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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
20 (26.7%)
I want him to fight terrorism
11 (14.7%)
Free trade is bad
5 (6.7%)
He is the wild card we need
39 (52%)

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Why do you support donald trump

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disputeone

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #570 on: May 17, 2017, 08:02:03 PM »
The issue I have is people calling others mentally ill as an insult or to justify behavior they find unacceptable.

Why not attack his policies?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #571 on: May 17, 2017, 08:05:15 PM »
More than just Democrats are concerned, though. Some very senior Republicans are also concerned with how the White House has been operating
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #572 on: May 17, 2017, 08:07:57 PM »
The issue I have is people calling others mentally ill as an insult or to justify behavior they find unacceptable.

Why not attack his policies?

Yeah I don't like that either. There's enough source material to work with without playing armchair psychologist. Much easier to just say "yeah that Comey thing was kinda fucked up" or whatever other controversy you want to insert.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #573 on: May 17, 2017, 08:18:51 PM »
More than just Democrats are concerned, though. Some very senior Republicans are also concerned with how the White House has been operating

Obviously, if they were President, they would do it their way. But, they are not the President.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #574 on: May 17, 2017, 08:19:44 PM »
The issue I have is people calling others mentally ill as an insult or to justify behavior they find unacceptable.

Why not attack his policies?

We've done plenty of that as well.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #575 on: May 17, 2017, 08:44:28 PM »
The issue I have is people calling others mentally ill as an insult or to justify behavior they find unacceptable.

Why not attack his policies?

We've done plenty of that as well.

I didn't say you haven't.

My comment was aimed at false prophet.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #576 on: May 17, 2017, 08:57:47 PM »
The issue I have is people calling others mentally ill as an insult or to justify behavior they find unacceptable.

Why not attack his policies?

We've done plenty of that as well.

I didn't say you haven't.

My comment was aimed at false prophet.

take this sentence:

"Psychologists say trump is mentally ill"

and google it.

At least the dementia is very obvious even for a layman.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #577 on: May 17, 2017, 09:15:58 PM »

take this sentence:

"Psychologists say trump is mentally ill"

and google it.



Oh, I wonder what I will find.   ::)


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #578 on: May 17, 2017, 09:17:42 PM »
I can only find opinion articles.

I will say again.

Please cite Trumps medical records.

Failing that please cite your qualifications in psychology and justification to make that call based on your television and never meeting the guy.


It's also a desperate stretch to call dementia a mental illness. More like entropy.

Also google "is the earth flat"
Or
"Is the queen a reptile."

And get back to me.
Don't believe everything you see or read, even if it's on the holy television.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #579 on: May 17, 2017, 09:36:22 PM »
I can only find opinion articles.

I will say again.

Please cite Trumps medical records.

Failing that please cite your qualifications in psychology and justification to make that call based on your television and never meeting the guy.


It's also a desperate stretch to call dementia a mental illness. More like entropy.

Also google "is the earth flat"
Or
"Is the queen a reptile."

And get back to me.
Don't believe everything you see or read, even if it's on the holy television.

The queen is not a reptile, but Hillary Clinton is. Did you see her eyes?

As for Trump, it could also be ADHS. That would explain, why he can read only short and very simple texts and cannot follow a conversation longer than a few minutes. But if you compare his current behaviour with as he was, say, 10 years ago, you will detect an amount of cognitive erosion

I have no medical qualifications, I use a bone oracle that has turned out to be accurate 85% of the time

Regarding Trump's medical records, as everybody knows, he is the most healthy person who has ever run for president.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #580 on: May 17, 2017, 09:44:00 PM »
I use a bone oracle that has turned out to be accurate 85% of the time

It's called a dildo.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #581 on: May 17, 2017, 09:46:28 PM »
I use a bone oracle that has turned out to be accurate 85% of the time

It's called a dildo.

No, it is called a bone oracle. But it can also be used as a dildo.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #582 on: May 17, 2017, 09:48:06 PM »
I use a bone oracle that has turned out to be accurate 85% of the time

It's called a dildo.

No, it is called a bone oracle. But it can also be used as a dildo.


 ;)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #583 on: May 17, 2017, 11:07:45 PM »
The issue I have is people calling others mentally ill as an insult or to justify behavior they find unacceptable.

Sure, but that's not what this is. It's just an observation. A rather important observation, since he happens to be the president of the US. It's not something that should be ignored. You don't need an official diagnosis to notice that he shows textbook signs of NPD.

Edit: And yes, dementia is a mental illness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5#Neurocognitive_disorders

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Why not attack his policies?

Too easy. Low hanging fruit. I don't want to touch Trump's low hanging fruit.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 11:16:32 PM by TotesReptilian »

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #584 on: May 17, 2017, 11:23:37 PM »
So just use disgusting blanket terms enforcing the stigma of MI instead?

Sounds about right.

