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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
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I want him to fight terrorism
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Free trade is bad
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He is the wild card we need
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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #210 on: April 04, 2017, 07:28:18 PM »
A better metaphor would be a giant douche and a turd sandwich anyway.



Giant douche 2020.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #211 on: April 04, 2017, 07:35:04 PM »
Some people don't like strawberry icecream, paid.

Next time you want my opinion just assume it is exactly the same as yours and we will get on famously.

I may not agree with what you say but I would defend to the death your right to say it.

Come on, you cannot claim dog poop is strawberry ice and say respect my opinion. You are from Australia or something, you do not have to eat American dog poop, but Totes gets it served every day.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #212 on: April 04, 2017, 07:39:54 PM »
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Following the multiple terrorist attacks in New York and Washington DC on 11 September 2001, US President George W. Bush declared a "war on terror". Australia invoked the ANZUS treaty to support the US effort and Australian military personnel joined the forces of "the coalition of the willing"

https://www.awm.gov.au/atwar/afghanistan/

Sorry, what?

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Before "the incident" David had two major goals: to rise up in the ranks of the Air Force, and to retire at 55. He worked his way up to sergeant; that's one milestone. But he won't reach the second. He'll be medically discharged in October at the age of 50. He'll never serve again and he is unlikely to ever work again.

"I was ten-foot tall, bulletproof, nothing could get in the way of what I wanted to achieve." David speaks softly and looks you straight in the eye. He's a good talker. We are sitting in a common room in a hospital in Melbourne, which has been his home for three weeks. David is wearing grey tracksuit pants and a black Def Leppard T-shirt. He's sporting thongs and a moustache.





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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #213 on: April 04, 2017, 07:53:03 PM »
Is freedom really worth people having different opinions?

It depends who you ask.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #214 on: April 04, 2017, 08:29:42 PM »
I may not agree with what you say but I would defend to the death your right to say it.
Is freedom really worth people having different opinions?

It depends who you ask.

No one is trying to take away your freedom to have an idiotic opinion. That is your right. But don't be surprised if people call you an idiot for having an idiotic opinion.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #215 on: April 04, 2017, 08:32:41 PM »
I wrote almost the same, but Totes was faster.

Not all opinions are equally valid. An informed opinion is more worth than an uninformed one. Opinions can be provably wrong ("not all quarks are fermions" for example). You have the freedom to be ridiculous and others have the freedom to laugh about you.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #216 on: April 04, 2017, 08:50:24 PM »
"I respect peoples differences, thats why I hate Trump.

But boy do I hate Trump supporters, they are different."

Kek.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #217 on: April 04, 2017, 08:56:54 PM »
I may not agree with what you say but I would defend to the death your right to say it.
Is freedom really worth people having different opinions?

It depends who you ask.

No one is trying to take away your freedom to have an idiotic opinion. That is your right. But don't be surprised if people call you an idiot for having an idiotic opinion.

Freedom isn't worth people disagreeing with you, is it?

It will always be worth it to me.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #218 on: April 04, 2017, 09:07:11 PM »
"I respect peoples differences, thats why I hate Trump.

But boy do I hate Trump supporters, they are different."

Kek.

I do not know if anybody hates you. But if so then not because you are "different".

You do not believe what you say. God knows why you say stuff. I guess it has something to do with your libido.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #219 on: April 04, 2017, 09:10:35 PM »
That's really funny.

You guys hate being called out on hypocrisy hey?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #220 on: April 04, 2017, 09:14:13 PM »
Wait, I get it.

You live in a country totally dependent on international aid, don't you?

I know it is rough, but in my opinion, it is not Americas job to make sure everyone else has a functioning society, it's just not.

But that is just my stupid opinion ;)
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #221 on: April 04, 2017, 09:18:07 PM »
I may not agree with what you say but I would defend to the death your right to say it.
Is freedom really worth people having different opinions?

It depends who you ask.

No one is trying to take away your freedom to have an idiotic opinion. That is your right. But don't be surprised if people call you an idiot for having an idiotic opinion.

