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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
22 (26.5%)
I want him to fight terrorism
12 (14.5%)
Free trade is bad
6 (7.2%)
He is the wild card we need
43 (51.8%)

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Why do you support donald trump

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JerkFace

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20340 on: March 01, 2021, 05:12:02 PM »
Well, it was no accident.  The Odal rune shaped stage was deliberate.  These scumbags are heavily into symbols and stuff.  To design a stage in the shape of a Nazi symbol would be right up their alley.



Who made the statement in the image? I mean, which group? Is that from the Proud Boys?

That is from the NSM "National Socialist Movement"  aka Nazi's

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)
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On February 28, 2019, the Associated Press reported that, according to Michigan corporate records, Jeff Schoep had been replaced as director and president of the NSM in January by James Hart Stern, a black activist. Stern became its leader after receiving a call for help from Schoep who wanted to get out of the organization due to the legal issues that were mounting against it,[17] and he has said that he wants to use his position to undermine the group. Stern had previously been instrumental in dissolving a chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in Michigan.[note 1] Stern wrote in a blog post in February that he had worked with Schoep to replace the Nazi swastika as the group's symbol with an Odal rune, and that he would be meeting with Schoep to sign a proclamation in which the movement would disavow white supremacy.[15][16]

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20341 on: March 01, 2021, 06:39:22 PM »
Yeah, the odal isn't just an obscure third rate symbol, it's the main Nazi symbol since 2016.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20342 on: March 01, 2021, 08:45:52 PM »
Is it just me, or does it seem that Trump isn't quite as orange as he used to be?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20343 on: March 02, 2021, 08:07:25 AM »
Is it just me, or does it seem that Trump isn't quite as orange as he used to be?


He has time to do the expensive spray on tan.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20344 on: March 02, 2021, 01:00:28 PM »
He has time to do the expensive spray on tan.
I guess it just seems a bit weird that he looks less tan now that he's living in Florida.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20345 on: March 09, 2021, 10:55:38 AM »
Looks like Trump is getting ready to commit election fraud, again.  :o
Former President Donald Trump is set to fulfill his civic duty as a private citizen and vote in the town of Palm Beach's municipal election.

Despite his false claims about mail voting during the 2020 election cycle, Trump requested a mail ballot on Friday for the third time in his Palm Beach County voter history.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20346 on: March 09, 2021, 01:40:19 PM »
I wonder if his address is listed as Mar-a-Lago, as I seem to recall something in their bylaws which does not allow for Mar-a-Lago to be used as a primary residence.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20347 on: March 09, 2021, 02:40:45 PM »
When has something so trivial as rules ever stopped Trump? ???
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20348 on: March 09, 2021, 09:36:12 PM »
I wonder if his address is listed as Mar-a-Lago, as I seem to recall something in their bylaws which does not allow for Mar-a-Lago to be used as a primary residence.
It is and you are correct.  He technically illegally voted in the november election also.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20349 on: March 10, 2021, 12:27:39 AM »
Well yeah but he only did that to study the mind of a serial election fraud.  It's the only way to defeat them. 

Sort of like how he got covid so he could figure out a vaccine for it.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20350 on: March 10, 2021, 01:12:58 AM »
I wonder if his address is listed as Mar-a-Lago, as I seem to recall something in their bylaws which does not allow for Mar-a-Lago to be used as a primary residence.
It is and you are correct.  He technically illegally voted in the november election also.

That makes his claims of a rigged and fraudulent election true afterall...... LOL
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markjo

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20351 on: March 10, 2021, 06:16:24 AM »
I wonder if his address is listed as Mar-a-Lago, as I seem to recall something in their bylaws which does not allow for Mar-a-Lago to be used as a primary residence.
It is and you are correct.  He technically illegally voted in the november election also.
As I understand it, Florida doesn't require a legal residence as your mailing address for mail in voting.  However, it is ironic that Trump would smack talk mail in voting so much and still request a mail in ballot.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20352 on: March 10, 2021, 07:21:34 AM »
I wonder if his address is listed as Mar-a-Lago, as I seem to recall something in their bylaws which does not allow for Mar-a-Lago to be used as a primary residence.
It is and you are correct.  He technically illegally voted in the november election also.
As I understand it, Florida doesn't require a legal residence as your mailing address for mail in voting.  However, it is ironic that Trump would smack talk mail in voting so much and still request a mail in ballot.
How does this work when your legal residence is what determines which district you vote in for local, state, and national elections?  Someone could live in one district, have a mailing address in another district, and vote in the mailing address district even though they don't reside in it?
markjo, what force can not pass through a solid or liquid?
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markjo

