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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
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I want him to fight terrorism
13 (14.3%)
Free trade is bad
6 (6.6%)
He is the wild card we need
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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #120 on: March 30, 2017, 09:07:20 AM »
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #121 on: March 30, 2017, 09:53:26 AM »

looks like trump starts to implement more things to control the people of the country.

i think he will slowly build up a system that ensures that he also will get revoted in 4 years.

than its only a little step that he will remove the limit of 2 periods as president.

or he will even control it that one of his sons will follow him.

he already implement his daughter and his son in law in the white house.

USA will become a family business of the Trumps.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #122 on: March 30, 2017, 09:58:29 AM »
The country will very likely be re-named to TRUMPLAND!
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #123 on: March 30, 2017, 10:02:02 AM »
I've been talking with people about the double edged sword he is referring to with his 2nd point. Social media has provided everyone a voice for their opinions and facts but it also makes spreading fake information incredibly easy.

I'd be curious what his, or his organizations', theories on solutions to those problems are. The fake news situation should work itself out, but it won't with people starting to view any contradictory news as fake. The data collection problem had a potential fix (sort of) but that just got squashed by Congress. The political advertising falls back in line with the fake news bit too.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #124 on: March 30, 2017, 10:09:36 AM »
Now you have your Hitler II that you deserve.



Hitler? Seriously?

Yes look at the parallels.

-Blaming all Problems on a other Religion.
-saying that the media that does not support him is fake News.
-extremely corrupt



There are some parallels, but actually not really. Trump is a completely different character. Trump could not write a book like "Mein Kampf". Also he wouldn't want to. He has no ideology. He doesn't mean anything when he says words.

The overall situation in America is a bit like the Soviet Union in the late 80's. They also had a system that nobody wanted anymore. In the case of America, it is a system ruled by corporations who basically have politicians of both parties as their employees.

Obama would be your Gorbachev. He brought some "change", but not enough. The Russians never liked him as much as the West did.

The Trump administration would be a bit as if the Coup of August 1991 had succeeded. There was no coup in America, but Trump won because he lured his voters into believing that he would bring an end to the corporate ruled system ("drain the swamp"). Instead he kind of merged the state and the corporate networks (by the way, that was Mussolini's definition of Fascism). Now you have a government that works 100% for the interests of the billionaires. Like the coup of 1991 wanted to throw Russia back into a stone age  communism, the Trump administration aims to establish a kind of stone age capitalism: back to coal, cutting all environmental and bank regulations, cutting social security, transferring tax money back to the rich and so on.

But it is true, a parallel to Hitler is the strategy which they use to direct the attention of the people away from the real problems: get rid of the illegal latinos and the Muslims and everything will be fine. Slaughter random brown people in some starveling countries like Yemen (to fight "ISIS") and streams of oil will pour into the land and nobody will have to pay taxes anymore. Or something.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #125 on: March 30, 2017, 02:59:42 PM »
I'm detecting some bias here.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #126 on: March 30, 2017, 03:10:11 PM »
Everyone is biased.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #127 on: March 30, 2017, 04:13:25 PM »
True fact.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #128 on: March 30, 2017, 04:31:30 PM »
I'm detecting some bias here.

Come on, a sentence like "Trump is trying to do his best" is ridiculous. I live on the other side of the world and even I know that all he does is twitter, watching TV and playing golf.

Being objective is not always the same as being neutral. What do you think about the shape of the earth?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #129 on: March 30, 2017, 05:01:36 PM »
I'm detecting some bias here.

Come on, a sentence like "Trump is trying to do his best" is ridiculous. I live on the other side of the world and even I know that all he does is twitter, watching TV and playing golf.

Being objective is not always the same as being neutral. What do you think about the shape of the earth?

That's really low and I'm pretty neutral.

Weak strawman, I've seen weaker but still.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #130 on: March 31, 2017, 03:05:37 AM »
Was't Trump supposed to drain the swamp, and end with political dynasties and corporate powers? Then why is he creating his own dynasty and supporting the already rich? I'm not sure this is going towards the direction people was told. And I'm pretty sure he's not doing his best at all.

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #131 on: March 31, 2017, 06:36:51 AM »
Was't Trump supposed to drain the swamp, and end with political dynasties and corporate powers? Then why is he creating his own dynasty and supporting the already rich? I'm not sure this is going towards the direction people was told. And I'm pretty sure he's not doing his best at all.

He is a narcissistic, billionaire, demagogue. He never gave any specifics for the great things he claimed he would do. He routinely demonstrated a complete disregard for the truth.

Who could have ever seen this coming?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #132 on: March 31, 2017, 07:08:39 AM »
If it came down to satan and Hillary in the election I would have been overwhelmingly pro satan.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #133 on: March 31, 2017, 07:34:18 AM »
If it came down to satan and Hillary in the election I would have been overwhelmingly pro satan.

I am curious. What made Hillary such a bad candidate in your opinion?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #134 on: March 31, 2017, 07:35:53 AM »
9/11 and the war on terror.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #135 on: March 31, 2017, 07:39:52 AM »
9/11 and the war on terror.

