Interesting vid on angular momentum in space

A gyroscope made of CD players...

How would this one work according to FE?

That video is so sickeningly pathetic that I fail to see how even naive people don't see through the absolute silliness of it all.

What is your problem with it?

What is your problem with it?

That he doesn't agree. Seriously, that's it.

Quote from: palmerito0 on July 02, 2016, 01:16:16 PM

What is your problem with it?

That he doesn't agree. Seriously, that's it.

He simply doesn't understand the significance of it!
Just like when some see a picture like this and simply cannot see the most significant features - the tiny stationary white dots!

You can see the most of the satellites lined up along the earth's equator, and the others are following analemmas, as geosynchronous satellites do.  Each of these satellites can be tied to a specific launch.  They can't be natural satellites, because they only started appearing when we started launching them, and they are in orbits that were carefully chosen for their intended purpose, as are all artificial satellites.  It's much easier to observe lower satellites, though.  Geostationary satellites are too far away to get anything but a faint image.

Some see the significance of those "little lights in the sky", and some are so close minded and blinkered that they mean nothing!

That video is so sickeningly pathetic that I fail to see how even naive people don't see through the absolute silliness of it all.

Scepti, do you disagree with gyroscopic stability?

the tiny stationary white dots!

Quote from: Blue_Moon on April 20, 2016, 01:08:05 PM

Those tiny white dots are hauling ass!   

Quote from: rabinoz on July 03, 2016, 05:12:14 AM

the tiny stationary white dots!

Quote from: Blue_Moon on April 20, 2016, 01:08:05 PM

Those tiny white dots are hauling ass!   

They are merely stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites for the globe deception. 

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 05, 2016, 07:33:31 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 03, 2016, 05:12:14 AM

the tiny stationary white dots!

Quote from: Blue_Moon on April 20, 2016, 01:08:05 PM

Those tiny white dots are hauling ass!   

They are merely stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites for the globe deception. 

Triangulation from dish angles puts those " stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites  " at the right altitude to be in geosynchronous orbit.

A geostationary equatorial orbit (GEO) is a circular geosynchronous orbit in the plane of the Earth's equator with a radius of approximately 42,164 km (26,199 mi) (measured from the center of the Earth). A satellite in such an orbit is at an altitude of approximately 35,786 km (22,236 mi) above mean sea level.

Still any old bit of guesswork to stop the flat earthers from thinking.

I have noticed a few of your other posts and you seem to be dragging out all the old ideas that have been answered dozens of times.
Maybe you should wait till you get through the third level before making serious posts.

See if this post means anything to you

OK, here it is - your proof that satellite dishes are point at the same object. I am using towns at the 97° longitude to make this a 2D trigonometric problem:

You'll need to go and look at it.

Quote from: Thanos on July 08, 2016, 05:17:32 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 05, 2016, 07:33:31 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 03, 2016, 05:12:14 AM

the tiny stationary white dots!

Quote from: Blue_Moon on April 20, 2016, 01:08:05 PM

Those tiny white dots are hauling ass!   

They are merely stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites for the globe deception. 

Triangulation from dish angles puts those " stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites  " at the right altitude to be in geosynchronous orbit.

Quote from: Wikipedia

A geostationary equatorial orbit (GEO) is a circular geosynchronous orbit in the plane of the Earth's equator with a radius of approximately 42,164 km (26,199 mi) (measured from the center of the Earth). A satellite in such an orbit is at an altitude of approximately 35,786 km (22,236 mi) above mean sea level.

So you are guessing that there are blimps at an altitude of 35,786 km!  not much air there!

Still any old bit of guesswork to stop the flat earthers from thinking.

I have noticed a few of your other posts and you seem to be dragging out all the old ideas that have been answered dozens of times.

You must have just graduated from the "Flat Earther Indoctrination Course 101"!

Maybe you should wait till you get through the third level before making serious posts.

