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Why do you support Donald Trump?

I don't want mexicans to come
20 (26.7%)
I want him to fight terrorism
11 (14.7%)
Free trade is bad
5 (6.7%)
He is the wild card we need
39 (52%)

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Why do you support donald trump

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16830 on: November 17, 2019, 04:06:44 PM »
Hmmm. It seems nature will kindly assassinate Trump so I don't think you need to worry about '4 more years'.

Good.

No no no,  he should be exposed and put on trial for the corrupt criminal that he is.   

If he just keels over and karks it, the loony right will claim he was assassinated or the pressure of impeachment was too much for him, and turn him into some kind of cult hero,  the world doesn't need that sort of crap.

I suppose that's true

Can we have it both ways? Goes to trial - to proud to resign so gets impeached and then keels over and karks it?

Please?


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16832 on: November 18, 2019, 01:13:04 PM »
Hmmm. It seems nature will kindly assassinate Trump so I don't think you need to worry about '4 more years'.

Good.

No no no,  he should be exposed and put on trial for the corrupt criminal that he is.
Unless Pence pardons him first.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16833 on: November 18, 2019, 02:37:20 PM »


I've missed Steve Bannon.  This is some well crafted propaganda.  As opposed to Kelly Ann Conway who flat out denies reality.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16834 on: November 19, 2019, 02:28:07 AM »
Democrats Offer Trump Chance To Testify, And He Says He Might Do It In Writing https://n.pr/32Zyur1


Summary:
Trump: This is a hoax!  No due process!
Dems: Ok, we invite you to testify and tell your side.
Trump: I might do it, but only in writing. ((So my lawyers can write my answers))

Trump earlier in the month:  "The Whistleblower gave false information & dealt with corrupt politician Schiff. He must be brought forward to testify. Written answers not acceptable! Where is the 2nd Whistleblower? He disappeared after I released the transcript. Does he even exist? Where is the informant? Con!"


So basic Trump: Too cowardly to testify in public but happy to complain about others doing the same.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16835 on: November 19, 2019, 10:19:11 AM »
And in other news, it's cold outside.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16836 on: November 19, 2019, 10:50:16 AM »
And in other news, it's cold outside.

Is it? It's supposed to be in the mid-70s here today and tomorrow.
You just got Weskered, bitches!

Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16837 on: November 20, 2019, 06:38:31 AM »
The gist of the impeachment hearings:

If you want to avoid any type of investigations, simply declare yourself to be a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, particularly if your son (and frankly, you too) is a known shitbag.

That way, if anyone hints at an investigation into any possible shenanigans, you can claim it is simply politically motivated

Sums it up pretty nice I think...

Regrettably, for the Russian trolls here, not impeachable conduct...
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16838 on: November 20, 2019, 06:42:04 AM »
The gist of the impeachment hearings:

If you want to avoid any type of investigations, simply declare yourself to be a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, particularly if your son (and frankly, you too) is a known shitbag.
What evidence do you have that Hunter Biden did anything wrong?  If nepotism is wrong, then what are Ivanka and Jared doing in the White House?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16839 on: November 20, 2019, 07:01:32 AM »
The gist of the impeachment hearings:

If you want to avoid any type of investigations, simply declare yourself to be a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, particularly if your son (and frankly, you too) is a known shitbag.
What evidence do you have that Hunter Biden did anything wrong?
Not sure as to the depth of evidence.

I do know his father intervened to stop the potential digging.

Held up 1 billion USD in aid if the person threatening to investigate was not fired.

Bragged about it.
If nepotism is wrong, then what are Ivanka and Jared doing in the White House?
What does nepotism have to do with anything?

Are you claiming Joe Biden works (or worked) for Burisma?
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16840 on: November 20, 2019, 07:07:03 AM »
The gist of the impeachment hearings:

If you want to avoid any type of investigations, simply declare yourself to be a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, particularly if your son (and frankly, you too) is a known shitbag.
What evidence do you have that Hunter Biden did anything wrong?  If nepotism is wrong, then what are Ivanka and Jared doing in the White House?
What does nepotism have to do with anything?

Are you claiming Joe Biden works (or worked) for Burisma?
Do you think that Trump would have given the tiniest of shits about the Burisma corruption if Joe Biden's son wasn't on the board for a while?

Do you have a direct issue with the gist of the hearings or are you back simply depositing your used diapers on the boards?
I have a direct issue with hypocrisy. 
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16841 on: November 20, 2019, 07:12:34 AM »
The gist of the impeachment hearings:

If you want to avoid any type of investigations, simply declare yourself to be a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, particularly if your son (and frankly, you too) is a known shitbag.
What evidence do you have that Hunter Biden did anything wrong?
Not sure as to the depth of evidence.
So then you're just fishing.  Good to know.

I do know his father intervened to stop the potential digging.
Oh?  How do you know this?  Were you privy to the scope and/or details of the investigation?

Held up 1 billion USD in aid if the person threatening to investigate was not fired.
From what I heard, the person investigating the corruption was fired because he was corrupt himself.

Bragged about it.
Oh?  Citation, please.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16842 on: November 20, 2019, 07:20:47 AM »
Do you think that Trump would have given the tiniest of shits about the Burisma corruption if Joe Biden's son wasn't on the board for a while?
Yes, I do.

And so did Joe, actually.

That is why he wanted the old AG fired.
Do you have a direct issue with the gist of the hearings or are you back simply depositing your used diapers on the boards?
I have a direct issue with hypocrisy.
I can see why.

You encounter it everyday you use the mirror to shave.

