what's left now?

*sigh*

*sigh*

I've made my points clear, she has nothing in way of an argument, I'm not taking shit from a child any more

no reason to hold back with her from now on, double barrelled

Oh stop, you're scaring me!

you've got nothing to say

Such frightening words! I definitely think you should hold back a bit. Please put the double barrel away! Gosh.

What's left to say? You asked what's left now, you were told some things are left, you don't accept them and become upset. You say you've disproved all the things (without disproving anything), and that's fine, you can believe that and be happy with your angry globularist outlook, but you haven't convinced anyone here of anything... well that's not true, plenty of people here are convinced you're a jerk!

Perhaps we should just leave you to this thread. You can reply to it every hour or so and tearfully complain that no one will debate you.

I've proved thorough explanations and irrefutable evidence, this is why you've been unable to disprove anything I've said

you simply keep saying 'you've proved nothing', well you're wrong

I've given TESTABLE VISUAL EVIDENCE

you've given nothing, because there IS no disproving irrefutable evidence

feel free to try?
no?
didn't think so

you cannot answer, so you don't even try, that's called 'conceding'

You've made reference to tests one could do that make the dome and UA unlikely candidates for a workable FE model. If that was your goal, excellent, you achieved it. But there's no cause for celebration; it's not exactly blazing new territory. It's like disproving denpressure in that I really don't see a lot of people defending it to begin with (although I'll admit to having some entertainment watching scepti cling to it when it comes up) and it's not hard to show counterexamples where the concept fails.

Don't get me wrong, there are some people that support the ideas you are coming out against, to be sure.

But SCG is the one you seem to have a boner about bringing down right now. Are you saying she concedes that dome and UA aren't tenable theories? If so, maybe you could point me towards the post where she took the position that either was one that she subscribes to? Because I totally missed it. And I'm human (quite human, in fact probably the most average and representative example of what a human organism should be, my humanity should not be questioned) so it is not out of the realm of possibilities that I missed something in this thread or a different one.

me asking her direct questions since my arrival here weeks ago

she's not answered a single thing with anything noteworthy, she's not even attempting

I'm just pointing that out to her

all she has is insults, no substance, no answers, just bullshit

so fuck it

me asking her direct questions since my arrival here weeks ago

she's not answered a single thing with anything noteworthy, she's not even attempting

I'm just pointing that out to her

all she has is insults, no substance, no answers, just bullshit

so fuck it

Calm down! Seriously, stop being so aggressive!

aggressive? are you joking?

again, have you also said this to spacecowgirl?

or just me?

double standards.. again

aggressive? are you joking?

again, have you also said this to spacecowgirl?

or just me?

double standards.. again

But she is not aggressive. If you told me sandokhan is aggressive or Legba is aggressive, I would agree. Just because she is wrong about the shape of earth it doesn't mean she is aggressive. She's mostly just mocking you because you run around shouting at everyone, flat earthers and round earthers alike. Stop taking everything so seriously! 

Quote from: Johnorbital on July 21, 2016, 03:18:00 AM

aggressive? are you joking?

again, have you also said this to spacecowgirl?

or just me?

double standards.. again

But she is not aggressive. If you told me sandokhan is aggressive or Legba is aggressive, I would agree. Just because she is wrong about the shape of earth it doesn't mean she is aggressive. She's mostly just mocking you because you run around shouting at everyone, flat earthers and round earthers alike. Stop taking everything so seriously! 

ok.. let's see

Quote from: Johnorbital on June 26, 2016, 07:44:31 AM

Srsly, just read the fucking rules.  You may think you are the first person to arrive here with all the answers, but you are sadly mistaken.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on June 28, 2016, 05:09:23 PM

Quote from: boydster on June 28, 2016, 05:01:34 PM

I just figured we could discuss the flatness while we wait for Johnorbital to demand answers again!

He's gonna cry, tho.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 02, 2016, 11:23:43 AM

Cry to the mods all you want! I hope you spam the report feature again, you big fucking crybaby.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 11, 2016, 04:19:48 PM

Quote from: jroa on July 11, 2016, 04:08:20 PM

Quote from: jroa on July 10, 2016, 07:29:07 PM

What was the question again?