See if this post means anything to you

Quote from: Jadyyn on November 03, 2015, 04:52:17 PM

OK, here it is - your proof that satellite dishes are point at the same object. I am using towns at the 97° longitude to make this a 2D trigonometric problem:

You'll need to go and look at it.

Obviously you need to do more research into HAPS "High altitude platform station" blimps that reach 50Km. As someone that studied Aerospace Engineering nearly 10 years ago I will provide a little lesson of how things really work.

HAPS offer all the same data transmission capabilites of "satellites," are routinely positioned 20-50Km, AND have outrageous benefits:
- They are orders of magnitude cheaper
- They can be landed for repairs and upgrades
-  rapidly deployable and replaceable without launch platforms 

Now think about those practical benefits for a moment...  You really think that Government agencies and corporations have been blowing $50-500 million a pop on 2,271 fragile, impractical, non-upgradable satellites? haha

Quite the opposite. For about $200K a HAPS blimp you can have 2,271 blimp "satelite" platforms deployed for only $454,200,000. Less then the price of a single staged $500 million shuttle launch! Think about the magnitude of that and the money laundry opportunities of such a scam.

BTW take a good look at these two articles and the conflicting stories.  One claims that Google will use 180 satellites to provide free internet while the other claims they will use HAPS platforms. Very interesting isn't it? 

"Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) supports the idea of the FCC authorizing resources for the study of broadband delivered from high-altitude platform stations (HAPS), which are 20 to 50 kilometers above ground." (hmm satellite dishs aimed at 35km objects would work with this right? lol)

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/google-pushes-fcc-study-high-altitude-platform-stations-broadband-services/2015-05-20
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2646039/Googles-plans-world-domination-Search-giant-launch-180-satellites-bring-internet-access-ENTIRE-planet.html

Now think about those practical benefits for a moment...  You really think that Government agencies and corporations have been blowing $50-500 million a pop on 2,271 fragile, impractical, non-upgradable satellites?

No, of course not.  Instead all the world's major governments and coporations are involved in a massive conspiracy involving millions of people across decades and involving hundreds of billions of dollars spent.  They are all in fact using 10s of thousands of invisible blimps whilst pretending to use satellites.  Why do they do this?  Well, reasons.

Quite the opposite. For about $200K a HAPS blimp

Based on?

BTW take a good look at these two articles and the conflicting stories.  One claims that Google will use 180 satellites to provide free internet while the other claims they will use HAPS platforms. Very interesting isn't it? 

Yeah, it is.  And is completely against your claims.  The  first article is about how they don't even have regulatory clearance for blimps, but would like to.  The second article is about how they are launching 180 low earth satellites.

So, your own links confirm that they are not using blimps, but are using satellites.  Are you trolling?

Quote from: rabinoz on July 08, 2016, 11:07:30 PM

Quote from: Thanos on July 08, 2016, 05:17:32 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 05, 2016, 07:33:31 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 03, 2016, 05:12:14 AM

the tiny stationary white dots!

Quote from: Blue_Moon on April 20, 2016, 01:08:05 PM

Those tiny white dots are hauling ass!   

They are merely stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites for the globe deception. 

Triangulation from dish angles puts those " stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites  " at the right altitude to be in geosynchronous orbit.

Quote from: Wikipedia

A geostationary equatorial orbit (GEO) is a circular geosynchronous orbit in the plane of the Earth's equator with a radius of approximately 42,164 km (26,199 mi) (measured from the center of the Earth). A satellite in such an orbit is at an altitude of approximately 35,786 km (22,236 mi) above mean sea level.

So you are guessing that there are blimps at an altitude of 35,786 km!  not much air there!

Still any old bit of guesswork to stop the flat earthers from thinking.

I have noticed a few of your other posts and you seem to be dragging out all the old ideas that have been answered dozens of times.

You must have just graduated from the "Flat Earther Indoctrination Course 101"!

Maybe you should wait till you get through the third level before making serious posts.

