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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
22 (25.9%)
I want him to fight terrorism
13 (15.3%)
Free trade is bad
6 (7.1%)
He is the wild card we need
44 (51.8%)

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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20760 on: September 02, 2021, 02:23:28 AM »
A lawyer does not fight right and wrong.
There's nothing to stop them if they so choose.  Plenty of lawyers fight what they see as moral campaigns.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20762 on: September 02, 2021, 09:54:44 PM »
Kinda scary.
We've never really been a single entity.  We're more like a collection of rabid honey badgers stuffed into a 3 piece suit.  It occasionally bears the semblance of a man

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20763 on: September 03, 2021, 04:24:40 AM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20764 on: September 13, 2021, 04:48:28 PM »
The grift email system continues unabated...  ripping off the suckers

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20765 on: September 13, 2021, 09:45:22 PM »
Surely no one's going to fall for that scam. It's too obvious! They aren't even trying to look legit anymore

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20766 on: September 13, 2021, 10:19:03 PM »
Every time seems to be "Never a more critical time to donate...." Like... When do people get desensitized to it?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20767 on: September 13, 2021, 11:20:22 PM »

A lawyer is still not permitted to lie or mislead the court.

A lawyer tells the court what their client tells them.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20768 on: September 16, 2021, 12:55:08 PM »

A lawyer is still not permitted to lie or mislead the court.

A lawyer tells the court what their client tells them.
Not always.  Most lawyers worth their salt aren’t so stupid that they don’t know when their clients are lying.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20769 on: September 18, 2021, 10:57:09 PM »

A lawyer is still not permitted to lie or mislead the court.

A lawyer tells the court what their client tells them.
Not always.  Most lawyers worth their salt aren’t so stupid that they don’t know when their clients are lying.

Always. 

Imagine a defense attorney standing
up and telling the court his client is guilty
against his clients will.

We may be talking past each other.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20770 on: September 20, 2021, 06:08:42 AM »

A lawyer is still not permitted to lie or mislead the court.

A lawyer tells the court what their client tells them.
Not always.  Most lawyers worth their salt aren’t so stupid that they don’t know when their clients are lying.

Always. 

Imagine a defense attorney standing
up and telling the court his client is guilty
against his clients will.

We may be talking past each other.
I'm pretty sure if a defense attorney's client admits their guilty, they recommend their client to plead guilty.  I don't think lawyers are permitted to outright lie in court, which is why they generously stretch the truth instead.  Most of the time their primary defense is "my client isn't guilty because it's plausible someone else did this instead."
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20771 on: September 20, 2021, 10:46:18 AM »
Also, the idea of a vigorous defense doesn't really apply here.  Trump isn't charged with anything.  He lost an election and doesn't want to admit it.  If these lawyers want to debase themselves for... reasons then okay.  But they're under no moral or legal obligation to do so.  In fact it's probably the opposite.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20772 on: September 24, 2021, 11:47:55 PM »
How odd. I can't seem to find any mention of the results of the Arizona audit. I would think that fox viewers would be glad to learn that the election was fair and the results were accurate.

There was one thing they found though. Joe Biden ended up having 300 more votes. So this audit cost trump donors 6million so that works out to charging 20000$ for - 1 vote for Trump.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20773 on: September 25, 2021, 12:31:06 AM »
How odd. I can't seem to find any mention of the results of the Arizona audit. I would think that fox viewers would be glad to learn that the election was fair and the results were accurate.

There was one thing they found though. Joe Biden ended up having 300 more votes. So this audit cost trump donors 6million so that works out to charging 20000$ for - 1 vote for Trump.

So the cyber ninjas failed to find anything...   cue:- the Qanons saying cyber ninjas were got at by the derp state.. 

The real truth is that the lizards with their spreadsheets rigged the whole thing,  why can't anybody else see it?

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20774 on: September 26, 2021, 08:46:33 AM »
The CIA was plotting to assassinate Assange in 2017 https://news.yahoo.com/kidnapping-assassination-and-a-london-shoot-out-inside-the-ci-as-secret-war-plans-against-wiki-leaks-090057786.html

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Trump is the deep state! lol
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20775 on: September 26, 2021, 08:50:54 AM »
How odd. I can't seem to find any mention of the results of the Arizona audit. I would think that fox viewers would be glad to learn that the election was fair and the results were accurate.

There was one thing they found though. Joe Biden ended up having 300 more votes. So this audit cost trump donors 6million so that works out to charging 20000$ for - 1 vote for Trump.

