lost the election.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #626 on: May 18, 2017, 10:26:46 AM »
Hillary sent some e-mails through the wrong e-mail direction and she's a traitor.

Trump steals a fifth of his campaign cash, promotes racism, islamophobia and homophobia, and attempts to turn the Presidency of the United States into his personal gold mine, and he's the savior of the country.

Are we crazy yet?


Thank you so much. Exactly. I don't support him, nor do I support said people.
You are the opposite of Jesus.

Yours sincerely,
Barry B. Benson

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #627 on: May 18, 2017, 10:27:39 AM »

i understand, with that system it is possible that somebody can be president even he does not get the most votes from the people.


Our President is chosen by the States. Not by popular vote.


i wrote that i understand that, but the truth is also that in total of vote count he did not got the most votes.
he did not simply acknowledge that, he claimed that is because of voter fraud, and that was a claim without any evidence.

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What matters is Trumps actions.

He tries to make a politic that is against the normal people and benefits greatly the rich people and his own businesses.


That's the opinion of people who don't like him. The people who lost the election.

more and more people see this and do not approve anymore with him.
he simply deny this and calls it all fake news.


all his actions shows that he has no clue what to do as a president.
he try to run a country like his family business

and like he got a few times bankrupt with his businesses, he will also make the country bankrupt.


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I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #629 on: May 18, 2017, 11:26:35 AM »


I really do not like Salon, but this cracked me up for some reason.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.