Must be terrible.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16843 on: November 20, 2019, 07:25:53 AM »
The gist of the impeachment hearings:

If you want to avoid any type of investigations, simply declare yourself to be a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States, particularly if your son (and frankly, you too) is a known shitbag.
What evidence do you have that Hunter Biden did anything wrong?
Not sure as to the depth of evidence.
So then you're just fishing.  Good to know.
The good thing is we have a people in office who are also looking, or fishing, as you the frequently inebriated and dullard crowd, such as you and your ilk, like to call it.
I do know his father intervened to stop the potential digging.
Oh?  How do you know this?  Were you privy to the scope and/or details of the investigation?
On tape, hayseed.
Held up 1 billion USD in aid if the person threatening to investigate was not fired.
From what I heard, the person investigating the corruption was fired because he was corrupt himself.
Not so, there are documents indicating otherwise.
Bragged about it.
Oh?  Citation, please.
On tape. Look it up yourself, you lazy bastard.
The NIST report(s) never went through what we would call peer review (Much like an FAA crash report doesn't either). But reports based upon NIST findings have.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16844 on: November 20, 2019, 07:35:43 AM »
Biden did, in fact, threaten the aid if said persecutor was not fired.
Said persecutor was ultra corrupt and basically every European nation wanted him gone so not just Biden.

Ukraine investigated Biden and his son afterwards and found no wrong doings.  Total exoneration.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16845 on: November 20, 2019, 07:43:52 AM »
According to this timeline, the prosecutor was fired after the investigation ended and Burisma was cleared of corruption.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16846 on: November 20, 2019, 09:15:53 AM »
I do know his father intervened to stop the potential digging.
Lol.

The "prosecutor" that he wanted removed never prosecuted anyone.  Even in surreally corrupt Ukraine, Shokin was a laughing stock.  The IMF, EU and most Western governments wanted him gone as well - not sure they all had sons on the board of Burisma.  Obviously the people in power in Ukraine are all corrupt, so they put an ineffectual, corrupt guy in place while pretending to do something about it.

No doubt that Burisma is corrupt - everything in Ukraine is corrupt.  My brother runs a language school there - it's corrupt, as there is literally no other way to operate.  Everyone is paid in brown envelopes and if you don't pay the right people, you get shut down.  But thinking Burisma will get prosecuted?  Hahaha, no way.   And especially no way a rich yank like Hunter would ever be done - he'd just waltz off to his next lucrative position.

Biden is guilty of nepotism, but that seems to be the American Way, and considered totally normal most of the time.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16847 on: November 20, 2019, 01:09:31 PM »
https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1197202729334128642?s=20

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President #DonaldTrump holds notes while speaking to the media before departing the White House for Texas

I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16848 on: November 20, 2019, 01:56:30 PM »
I seriously thought it was photoshopped but nope.  100% authentic.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16849 on: November 20, 2019, 02:00:49 PM »
Do you see the edge of the printed out tweet under his notepad? I wonder if there's a single tweet on each page.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16850 on: November 20, 2019, 02:16:59 PM »
Trump-Pence 2020!!!
You just got Weskered, bitches!

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16851 on: November 20, 2019, 02:22:25 PM »
https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1197202729334128642?s=20

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President #DonaldTrump holds notes while speaking to the media before departing the White House for Texas


This sounds suspiciously like the words Sondland used today in the hearing, almost verbatim.

Speaking of which, is there anyone else who doubts Trump would have used the phrase quid pro quo without kind of being coached to use it? Sondland said the President did not want a quid pro quo, which I highly doubt Trump would have actually said those words. The "I want nothing. I just want them to do the right thing" part sounds like something he would say.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16852 on: November 20, 2019, 02:35:23 PM »
https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1197202729334128642?s=20

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President #DonaldTrump holds notes while speaking to the media before departing the White House for Texas


This sounds suspiciously like the words Sondland used today in the hearing, almost verbatim.

Speaking of which, is there anyone else who doubts Trump would have used the phrase quid pro quo without kind of being coached to use it? Sondland said the President did not want a quid pro quo, which I highly doubt Trump would have actually said those words. The "I want nothing. I just want them to do the right thing" part sounds like something he would say.


How does he need to write that down. He can't commit a few words to memory?

Honestly that bloke has dementia if he can't remember that. Another hint at his loosening or missing screws upstairs is how childish it's written. Honestly my 6 year old writes more coherently and neater than that.


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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16853 on: November 20, 2019, 02:45:39 PM »
According to Obama's old doctor, Trump might be having "small strokes", which would supposedly explain a lot about his behavior.
https://www.newsweek.com/ex-obama-doctor-worried-about-trumps-alleged-inability-find-words-suggests-hes-having-small-1472561
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16854 on: November 20, 2019, 03:40:23 PM »


It's even worse when you watch him read his notes.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16855 on: November 20, 2019, 03:46:04 PM »
Sounds like slam poetry.  Someone needs to autotune that.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16856 on: November 20, 2019, 04:35:46 PM »
Sounds like slam poetry.  Someone needs to autotune that.

So it was just his reply in Sondland's testimony.    As quoted by Sondland.   Seems legit.

In other news.   Does anybody make sense of the GOP conspiracy that the DNC hacked themselves to make Hillary lose,  and frame Russia for it?

Even in the bizzarro world of Trumpkins,  that makes no sense. 

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16857 on: November 20, 2019, 06:34:01 PM »
I've been especially enjoying Devin Nunes's defense.  Where he seems to believe that he's trapped in the Truman Show.
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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16858 on: November 20, 2019, 09:25:09 PM »
I had to read some context but now I understand.

Trump told Sondland that the same day the house and senate was notified of the whistleblower report.  So it sounds more like a "Shit, I need to fix this fast." Instead of "This has always been my message."

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Re: Why do you support donald trump
« Reply #16859 on: November 20, 2019, 10:54:32 PM »
Ohhhhhh, politics.    :-\

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