Freedom isn't worth people disagreeing with you, is it?

It will always be worth it to me.

Learn to read, dude.

That's really funny.

You guys hate being called out on hypocrisy hey?
Wait, I get it.

You live in a country totally dependent on international aid, don't you?

Well, this has officially devolved into mindless deflection. I guess we know disputeone's answer to this thread. Time to move on.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #222 on: April 04, 2017, 09:23:36 PM »
Hmm...maybe there are people who hate you because you are different. Life can be cruel.

How different are you? Do you wear your balls on your chin?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #223 on: April 04, 2017, 09:27:56 PM »
My answer was people have different opinions.

Sorry about that.

Let's work towards a society where everyone has the same opinion.

Goddamnit we are nearly there already.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #224 on: April 04, 2017, 09:31:58 PM »
I may not agree with what you say but I would defend to the death your right to say it.
Is freedom really worth people having different opinions?

It depends who you ask.

idiotic idiot idiotic.

Don't ever change Totes.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #225 on: April 06, 2017, 12:41:07 PM »
Okay.  So... we may or may not be going to war very soon.  And that may or may not include attacking Russian forces.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-options/

Good luck everyone.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #226 on: April 06, 2017, 03:59:27 PM »
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #227 on: April 06, 2017, 04:19:53 PM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #228 on: April 06, 2017, 04:31:20 PM »
Trump appears to be someone who will not capitulate to other powers. I am thinking China could be doing a lot more to deal with North Korea on a political level now if Trump is smart enough

For example, Trump gets in and talks tough on the South China Sea islands, he says he believes Taiwan is independent from China and wants to be much tougher on trade in favour of America much more than China.

Now.... He has created many bargaining chips to use. If he were to go back on all or some of these things in return for China sorting out the mess in North Korea (which they can easily do), then everything has been gained and nothing actually 'lost'. Everything just goes back to the 'status quo' as it was anyway and hopefully North Korea regime is finished. (we can only hope).

With any other politician, we would just continue to hear them 'talking tough' but having no substance and no fear of any real follow up or action. That is why North Korea has continued to build, develop, test and threaten annihilation to the rest of the world without any worry of blowback. Trump may be a necessary evil we need that ends this festering and growing problem.

North Korea is a big fan of their 'Juche' philosophy (self reliance). China could put that to the test by stopping the supply of oil, electricity and trade. Of course the self reliance is a load of crap because they are heavily dependant on China to maintain their existence. A stroke of a pen in China could collapse the North Korean regime. Trump just have to give China a good reason to do so
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #229 on: April 06, 2017, 05:04:27 PM »
Maybe Trump's fans will talk him out of it https://twitter.com/hashtag/SyriaHoax?src=tren&data_id=tweet%3A850111185097814016

No one wants another war.



True. But no one wants to see children killed with nerve gas. So we're kind of in between a rock and a hard place.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #230 on: April 06, 2017, 05:05:19 PM »
Maybe Trump's fans will talk him out of it https://twitter.com/hashtag/SyriaHoax?src=tren&data_id=tweet%3A850111185097814016

No one wants another war.



True. But no one wants to see children killed with nerve gas. So we're kind of in between a rock and a hard place.

Exactly.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/where-is-outcry-over-children-killed-by-u-s-led-forces/

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Since 9/11, U.S.-led forces have killed—directly, not indirectly--more than a thousand children in Syria and other war zones around the world. To my mind, each one of these victims should provoke universal horror, pity and condemnation.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #231 on: April 06, 2017, 05:38:02 PM »
If this starts Iraq 2.0, killing people to stop them killing people.

We will not forgive and we will not forget. A lot of us supported Trump because we hoped he would put his own country first and stop bombing everyone to try to stop them bombing each other.

We cannot fight violence with violence.
Bullets and Bombs won't stop ideas.

There is no bond that can unite the divided but love: all else is a curse. Accursed! Accursed be it to the aeons! Hell.