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20353 on: March 10, 2021, 08:22:14 AM »
I wonder if his address is listed as Mar-a-Lago, as I seem to recall something in their bylaws which does not allow for Mar-a-Lago to be used as a primary residence.
It is and you are correct.  He technically illegally voted in the november election also.
As I understand it, Florida doesn't require a legal residence as your mailing address for mail in voting.  However, it is ironic that Trump would smack talk mail in voting so much and still request a mail in ballot.
How does this work when your legal residence is what determines which district you vote in for local, state, and national elections?  Someone could live in one district, have a mailing address in another district, and vote in the mailing address district even though they don't reside in it?
Well, Trump did live in DC for 4 years but voted in NY and Florida during that time, so...
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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DuckDodgers

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20354 on: March 10, 2021, 08:31:11 AM »
I wonder if his address is listed as Mar-a-Lago, as I seem to recall something in their bylaws which does not allow for Mar-a-Lago to be used as a primary residence.
It is and you are correct.  He technically illegally voted in the november election also.
As I understand it, Florida doesn't require a legal residence as your mailing address for mail in voting.  However, it is ironic that Trump would smack talk mail in voting so much and still request a mail in ballot.
How does this work when your legal residence is what determines which district you vote in for local, state, and national elections?  Someone could live in one district, have a mailing address in another district, and vote in the mailing address district even though they don't reside in it?
Well, Trump did live in DC for 4 years but voted in NY and Florida during that time, so...
Well yes, but there are very clear rules set up for elected officials that their residences in DC do not constitute a primary residence for the purposes of state of residence or voting, which is why members of the House are still able to run for office in their districts even after they get into DC.  That is hardly the same thing.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20355 on: March 10, 2021, 12:04:34 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/09/975341543/no-more-money-for-rinos-how-trumps-fight-with-the-gop-is-all-about-control

This quote basically sums it up:
 "I fully support the Republican Party and important GOP Committees, but I do not support RINOs and fools, and it is not their right to use my likeness or image to raise funds. So much money is being raised and completely wasted by people that do not have the GOP's best interests in mind."

Personally, I'm not shocked.  Trump is litereally trying to ensure he isn't linked to "losers".  Like any republican that loses.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20356 on: March 10, 2021, 12:55:19 PM »
The worst part about that is "conservatives" are fully embracing this and applauding Trump.  It's one thing to see and think that Trump has taken control of the Republican party, it's another thing to have confirmation of it.  Republicans are no longer about anything more than attacking liberals, plain and simple.
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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20357 on: March 10, 2021, 08:43:23 PM »
The worst part about that is "conservatives" are fully embracing this and applauding Trump.  It's one thing to see and think that Trump has taken control of the Republican party, it's another thing to have confirmation of it.  Republicans are no longer about anything more than attacking liberals, plain and simple.

Sad, but True.
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Jamie

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20358 on: March 11, 2021, 05:48:05 AM »
I wonder where exactly it all went wrong: Did the education system fail half the country? Is the church too influential and powerful? Just what is it?

Or is it some conglomeration of factors far more subtle that we can only hope to guess at? Is there a way out of this shit?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20359 on: March 11, 2021, 06:05:39 AM »
I wonder where exactly it all went wrong: Did the education system fail half the country? Is the church too influential and powerful? Just what is it?

Or is it some conglomeration of factors far more subtle that we can only hope to guess at? Is there a way out of this shit?
I'm far underqualified to give a definitive answer to this, as I have done very little research into the matter, but I think it might have started with WWRD or what would Reagan do?  Once you start to deify a politician it will naturally lead to the corruption of the party, especially once that politician passes away and can no longer update their stances given the current societal climate.

Every Republican is trying to be the next Reagan in the eyes of their voters, but there is no way of knowing if Reagan would still hold the same stances today that he did when president.  It also leads to the party no longer standing for a policy matter and instead the party is whatever the leader says it is (and keep in mind, I'm not claiming Democrats are immune to this, but they currently don't seem to have a leader like what Trump has been able to do).