See if this post means anything to you

Quote from: Jadyyn on November 03, 2015, 04:52:17 PM

OK, here it is - your proof that satellite dishes are point at the same object. I am using towns at the 97° longitude to make this a 2D trigonometric problem:

You'll need to go and look at it.

Obviously you need to do more research into HAPS "High altitude platform station" blimps that reach 50Km. As someone that studied Aerospace Engineering nearly 10 years ago I will provide a little lesson of how things really work.

HAPS offer all the same data transmission capabilites of "satellites," are routinely positioned 20-50Km, AND have outrageous benefits:
- They are orders of magnitude cheaper
- They can be landed for repairs and upgrades
-  rapidly deployable and replaceable without launch platforms 

Now think about those practical benefits for a moment...  You really think that Government agencies and corporations have been blowing $50-500 million a pop on 2,271 fragile, impractical, non-upgradable satellites? haha

Quite the opposite. For about $200K a HAPS blimp you can have 2,271 blimp "satelite" platforms deployed for only $454,200,000. Less then the price of a single staged $500 million shuttle launch! Think about the magnitude of that and the money laundry opportunities of such a scam.

BTW take a good look at these two articles and the conflicting stories.  One claims that Google will use 180 satellites to provide free internet while the other claims they will use HAPS platforms. Very interesting isn't it? 

"Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) supports the idea of the FCC authorizing resources for the study of broadband delivered from high-altitude platform stations (HAPS), which are 20 to 50 kilometers above ground." (hmm satellite dishs aimed at 35km objects would work with this right? lol)

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/google-pushes-fcc-study-high-altitude-platform-stations-broadband-services/2015-05-20
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2646039/Googles-plans-world-domination-Search-giant-launch-180-satellites-bring-internet-access-ENTIRE-planet.html

Many things are theoretically possible. So what? Theoretically, you can build a tower for every Dish TV. So what?

Did you actually read and comprehend what the article says? "Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) supports the idea of the FCC authorizing resources for the study of broadband delivered from high-altitude platform stations (HAPS), which are 20 to 50 kilometers above ground." So they are LOOKING into STUDYING the HAPS. This does not say they actually used them. Considering you have 10 yrs of engineering, you should comprehend what you read a bit better.

We (REers) are interested in what really happens (reality - the real world, not the fantasy FE world). Companies are looking to save money all the time. If these were possible and practical, they would do it - especially if it would reduce their costs by billions of dollars. Even NASA started using reusable shuttles instead of plain rockets to reduce costs. They would not be doing this to "prove" a FE.

Regardless now-a-days, TV Dishes are using SATELLITES - specifically geostationary ones 35,000+ km above sea-level. Bye Bye FE FANTASY.

No, of course not.  Instead all the world's major governments and coporations are involved in a massive conspiracy involving millions of people across decades and involving hundreds of billions of dollars spent.  They are all in fact using 10s of thousands of invisible blimps whilst pretending to use satellites.  Why do they do this?  Well, reasons.

Politicians and world leaders from around the world have been conspiring at annual Bilderberg, Davos, and Bohemian Grove meetings for decades.  So your conspiracy dismal is without actual merit.  Also hundreds of billions shared among millions of people works out to spoils in the hundreds of thousands.  Many people would gladly make harmless PR lies about satellites for an extra hundreds of thousand in their bank account. 

Also hundreds of billions shared among millions of people works out to spoils in the hundreds of thousands.  Many people would gladly make harmless PR lies about satellites for an extra hundreds of thousand in their bank account.

Without a single whistleblower?  LOL.  The conspiracy idea is ludicrous....what the fuck is the point of it?   

Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your conspiracy speculation?


And where the fuck are these thousands of blimps?   Why can't anyone see them floating about?

Quote from: Thanos on July 09, 2016, 02:47:22 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 08, 2016, 11:07:30 PM

Quote from: Thanos on July 08, 2016, 05:17:32 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 05, 2016, 07:33:31 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 03, 2016, 05:12:14 AM

the tiny stationary white dots!