Just my 2c.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #232 on: April 06, 2017, 05:58:36 PM »
If this starts Iraq 2.0, killing people to stop them killing people.

We will not forgive and we will not forget. A lot of us supported Trump because we hoped he would put his own country first and stop bombing everyone to try to stop them bombing each other.

We cannot fight violence with violence.
Bullets and Bombs won't stop ideas.

There is no bond that can unite the divided but love: all else is a curse. Accursed! Accursed be it to the aeons! Hell.

Just my 2c.

I don't know what the right thing to do here is.  I certainly don't envy Trump right now.  Though there is some poetic justice in this.  This exact situation is what he gave Obama a lot of grief for over the last four years.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #233 on: April 06, 2017, 06:09:51 PM »
The whole world is focused on one narrow slice of the earth in the Middle East as if that is the only place atrocities are happening. I don't try to play down the barbarism of what has just occurred using chemical weapons (the instant level of outrage suggests that a bomb that would have blown everyone to bits would be more preferable?).

I am left wondering why if we are so grieved about Syria, why no one thinks about or sheds a tear about all the barbarism and killings across Africa? A SJW might use the race card but even the SJW and Leftist media don't mention any of the atrocities committed by Al Shabaab or corrupt lawless governments in that region. We also have North Korea which has reportedly hundreds of thousands of people (due to guilt by association) in the gulag and the human rights abuses and torture including the use of chemical weapons make Bashar Al-Assad look like a saint. China doesn't have its nose clean either. Practice 'Falun Gong' and you can have your organs harvested! Many freedoms enjoyed by us are trampled on in China.

Killing scores of people to stop people killing each other..... It's just stupid crazy logic. I hate to say it, but given we seem happy to pick which conflicts we care about and forget others, maybe its time to walk away from all conflict that's not in our region. Let the Middle East sort out its own problems. We seem happy to currently do it for many parts of Africa and North Korea. Ultimately the Middle East problems have been going on for thousands of years and the root problem is embedded in religion. I don't see how stepping in and contributing to the killing for any side is going to change a damn thing.

When Trump came in, it seemed as if the notion that America was the police of the world would stop. It is utterly ridiculous that one nation should or could have that much power that it can justify itself in the internal affairs of sovereign nations. I think there would be far less problems if America just stayed out of conflicts. There would still be problems. Still be innocent people killed by governments for no reason, but can anyone look anyone straight in the eye and say the world is a better place for America going into Iraq in the first place? Should have just stayed out of it.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #234 on: April 06, 2017, 06:31:46 PM »
If this starts Iraq 2.0, killing people to stop them killing people.

We will not forgive and we will not forget. A lot of us supported Trump because we hoped he would put his own country first and stop bombing everyone to try to stop them bombing each other.

We cannot fight violence with violence.
Bullets and Bombs won't stop ideas.

There is no bond that can unite the divided but love: all else is a curse. Accursed! Accursed be it to the aeons! Hell.

Just my 2c.

I don't know what the right thing to do here is.  I certainly don't envy Trump right now.  Though there is some poetic justice in this.  This exact situation is what he gave Obama a lot of grief for over the last four years.

I wouldn't call it poetic but fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #235 on: April 06, 2017, 06:32:12 PM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #236 on: April 06, 2017, 06:52:23 PM »
Goddamnit.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #237 on: April 06, 2017, 07:01:26 PM »
Maybe Trump's fans will talk him out of it https://twitter.com/hashtag/SyriaHoax?src=tren&data_id=tweet%3A850111185097814016

No one wants another war.


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #238 on: April 06, 2017, 07:05:06 PM »
Hoppy knows.

Wtf happened guys?

Who is really gaining from these wars in the middle east? We are still fighting Israels wars. (Inb4 literally Hitler, dont care.)



It just goes to show we as a people had no power to stop this war, it was always going to happen, Trump or Hillary.

Goddamnit.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #239 on: April 06, 2017, 07:11:19 PM »
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this.

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