This gradual shift away from policy and instead to leader rule can work so long as the leader is a reasonable person who knows that they are human and can be wrong and are willing to shift their ideas given new evidence, a quality that is completely nonexistent in Trump.  This lack of humility may have actually been what lead to his rise to power.  Many Republicans have decried the "weak" Republican presidential players of late and their complete lack of willingness to toss cooperation to the side.  In walks Trump who "says it like it is" and "says the things I like and attacks the people I don't like".  The focus on fear of illegal immigration, the fear of changes in society (such as gay marriage, trans people in general, and globalized economies), and turning everything into a fight of good and evil, with the other side being evil, naturally leads to what has happened.

On a side note, you might also be able to point to the rise of the 24 hour news cycle as the real catalyst for what's happening today.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20360 on: March 11, 2021, 06:16:04 AM »
I'll buy that.
There is a preverb in Turkish:  "Do not think everybody have beard is your grandfather".

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20361 on: March 11, 2021, 06:27:31 AM »
The education standards in America also dont rate very highly. This plays into the repugnican party and the church as poor education outcomes means less people are able to think critically. Critical thinkers usually dont buy into religious zealotry or political spin jobs that are a stark contrast to science, truth or facts (eg climate change or pandemic threats)

https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-is-losing-its-competitive-advantage-3306225
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Despite the low scores dating back decades, some Americans see no problem with the state of U.S. education. In 2008, nearly half of those who participated in an Associated Press poll said that American studentsí achievement test scores were the same as or better than those of children in other industrialized nations. However, 90% of them recognized that education helps economic growth.

The truth is that the U.S. ranks near the bottom in a survey of studentsí math skills in 30 industrialized countries. Instead of knowing and confronting the facts, many Americans are in denial. In fact, the same survey showed that while one-third believed their schools were excellent, only one-sixth believed the same of any other schools.

One reason for this: Many states don't invest in education. The states that are poorest have lower education scores. This cycle creates structural inequality.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20362 on: March 11, 2021, 11:21:03 AM »
Fox news.
Go watch the "how fox brainwashed my dad" documentary.

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Lorddave

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20363 on: March 11, 2021, 01:48:28 PM »
The education standards in America also dont rate very highly. This plays into the repugnican party and the church as poor education outcomes means less people are able to think critically. Critical thinkers usually dont buy into religious zealotry or political spin jobs that are a stark contrast to science, truth or facts (eg climate change or pandemic threats)

https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-is-losing-its-competitive-advantage-3306225
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Despite the low scores dating back decades, some Americans see no problem with the state of U.S. education. In 2008, nearly half of those who participated in an Associated Press poll said that American studentsí achievement test scores were the same as or better than those of children in other industrialized nations. However, 90% of them recognized that education helps economic growth.

The truth is that the U.S. ranks near the bottom in a survey of studentsí math skills in 30 industrialized countries. Instead of knowing and confronting the facts, many Americans are in denial. In fact, the same survey showed that while one-third believed their schools were excellent, only one-sixth believed the same of any other schools.

One reason for this: Many states don't invest in education. The states that are poorest have lower education scores. This cycle creates structural inequality.

In fairness, part of this is unintentional.
Funding for education is one of the first things cut from state budgets.  And when the feds and local groups both cut funding, the state can't pick up the slack so funding is cut deeeppp.

Fun fact: public school budgets are the only public budget voted on directly.  Every.  Damn.  Year.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20364 on: March 13, 2021, 09:29:21 PM »
Good summary of how a con man takes everybody down. 

https://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/watch/gotcha-gop-folds-after-placing-a-bad-bet-on-donald-trump-106017861754

The GOP will most likely be broke and desperately dependant on Trump by the time 2022 mid-terms roll around.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20365 on: March 14, 2021, 05:30:45 AM »
Haha trump is maga'ing by taking out the repubs.
He should be creditted as such.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20366 on: March 14, 2021, 07:43:55 AM »
He did promise to drain the swamp, maybe he meant by destroying the Republican party?

Sigh, who am I kidding. They aren't going anywhere, they are just being taken over by more extreme right wingers. Again. I suspect all the moderates are going to quietly resign and people like Marjorie Greene will be running (ruining) things.  Yay.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20367 on: March 14, 2021, 08:21:17 AM »
Yeup.

That's what I did anyway. I quietly resigned.

I was already voting for a mix of the parties, but now? I have to be particularly suspicious about the Republicans on my ticket.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20368 on: March 15, 2021, 05:08:05 AM »
LOL  The GOP is willingly allowing itself to be screwed.



Meanwhile I'm still getting scamming emails..   All pretty much the same grift

 

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #20369 on: March 15, 2021, 05:15:41 AM »
Why donate ASAP when I can donate to the ASPCA?
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