Quote from: Blue_Moon on April 20, 2016, 01:08:05 PM

Those tiny white dots are hauling ass!   

They are merely stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites for the globe deception. 

Triangulation from dish angles puts those " stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites  " at the right altitude to be in geosynchronous orbit.

Quote from: Wikipedia

A geostationary equatorial orbit (GEO) is a circular geosynchronous orbit in the plane of the Earth's equator with a radius of approximately 42,164 km (26,199 mi) (measured from the center of the Earth). A satellite in such an orbit is at an altitude of approximately 35,786 km (22,236 mi) above mean sea level.

So you are guessing that there are blimps at an altitude of 35,786 km!  not much air there!

Still any old bit of guesswork to stop the flat earthers from thinking.

I have noticed a few of your other posts and you seem to be dragging out all the old ideas that have been answered dozens of times.

You must have just graduated from the "Flat Earther Indoctrination Course 101"!

Maybe you should wait till you get through the third level before making serious posts.

See if this post means anything to you

Quote from: Jadyyn on November 03, 2015, 04:52:17 PM

OK, here it is - your proof that satellite dishes are point at the same object. I am using towns at the 97° longitude to make this a 2D trigonometric problem:

You'll need to go and look at it.

Obviously you need to do more research into HAPS "High altitude platform station" blimps that reach 50Km. As someone that studied Aerospace Engineering nearly 10 years ago I will provide a little lesson of how things really work.

HAPS offer all the same data transmission capabilites of "satellites," are routinely positioned 20-50Km, AND have outrageous benefits:
- They are orders of magnitude cheaper
- They can be landed for repairs and upgrades
-  rapidly deployable and replaceable without launch platforms 

Now think about those practical benefits for a moment...  You really think that Government agencies and corporations have been blowing $50-500 million a pop on 2,271 fragile, impractical, non-upgradable satellites? haha

Quite the opposite. For about $200K a HAPS blimp you can have 2,271 blimp "satelite" platforms deployed for only $454,200,000. Less then the price of a single staged $500 million shuttle launch! Think about the magnitude of that and the money laundry opportunities of such a scam.

BTW take a good look at these two articles and the conflicting stories.  One claims that Google will use 180 satellites to provide free internet while the other claims they will use HAPS platforms. Very interesting isn't it? 

"Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) supports the idea of the FCC authorizing resources for the study of broadband delivered from high-altitude platform stations (HAPS), which are 20 to 50 kilometers above ground." (hmm satellite dishs aimed at 35km objects would work with this right? lol)

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/google-pushes-fcc-study-high-altitude-platform-stations-broadband-services/2015-05-20
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2646039/Googles-plans-world-domination-Search-giant-launch-180-satellites-bring-internet-access-ENTIRE-planet.html

Many things are theoretically possible. So what? Theoretically, you can build a tower for every Dish TV. So what?

Did you actually read and comprehend what the article says? "Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) supports the idea of the FCC authorizing resources for the study of broadband delivered from high-altitude platform stations (HAPS), which are 20 to 50 kilometers above ground." So they are LOOKING into STUDYING the HAPS. This does not say they actually used them. Considering you have 10 yrs of engineering, you should comprehend what you read a bit better.

We (REers) are interested in what really happens (reality - the real world, not the fantasy FE world). Companies are looking to save money all the time. If these were possible and practical, they would do it - especially if it would reduce their costs by billions of dollars. Even NASA started using reusable shuttles instead of plain rockets to reduce costs. They would not be doing this to "prove" a FE.

Regardless now-a-days, TV Dishes are using SATELLITES - specifically geostationary ones 35,000+ km above sea-level. Bye Bye FE FANTASY.

It shows that LEO satellites are completely unnecessary thanks to high altitude airship technology that has been around for decades before Arthur C. Clark introduced satellites as a Science Fiction concept.

Google knows HAPS work and are filing the paperwork with the FCC to use them. That certainly points to plans to use them.