So the cyber ninjas failed to find anything...   cue:- the Qanons saying cyber ninjas were got at by the derp state.. 

The real truth is that the lizards with their spreadsheets rigged the whole thing,  why can't anybody else see it?

It was basically "The security is terrible and you let anyone vote by mail!  We can't prove fraud didn't happen, therefore the election needs to be redone."
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20776 on: September 26, 2021, 10:37:23 AM »
It was basically "The security is terrible and you let anyone vote by mail!  We can't prove fraud didn't happen, therefore the election needs to be redone."
In any event of that size, some level of fraud is inevitable.  The real question always has been, and remains: was there enough fraud to affect the outcome?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20777 on: September 26, 2021, 11:06:06 AM »
It was basically "The security is terrible and you let anyone vote by mail!  We can't prove fraud didn't happen, therefore the election needs to be redone."
In any event of that size, some level of fraud is inevitable.  The real question always has been, and remains: was there enough fraud to affect the outcome?

The report is very clear that no verifiable fraud was found. Because they couldn't prove anything,  just bad practices relating to security and people who moved out of county/state but voted, some double ballots, etc...  No word on if those ballots got counted.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20778 on: September 26, 2021, 12:49:30 PM »
It was basically "The security is terrible and you let anyone vote by mail!  We can't prove fraud didn't happen, therefore the election needs to be redone."
In any event of that size, some level of fraud is inevitable.  The real question always has been, and remains: was there enough fraud to affect the outcome?

Thats how the trump think tanks danced around the question.
Carfeully phrased - can you prove there was NO fraud.
And always the answer was no, becaus both sidss knew there were onesey twosy cases but no mass.

Only the dumbass qanon magas took that as "see see see! They wont admot it"

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20779 on: September 28, 2021, 02:20:50 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/3-big-takeaways-mark-milley-hearing/

I haven't looked at this completely but I'm getting the impression that the MSM has been promoting a false narrative that Trump was about to Nuke China to stay in power but General Milley stopped him.

It sort of looks like China had some bad intel that we were planning on attacking them and Trump maybe wasn't very helpful about calming them down.  It also looks like everyone but Trump was in on this intervention with China.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20780 on: September 28, 2021, 03:28:47 PM »
Trump
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I think if a nuclear power saw another nuclear power try to and fail at over throwing his own govt, that 1st said power would be all nervous.

While msm drsssing up the story, I think it accurate that Tilley wanted to be in the room if trump ever decided to open the football.
I think tilley is the type who wouldve made the sacrifice of duty and put one in the back of trunps head if all options were exhausted.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20781 on: September 28, 2021, 08:51:08 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/3-big-takeaways-mark-milley-hearing/

I haven't looked at this completely but I'm getting the impression that the MSM has been promoting a false narrative that Trump was about to Nuke China to stay in power but General Milley stopped him.

It sort of looks like China had some bad intel that we were planning on attacking them and Trump maybe wasn't very helpful about calming them down.  It also looks like everyone but Trump was in on this intervention with China.

Trump is deranged and unhinged. I think given his rhetoric at the time, China had cause for concern.

Also, what would happen if on the eve of having to transfer power, Trump decided to 'Nuke China'? Let's say his Generals were were sheep and did it the day before inauguration day? Would that still go ahead?

I can picture a man baby Trump threatening to burn the world if he didn't get what he wanted.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20782 on: September 28, 2021, 09:28:11 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/3-big-takeaways-mark-milley-hearing/

I haven't looked at this completely but I'm getting the impression that the MSM has been promoting a false narrative that Trump was about to Nuke China to stay in power but General Milley stopped him.

It sort of looks like China had some bad intel that we were planning on attacking them and Trump maybe wasn't very helpful about calming them down.  It also looks like everyone but Trump was in on this intervention with China.

Trump is deranged and unhinged. I think given his rhetoric at the time, China had cause for concern.

Also, what would happen if on the eve of having to transfer power, Trump decided to 'Nuke China'? Let's say his Generals were were sheep and did it the day before inauguration day? Would that still go ahead?

I can picture a man baby Trump threatening to burn the world if he didn't get what he wanted.

Apparently his generals would not.  When you have a hammer everything looks like a nail.  These generals probably assumed that Trump would hold onto power by abusing the military so they planned for it.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20783 on: September 28, 2021, 10:17:38 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/3-big-takeaways-mark-milley-hearing/

I haven't looked at this completely but I'm getting the impression that the MSM has been promoting a false narrative that Trump was about to Nuke China to stay in power but General Milley stopped him.