Careful, he will report you to the moderators.

yes, she's been an absolute delight

I've only retaliated after it was abundantly clear she's got no knowledge of anything and she just accepts things she's 'told' that she likes the sound of.. she ignores evidence, when you break it down to her so that she can understand, she strangely replies saying she hasn't seen the post

she's impossible to get a straight answer from, she tried for a long time to get a rise out of me (see my only 2 threads here), but only in the past couple of days have I decided to give a little back

surprise surprise, not one person has asked her to calm down, stop acting like a child, stop trying to antagonise others or stop derailing threads..
..but you all jump on me???

so I'll respectfully not take advice from you guys, I'll say what I like, if the mods deem it offensive, THEY can request I calm down

..because you run around shouting at everyone, flat earthers and round earthers alike.

feel free to quote when I've 'shouted at' anyone

I was very passive until a few days ago, purposely, DESPITE the attempted incitement from quite a few angles

I was firm and opinionated, as the evidence I presented is irrefutable, I gave thorough explanations as to why it's irrefutable too.. but I was NOT offensive and definitely NOT aggressive to ANYONE

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..because you run around shouting at everyone, flat earthers and round earthers alike.

feel free to quote when I've 'shouted at' anyone

Pretty much the entire thread.

SCG was never aggressive, until she started mocking you for your actions. She may have been right, you seem very jumpy. Also, quite a bit of your evidence wasn't "irrefutable", and you merely implied it rather than actually stating it in this thread. Just take it easy, don't be so angry.

again, feel free to quote me

also, as you have now ALSO stated that some of my evidence is NOT irrefutable..

how about a discussion on that?

that's what I've been asking for since day 1

are you going to have a discussion or merely do what many others have done; claim my evidence doesn't work, but refuse to tell me why not with any substantial reply or any willingness to listen to my reply after yours

an almost impossibility on this forum

If you want quotes, you have to wait. I'm on a smartphone right now.

You said you want a discussion on why some of your evidence is not irrefutable. Was our discussion on crepuscular rays not good enough? They don't prove either model.

yes, I agreed originally

they do disprove the flat earth model's location of the sun though

any more?

lunar eclipse?
constellation positions?
landmarks from too far away?

anything else?

yes, I agreed originally

they do disprove the flat earth model's location of the sun though

any more?

lunar eclipse?
constellation positions?
landmarks from too far away?

anything else?

I told you, crepuscular rays don't prove anything about the position of sun.

it proves flat earthers wrong about their explanation of a localised sun using crepuscular rays as their evidence

of course it geometrically looks like it's just above the clouds, but simply walking to the side disproves that theory, as the 'localised' sun follows you.. if you see a shine hitting the water, get on a boat, head towards it..

there's a good reason you'll not reach it

anyone else have anything substantial to say about my points?

anyone else have anything substantial to say about my points?

Yeah, shut up going on all the time.

Quote from: Johnorbital on July 23, 2016, 04:23:04 AM

anyone else have anything substantial to say about my points?

Yeah, shut up going on all the time.

What's with the attitude?

I'm asking for a discussion, in a forum, relative to the board

people are having half a conversation then disappearing when the going gets tough

well I don't disappear mid-conversation, not sure why others do

I love how everyone makes out I've got a bad attitude, by antagonising me over and over and over, then if there's ANY type of retaliation from me then it's me that's in the wrong?

I treat everyone with respect until they don't return it, then and only then do they lose respect from me

there's people like intikam who refuse to answer
spacecowgirl who does nothing but antagonise everyone, claims to have knowledge but refuses to share anything with anyone

and most of the rest just ignore evidence with words like 'no' or 'you're wrong' with no backup

shut up going on?

I'm trying to have ONE substantial discussion, I'm yet to have one with an actual flat earther, they claim up and disappear if they hear something they don't like

why come to a forum if you're not open to discussion?