So lets be clear you actually believe there is a Galaxy 19 satellite at a low earth orbit of 42 Km since 2008?  Do you realize the Karman space line and effects of gravity reach up to 100km?  Either Galaxy 19 magically has enough fuel for 8 years of constant thrust to fly with or it floats on hot air like a blimp. haha

Galaxy 19 is in geostationary orbit above 35,700 KM. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_19
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=33376


do you have a reference for you claim that it is only at 42 km?

Quote from: Jadyyn on July 09, 2016, 05:56:03 AM

Quote from: Thanos on July 09, 2016, 02:47:22 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 08, 2016, 11:07:30 PM

Quote from: Thanos on July 08, 2016, 05:17:32 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 05, 2016, 07:33:31 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 03, 2016, 05:12:14 AM

the tiny stationary white dots!

Quote from: Blue_Moon on April 20, 2016, 01:08:05 PM

Those tiny white dots are hauling ass!   

They are merely stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites for the globe deception. 

Triangulation from dish angles puts those " stationary blimps that function as geosynchronous satellites  " at the right altitude to be in geosynchronous orbit.

Quote from: Wikipedia

A geostationary equatorial orbit (GEO) is a circular geosynchronous orbit in the plane of the Earth's equator with a radius of approximately 42,164 km (26,199 mi) (measured from the center of the Earth). A satellite in such an orbit is at an altitude of approximately 35,786 km (22,236 mi) above mean sea level.

So you are guessing that there are blimps at an altitude of 35,786 km!  not much air there!

Still any old bit of guesswork to stop the flat earthers from thinking.

I have noticed a few of your other posts and you seem to be dragging out all the old ideas that have been answered dozens of times.

You must have just graduated from the "Flat Earther Indoctrination Course 101"!

Maybe you should wait till you get through the third level before making serious posts.

See if this post means anything to you

Quote from: Jadyyn on November 03, 2015, 04:52:17 PM

OK, here it is - your proof that satellite dishes are point at the same object. I am using towns at the 97° longitude to make this a 2D trigonometric problem:

You'll need to go and look at it.

Obviously you need to do more research into HAPS "High altitude platform station" blimps that reach 50Km. As someone that studied Aerospace Engineering nearly 10 years ago I will provide a little lesson of how things really work.

HAPS offer all the same data transmission capabilites of "satellites," are routinely positioned 20-50Km, AND have outrageous benefits:
- They are orders of magnitude cheaper
- They can be landed for repairs and upgrades
-  rapidly deployable and replaceable without launch platforms 

Now think about those practical benefits for a moment...  You really think that Government agencies and corporations have been blowing $50-500 million a pop on 2,271 fragile, impractical, non-upgradable satellites? haha

Quite the opposite. For about $200K a HAPS blimp you can have 2,271 blimp "satelite" platforms deployed for only $454,200,000. Less then the price of a single staged $500 million shuttle launch! Think about the magnitude of that and the money laundry opportunities of such a scam.

BTW take a good look at these two articles and the conflicting stories.  One claims that Google will use 180 satellites to provide free internet while the other claims they will use HAPS platforms. Very interesting isn't it? 

"Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) supports the idea of the FCC authorizing resources for the study of broadband delivered from high-altitude platform stations (HAPS), which are 20 to 50 kilometers above ground." (hmm satellite dishs aimed at 35km objects would work with this right? lol)

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/google-pushes-fcc-study-high-altitude-platform-stations-broadband-services/2015-05-20
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2646039/Googles-plans-world-domination-Search-giant-launch-180-satellites-bring-internet-access-ENTIRE-planet.html

Many things are theoretically possible. So what? Theoretically, you can build a tower for every Dish TV. So what?

Did you actually read and comprehend what the article says? "Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) supports the idea of the FCC authorizing resources for the study of broadband delivered from high-altitude platform stations (HAPS), which are 20 to 50 kilometers above ground." So they are LOOKING into STUDYING the HAPS. This does not say they actually used them. Considering you have 10 yrs of engineering, you should comprehend what you read a bit better.