I'd disagree about dementia.
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While it may be splitting hairs to accept one term over the other, the medical definition of a mental disorder as “a physical or mental condition that is not normal or healthy” seems to fit. However, unlike many mental disorders, there are discernible neurological impairments that cause dementia.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #585 on: May 17, 2017, 11:39:48 PM »
You don't need an official diagnosis to notice that he shows textbook signs of NPD.


Yes, you actually do. Otherwise any dork on the interweb
could diagnose any disorder at any time for any self-serving reason.

You need to be smarter than a crate of dirt before you diagnose an ailment
by watching selective sound bites on your television.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #586 on: May 17, 2017, 11:48:25 PM »
So just use disgusting blanket terms enforcing the stigma of MI instead?

Sounds about right.

I'd disagree about dementia.
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While it may be splitting hairs to accept one term over the other, the medical definition of a mental disorder as “a physical or mental condition that is not normal or healthy” seems to fit. However, unlike many mental disorders, there are discernible neurological impairments that cause dementia.

Totes formulates it well. Saying Trump shows textbook signs of NPD is a legitimate observation. While when I say he has it is indeed an attempt of a diagnosis.

Also, your quote

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However, unlike many mental disorders, there are discernible neurological impairments that cause dementia

does say that dementia is a mental disorder.

In contrast to that, your limited reading ability is not.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #587 on: May 17, 2017, 11:50:14 PM »
Yes, you actually do. Otherwise any dork on the interweb
could diagnose any disorder at any time for any self-serving reason.


Actually it's a funny story....

Speaking of reading comprehension prophet, mental disorder ==/== mental illness.

>Everyone I don't like is mentally ill.

Lol.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #588 on: May 17, 2017, 11:52:02 PM »
mental disorder ==/== mental illness
What's the difference?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #589 on: May 17, 2017, 11:57:06 PM »
mental disorder ==/== mental illness
What's the difference?

disorder is professional, illness is layman.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #590 on: May 18, 2017, 12:01:14 AM »
I disagree.

You don't call people who are intellectually disabled, mentally ill and vice versa.

For example, I am "mentally ill" and user is intellectually disabled, there is a difference.

I'd classify dementia as an intellectual disability, not a mental illness.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #591 on: May 18, 2017, 12:06:11 AM »
I disagree.

You don't call people who are intellectually disabled, mentally ill and vice versa.

For example, I am "mentally ill" and user is intellectually disabled, there is a difference.
Yeah, mentally and intellectually is the difference here, I'd say.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #592 on: May 18, 2017, 12:06:45 AM »
I disagree.

You don't call people who are intellectually disabled, mentally ill and vice versa.

For example, I am "mentally ill" and user is intellectually disabled, there is a difference.

I'd classify dementia as an intellectual disability, not a mental illness.

No, dementia is a well defined illness, or disorder, if you prefer. Intellectual disability just means you are not that bright.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #593 on: May 18, 2017, 12:13:37 AM »
After doing a bit of reading I found mental illnesses called a disease, that's right. A disease.

So I guess call it whatever serves your interests best at the time, if your aim is a coup / civil war, then I suggest playing the mental health card for all it's worth.

Memba the TV has told us that discrimination against MI individuals is just fine.

>Everyone I don't like is mentally ill.

Carry on you two.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #594 on: May 18, 2017, 12:15:07 AM »
Memba the TV has told us that discrimination against MI individuals is just fine.
You told that yourself so many times that you started to actually believe it.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #595 on: May 18, 2017, 12:18:55 AM »
Have you not watched the MSM try to label Trump as MI to discredit him?

We're talking about it right now man.

Are you slow?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #596 on: May 18, 2017, 12:21:54 AM »
Have you not watched the MSM try to label Trump as MI to discredit him?

We're talking about it right now man.

Are you slow?
Isn't it hypocrite to call others 'slow' and 'intelectually disabled', whilst complaining about people using 'mentally ill' as a negative term?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #597 on: May 18, 2017, 12:24:54 AM »
None of you are qualified to make a diagnosis.
It's just your personal opinion backed and bolstered by fake knowledge.

None of you armchair psychiatrists have ever read a single actual textbook on the subject,
yet, you sputter inane shit like a common talk show host.

Pathetic. (probably a disorder.)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #598 on: May 18, 2017, 12:26:54 AM »
Pathetic. (probably a disorder.)
What makes you more than an "armchair psychiatrist"?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #599 on: May 18, 2017, 12:27:14 AM »
Have you not watched the MSM try to label Trump as MI to discredit him?

We're talking about it right now man.

Are you slow?
Isn't it hypocrite to call others 'slow' and 'intelectually disabled', whilst complaining about people using 'mentally ill' as a negative term?

Yes. I am glad you noticed. The TV has indeed told us not to discriminate against slow people, very good.

Did you realise your point was bunk?
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