It sort of looks like China had some bad intel that we were planning on attacking them and Trump maybe wasn't very helpful about calming them down.  It also looks like everyone but Trump was in on this intervention with China.

Trump is deranged and unhinged. I think given his rhetoric at the time, China had cause for concern.

Also, what would happen if on the eve of having to transfer power, Trump decided to 'Nuke China'? Let's say his Generals were were sheep and did it the day before inauguration day? Would that still go ahead?

I can picture a man baby Trump threatening to burn the world if he didn't get what he wanted.

Nah.  Talking him out of it is easy:

"Sir, if we Nuke China, they'll nuke your properties.  It'll make them worthless."
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20784 on: September 28, 2021, 10:31:40 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/3-big-takeaways-mark-milley-hearing/

I haven't looked at this completely but I'm getting the impression that the MSM has been promoting a false narrative that Trump was about to Nuke China to stay in power but General Milley stopped him.

It sort of looks like China had some bad intel that we were planning on attacking them and Trump maybe wasn't very helpful about calming them down.  It also looks like everyone but Trump was in on this intervention with China.

Trump is deranged and unhinged. I think given his rhetoric at the time, China had cause for concern.

Also, what would happen if on the eve of having to transfer power, Trump decided to 'Nuke China'? Let's say his Generals were were sheep and did it the day before inauguration day? Would that still go ahead?

I can picture a man baby Trump threatening to burn the world if he didn't get what he wanted.

Apparently his generals would not.  When you have a hammer everything looks like a nail.  These generals probably assumed that Trump would hold onto power by abusing the military so they planned for it.

Well you can't blame China from seeking assurances. Trump is unpredictable and an compulsive liar

But thank God that you guys have some level heads behind the scenes

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20785 on: September 29, 2021, 06:39:42 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/3-big-takeaways-mark-milley-hearing/

I haven't looked at this completely but I'm getting the impression that the MSM has been promoting a false narrative that Trump was about to Nuke China to stay in power but General Milley stopped him.

It sort of looks like China had some bad intel that we were planning on attacking them and Trump maybe wasn't very helpful about calming them down.  It also looks like everyone but Trump was in on this intervention with China.
I don't recall hearing from the MSM that Trump was on the verge of nuking China and Milley intervened.  I understood it to be China thinking Trump was going to, Trump not helping things, and Milley stepping in to assure China that no nuking was going to happen (which happens to be your summary of the situation).  Maybe some of the more provocative talking heads spun it to be Trump on the verge of launching a nuke, but more levelheaded reporting definitely didn't take it that route.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20786 on: September 29, 2021, 06:52:31 AM »
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20787 on: September 29, 2021, 05:12:12 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/3-big-takeaways-mark-milley-hearing/

I haven't looked at this completely but I'm getting the impression that the MSM has been promoting a false narrative that Trump was about to Nuke China to stay in power but General Milley stopped him.

It sort of looks like China had some bad intel that we were planning on attacking them and Trump maybe wasn't very helpful about calming them down.  It also looks like everyone but Trump was in on this intervention with China.
I don't recall hearing from the MSM that Trump was on the verge of nuking China and Milley intervened.  I understood it to be China thinking Trump was going to, Trump not helping things, and Milley stepping in to assure China that no nuking was going to happen (which happens to be your summary of the situation).  Maybe some of the more provocative talking heads spun it to be Trump on the verge of launching a nuke, but more levelheaded reporting definitely didn't take it that route.

China was more than aware of Trump's unstable state of mind,  just like the rest of the planet was at the time.  He went completely bonkers towards the end and it's good to know that there were people like Milley around.

The worst crime the right wing maga media has done however, it to politicize the vaccine.  Thousands of Americans are dying every day from a preventable disease. 

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20788 on: September 29, 2021, 11:27:39 PM »
So Trump tried to supress whistleblower complaints about Russian disinformation.   



I'm not saying it was the Russians, but it was the Russians....
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20789 on: October 03, 2021, 04:01:29 AM »
I'm sure you've all seen this news.

Trump asks US judge to force Twitter to restore his account

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-business-miami-florida-3d0458f63413d33ae370ff6ba7fdccaf?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP

Personally,  I would love for Trump to be back on twitter,  just for the entertainment value,  he's always good for a laugh.
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