We (REers) are interested in what really happens (reality - the real world, not the fantasy FE world). Companies are looking to save money all the time. If these were possible and practical, they would do it - especially if it would reduce their costs by billions of dollars. Even NASA started using reusable shuttles instead of plain rockets to reduce costs. They would not be doing this to "prove" a FE.

Regardless now-a-days, TV Dishes are using SATELLITES - specifically geostationary ones 35,000+ km above sea-level. Bye Bye FE FANTASY.

It shows that LEO satellites are completely unnecessary thanks to high altitude airship technology that has been around for decades before Arthur C. Clark introduced satellites as a Science Fiction concept.

Google knows HAPS work and are filing the paperwork with the FCC to use them. That certainly points to plans to use them.

So lets be clear you actually believe there is a Galaxy 19 satellite at a low earth orbit of 42 Km since 2008?  Do you realize the Karman space line and effects of gravity reach up to 100km?  Either Galaxy 19 magically has enough fuel for 8 years of constant thrust to fly with or it floats on hot air like a blimp. haha

Yes, many THEORETICAL concepts have been around. Right...

As you say, if Google is only now filing for this, what have we been using for Dish TV for many years and are using TODAY?

Concerning the Galaxy 19 satellite, yes. It only needs to make minor corrections because it is in a near vacuum in orbit. It does not need thrust. There is no air 42,000 km up.

So you just studied engineering 10 years ago. Did you understand it? Considering your lack of grasp of simple subjects like this, it doesn't sound like it went anywhere.

Galaxy 19 is in geostationary orbit above 35,700 KM. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_19
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=33376

do you have a reference for you claim that it is only at 42 km?

No, I used software that Dish TV installers use for the angles and derived the 42,000+ km (from the Earth's center) using high school trigonometry.

Quote from: frenat on July 09, 2016, 10:21:16 AM

Galaxy 19 is in geostationary orbit above 35,700 KM. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_19
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=33376

do you have a reference for you claim that it is only at 42 km?

No, I used software that Dish TV installers use for the angles and derived the 42,000+ km (from the Earth's center) using high school trigonometry.

My post was directed at Thanos who claimed only 42 km and not 42,000 km

Quote from: Thanos on July 09, 2016, 09:16:10 AM

Also hundreds of billions shared among millions of people works out to spoils in the hundreds of thousands.  Many people would gladly make harmless PR lies about satellites for an extra hundreds of thousand in their bank account.

Without a single whistleblower?  LOL.  The conspiracy idea is ludicrous....what the fuck is the point of it?   

Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your conspiracy speculation?


And where the fuck are these thousands of blimps?   Why can't anyone see them floating about?

Whistle-blowers lose their jobs, retirement pension funds, and even prison time for revealing classified information.  So why would a whistleblower give up everything they have just to expose a simple lie that LEO satellites are actually HAPS blimps?

Do you have a single shred of evidence of LEO satellites in orbits below the space boundry line at 100km well under the constant pull of gravity for 10-15 years of operation?  Or do you just take the science fiction fantasy at face value? My Lighter-then air HAPS blimps can float indefinitely against gravity without fuel consumption, but your satellites need constant thrust to "fly" in a geosynchronous orbit for years.  Therefore my theory of HAPS blimps is actually physically possible while your satellites fantasy is totally impossible. It really is that simple.

People do see the HAPS blimps floating about as the little dots 35+km away from them in the sky.  Your imaginary satellites were never there flying at 35km within the Stratosphere to begin with.

Galaxy 19 is in geostationary orbit above 35,700 KM. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_19
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=33376


do you have a reference for you claim that it is only at 42 km?

35.7 or 42km it makes no difference.  You miss the actual point. Under 100km orbits are well within the pull of GRAVITY.  A satellite system would instantly "glide" like a rock unless it was a lighter then air airship platform. It is that simple.