Regarding the disappearing: I suspect they are leaving because it became apparent that you had a very small window of acceptable FE concepts you were willing to discuss, and further, ones that have been discussed at length in other threads. Also, with the rare PL-style exception, on a public forum where they can choose whether they want to engage with you or not, there's only so much hostility people are going to take before they decide to spend their time elsewhere.

Regarding your statement of being antagonized: You are misremembering how you introduced yourself to the forum.

Regarding treating everyone with respect until they don't return it: You are misremembering how you introduced yourself to the forum.

Regarding Intikam: Go into the FE Believers section and read all about his thoughts on FE

Regarding SCG: Learn to lighten up a little bit. See above, about misremembering how you introduced yourself to the forum. If you're gonna dish it out, you're gonna get it back.

Regarding evidence: Allusions to evidence and actual evidence are two different things. Your lists were allusions to evidence. More work needs to be done to find the actual evidence that your lists referenced. Granted, a lot of supporting information was already in the forum (or just a click away on Google) and could be found by searching, but then, so could FE replies to a lot of the questions you posed, so the search function works both ways. But that's tangential. Allusions to evidence != evidence.

Regarding trying to have ONE substantial discussion: You keep bumping your own thread when it seems like it's reached a much-needed conclusion. You are trying too hard.



Full disclosure, I'm not a life coach or anything, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

or is it going to be the usual, divert, avoid, belittle, divert, avoid, belittle

Quoted for extreme irony.


If you show up uninvited at a party and immediately start criticizing the music and food and the people who like it, you don't also get to complain that no one at the party seems interested in talking to you.

@boydster

you love making out that I was first to antagonise people but you know full well that you're wrong..

you were among the people who took my first thread off topic, going on about Hitler for some strange reason

I ASKED POLITELY for you all to take your chit chat elsewhere

instead of my polite request being accepted, and an apology issued, I was treated as though I shouldn't have expected anything else.. so I showed the 'strictly enforced' forum rules to you all, and was told to 'go cry to the mods'

so to cover your own back, you're making out like I started it.. well I didn't, it was you and your FE crew

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67182.0

there is my first thread, please see my replies on there, I WAS RESPECTFUL AND THANKFUL until you lot came in


I'm misremembering nothing


@Ski

I'm not criticising music after gatecrashing a party, I'm in a FORUM, titled Flat Earth DEBATE

so, unironically, I'm trying to DEBATE the flat earth theory
- VERY ironically though, you've failed to reply to my comment to you previously, then quoted me saying people divert ignore and avoid

poor show

You were baiting people... You wanted people to discuss points that you had already stated were "irrefutable disproven." Your questions were loaded ones. I said as much when I first replied to you. And that IS antagonizing. You asked questions that you already knew the answer to, with the intention of making those who provided the answer you expected sound ridiculous.

And it was a FEer that brought up Hitler. I called him out for how ridiculous that was right off the bat. "You lot?" Really??

no, I asked for my points to be discussed, I gave my opinions as a starting point

that's not baiting, it's how a forum works ffs

Quote from: Johnorbital on June 26, 2016, 05:03:38 PM

can you guys please take your chit chat elsewhere

Shoot. Sorry, I thought I was on a public forum. Must have gotten lost somewhere...

Anyway, I just took the time to read the "Dear Friend" letter, which was basically asking Hitler not to be a jerkface but in a nice way. Honestly, it was new to me so I won't pretend to be an expert on the special relationship they may or may not have had. Thanks for the link, SCG!

yes, 'you lot', you might claim to not be a flat earther, but you definitely have the same traits

boydster, join us on the flat side. You know you want to.

"You lot?" Really??

Over the years I've learnt that the less educated a globularist is, the more likely he is to assume that any point of correction in their misunderstanding comes from the evil "other". The same neurosis and hubris that leads them to post indignantly here refuses self-inspection or to let them see any other view point without demonizing it. It's a reflexive protection from self-doubt: a pattern repeated time and again.

To be sure, I think this is probably true of human nature and not the sole property of globularists, but it is y experience in this context that has revealed the pattern.