I'm pretty sure Bush was president during both of those. How are you connecting them to Hillary?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #136 on: March 31, 2017, 07:49:40 AM »
She was involved every step of the way, Hillary, Bush, Obama are criminals, Hillary was a puppet, we would be quickly heading towards a war with Russia for hacking americas paper ballots in the other timeline imo.

They are still pushing for it.

You have to understand I believe the system is corrupt to the core, that's why the more the media and powers attack Trump the more I like him.

I am Australian but we have followed you into every damn war you ever started, I believe Trump will get us out of the middle east, memba the war on terror? Memba millions of innocent women and children dead to "collateral damage?" I memba. But Hillary has supported this from day one however would have let us use the opposite sexes bathrooms... the clear candidate....
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #137 on: March 31, 2017, 08:30:11 AM »
She was involved every step of the way, Hillary, Bush, Obama are criminals, Hillary was a puppet, we would be quickly heading towards a war with Russia for hacking americas paper ballots in the other timeline imo.

They are still pushing for it.

Do you have evidence for any of that?

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You have to understand I believe the system is corrupt to the core, that's why the more the media and powers attack Trump the more I like him.

What if the media was telling the truth about Trump, and Trump is the one lying. Would that make a difference to you?

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I am Australian but we have followed you into every damn war you ever started, I believe Trump will get us out of the middle east, memba the war on terror? Memba millions of innocent women and children dead to "collateral damage?" I memba. But Hillary has supported this from day one however would have let us use the opposite sexes bathrooms... the clear candidate....

You realize that " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trump was originally for the war as well, right? Not to mention he has advocated war crimes such as waterboarding, targeting the families of terrorists, and stealing Iraq's oil. He even hinted that " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Maybe we'll have another chance" to steal Iraq's oil. This was not a one-time, flippant remark either. He reiterated the possibility in an interview with ABC.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #138 on: March 31, 2017, 08:31:49 AM »
Trump is pushing this "war on terror" more than Obama did. He does not aim to "get you out of the Middle East", he just said so to get elected. In fact the number of civilians killed by the US army has increased almost 500% since Trump has become president. That does not mean that the number of air strikes or other operations has increased, it has not. That only means that the new administration does care even less for civilian casualties. Now it's about killing Muslims. The media hardly cover that, but it will get worse and worse.

Trump lets Obama look like a Nobel peace laureate.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #139 on: March 31, 2017, 01:38:11 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/847455180912181249

 Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump Mar 30

The failing @nytimes has disgraced the media world. Gotten me wrong for two solid years. Change libel laws?


When he doesn't like what they write they are "failing" and "libeling" him. I wonder if he feels that the libel laws should have been changed while he was knowingly falsely accusing Obama of being born in Kenya? Or when he was accusing him of being Muslim?

I think he's trying to distract from $25 million he has to pay back to the people he defrauded at Trump University.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #140 on: March 31, 2017, 04:49:27 PM »
It's fine to dislike him, everyone has different opinions.

You sure do love your TV Totes.
I don't have evidence (TV didn't tell us.)

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #141 on: March 31, 2017, 05:02:04 PM »
numbers are numbers, opinions are opinions.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #142 on: March 31, 2017, 05:09:40 PM »
Trump inherited a mess imo, we can't just ignore Isis, he needs to see out what he started with.

We've been there for 16 years now, 16 years of an unjust and illegal war on an ideology instead of a enemy, I'll give the guy more than three months to make a proper exit strategy.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #143 on: March 31, 2017, 05:17:44 PM »

. . . we would be quickly heading towards a war with Russia for hacking americas paper ballots in the other timeline imo.



Putin did not influence the election any more than a voter allowed him to.
Media was all jacked off about it; media is easily jacked off.   :P


Putin's goal is to destabilize and debase our system.
That is to be expected.
We took out the U.S.S.R.
Putin is KGB. He's pissed off. What else would we expect?



Why does the side of good always ease up 3/4 of the way to the finish line?

Win the trophy, . . . then be gracious!



Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #144 on: March 31, 2017, 05:22:08 PM »
It's fine to dislike him, everyone has different opinions.

You sure do love your TV Totes.
I don't have evidence (TV didn't tell us.)

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

You made a specific accusation against Hillary, and nothing on the site you linked backs up that accusation that I can find. Be more specific.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #145 on: March 31, 2017, 05:24:28 PM »
It's fine to dislike him, everyone has different opinions.

You sure do love your TV Totes.
I don't have evidence (TV didn't tell us.)

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

You made a specific accusation against Hillary, and nothing on the site you linked backs up that accusation that I can find. Be more specific.

That we would be heading towards war with Russia?

I can't link to a TV saying that, no, sorry.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #146 on: March 31, 2017, 05:28:22 PM »
However this, imo, is pretty close.



I am not naive enough to believe either  the US or Russia are innocent.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #147 on: March 31, 2017, 05:37:49 PM »

I am not naive enough to believe either the US or Russia are innocent.



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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #148 on: March 31, 2017, 05:40:15 PM »
One country jails and silently murders those who criticize their president.

The other slams every president hey have that there's a late night TV industry built around it.

Make of that what you may.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #149 on: March 31, 2017, 05:48:47 PM »
One country jails and silently murders those who criticize their president.

The other slams every president hey have that there's a late night TV industry built around it.

Make of that what you may.


Easy choice.