Whistle-blowers lose their jobs, retirement pension funds, and even prison time for revealing classified information.

Classified?  What the fuck are you on about?

Do you have a single shred of evidence of LEO satellites in orbits below the space boundry line at 100km well under the constant pull of gravity for 10-15 years of operation?

No. Why would I?  Who has made a claim that such a thing has happened?

  Or do you just take the science fiction fantasy at face value? My Lighter-then air HAPS blimps can float indefinitely against gravity without fuel consumption,

Wow, magic invisible blimps.

People do see the HAPS blimps floating about as the little dots 35+km away from them in the sky. 

Evidence?  I decent telephoto lens will get you a very clear picture of it.

The International Space Station is 400km up, and people take excellent photos of it every day:

Quote from: frenat on July 09, 2016, 10:21:16 AM

Galaxy 19 is in geostationary orbit above 35,700 KM. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_19
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=33376


do you have a reference for you claim that it is only at 42 km?

35.7 or 42km it makes no difference.  You miss the actual point. Under 100km orbits are well within the pull of GRAVITY.  A satellite system would instantly "glide" like a rock unless it was a lighter then air airship platform. It is that simple.

that is 35 THOUSAND 700 km.  Are you unable to read?

I suspect he's trolling.  He's putting some small amount of effort in though, so I'll play along.

I posted this again, because FE's seem to not understand the significance of it.

Those are lights in the sky that appear to remain stationary.

Those lights are there all year long day after day.

Those lights have never been documented to exist until when we are told rockets put a satellite in orbit.

Those lights are where satellite dishes are pointed.

Those lights transmit radio signals.

Here is a list of satellites FE's can track if they want:

http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535

With the proper equipment and math things like velocity and distance can be determined.  Getting the equipment needed should be with-in the means of most people with the desire and will to do so.  People do it for fun and learning. Certainly at least one or two people would do it who are trying to prove a massive lie like the shape of the Earth.

Quote from: Thanos on July 09, 2016, 11:07:20 AM

Quote from: frenat on July 09, 2016, 10:21:16 AM

Galaxy 19 is in geostationary orbit above 35,700 KM. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_19
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=33376


do you have a reference for you claim that it is only at 42 km?

35.7 or 42km it makes no difference.  You miss the actual point. Under 100km orbits are well within the pull of GRAVITY.  A satellite system would instantly "glide" like a rock unless it was a lighter then air airship platform. It is that simple.

that is 35 THOUSAND 700 km.  Are you unable to read?

Nothing gets above the 100Km ceiling not even rockets.

Quote from: frenat on July 09, 2016, 11:32:31 AM

Quote from: Thanos on July 09, 2016, 11:07:20 AM

Quote from: frenat on July 09, 2016, 10:21:16 AM

Galaxy 19 is in geostationary orbit above 35,700 KM. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_19
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=33376


do you have a reference for you claim that it is only at 42 km?

35.7 or 42km it makes no difference.  You miss the actual point. Under 100km orbits are well within the pull of GRAVITY.  A satellite system would instantly "glide" like a rock unless it was a lighter then air airship platform. It is that simple.

that is 35 THOUSAND 700 km.  Are you unable to read?

Nothing gets above the 100Km ceiling not even rockets.

The fact that you can see the ISS and other satellites and calculate their altitudes well above that says otherwise.

Nobody believes you 'frenat'.

Because this:

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Yup; you & Heiwa been doing the same circular disinfo-waltz for three and a half fucking years...

lol busted.

virtual azimuth and elevation numbers are assigned to mask the land based towers

As for the ISS it is a simple hologram projection. Darpa has had the high altitude hologram technology since the 70s.

Nobody believes you 'frenat'.

Because this:

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Yup; you & Heiwa been doing the same circular disinfo-waltz for three and a half fucking years...

lol busted.

Yeah, you busted me.     I was a regular on a forum that heiwa trolled his fraud on.  How is that a crime again?