Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2016, 05:24:56 AM »
If I drive a car 100 miles away, is it on the other side of the earth because you can't see the car?

You can't see the car because it's well over the horizon.  On a flat Earth, it should be easy to see the car with a pair of binoculars just by climbing a tree.  On our actual round Earth, you could climb to the top of the tallest building in the world and the car would still be over the horizon (but if the car was itself at the top of a similarly high building you would see it with no problem).

Interesting how things can disappear over a curved horizon yet... the horizon is never curved.

How about this photo from 100,000 feet:
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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2016, 05:41:30 AM »
If I drive a car 100 miles away, is it on the other side of the earth because you can't see the car?

You can't see the car because it's well over the horizon.  On a flat Earth, it should be easy to see the car with a pair of binoculars just by climbing a tree.  On our actual round Earth, you could climb to the top of the tallest building in the world and the car would still be over the horizon (but if the car was itself at the top of a similarly high building you would see it with no problem).

Interesting how things can disappear over a curved horizon yet... the horizon is never curved.

How about this photo from 100,000 feet:

How much curvature would you expect to see on this picture with the know size of the earth?

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2016, 05:49:43 AM »
How about any at all?
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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2016, 06:00:08 AM »
Alter my result? NO. I added to my results.

You stated "All experiments of light reflections on curved or spherical surfaces will show the reflection converging to a point." Yea....sorry iWitness, both you and I know how quickly you got busted on that one.

I showed you 2 variances, each one disproving your recent claims. Do not let your pride get in the way of intellect. Neither of my images prove FE.

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2016, 06:07:35 AM »
Here's the thing... one could argue that you are the one altering results.... After all, you've uploaded two different pictures. People can view the Source Video where I took my screenshot from which shows results consistent with your first photo.

Now that you realize your blunder, you re-did your experiment with the INTENT of altering the result. For all we know the lighter is in front of the "horizon". Why do you make a video of the experiment?

P.S. how does it feel to fail so badly at defending RET?

IMO, it would be better if you people remained silent because you're only making it easier to see the truth. You assume people are too stupid to realize that ocean water is obviously flat because the reflection does not converge like it does on actually curved surfaces.

Doesn't look like people are as stupid as you think:

People searching "Flat Earth" on Google
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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2016, 06:17:46 AM »
How about any at all?

On that height with that Field of view, there is hardly any noticeable curvature. Check my pic on 100 000 feet:




my question is what is your excuse of this dishonesty that you dont back up your claims with scale models and calculations ?

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2016, 06:18:27 AM »
I re-did the experiment to show how utterly insane it is to blindly accept a single image as proof. Why are you no longer harping on about how light should converge? Because I proved you wrong. Do you really want me to embarrass you by making a video of it? Ever heard of the saying "Sit down before you fall down".

Maybe go back to making terrible flat earth maps (maybe don't forget the entire bloody continent of Australia this time).....

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2016, 06:38:32 AM »
Riddle me this, this picture is made by a scale model of a flat plane or an earth sized ball ? And what are the clues ?


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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2016, 06:41:01 AM »
It's flat. The Horizon is Flat, the Horizon is at Eye Level, and the reflection of the sun widens and does not converge.
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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2016, 06:42:03 AM »
I re-did the experiment to show how utterly insane it is to blindly accept a single image as proof. Why are you no longer harping on about how light should converge? Because I proved you wrong. Do you really want me to embarrass you by making a video of it? Ever heard of the saying "Sit down before you fall down".

Maybe go back to making terrible flat earth maps (maybe don't forget the entire bloody continent of Australia this time).....

U mad bro?  ;D
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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2016, 06:50:56 AM »
It's flat. The Horizon is Flat, the Horizon is at Eye Level, and the reflection of the sun widens and does not converge.

Funny I made that one on a spherical earth, with a sun 93 million miles way, and exactly what geometrical or physical law are you refering here ?

Why should a reflection converge on a roughly 35 miles visible section of an earth sized sphere ? What amount of curvature are you expecting there ?
« Last Edit: July 21, 2016, 06:52:29 AM by aisantaros »

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2016, 06:57:08 AM »
Mad? I am the absolute opposite!

Actions speak louder than words. You stopped talking about converging light reflections.   

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2016, 07:28:15 AM »
How about any at all?

How about you tell us how much there should be, if you are capable of middle school geometry?

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2016, 10:45:03 AM »
It's flat. The Horizon is Flat, the Horizon is at Eye Level, and the reflection of the sun widens and does not converge.
Based on known figures please calculate the size of the curve of the horizon.

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2016, 12:03:24 PM »
One must consider the fact that we are on an 8,000 mile diameter earth and we are tiny in comparison. In order to see what OP is talking about one has to be very high up.
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2016, 01:29:53 PM »
If I drive a car 100 miles away, is it on the other side of the earth because you can't see the car?

You can't see the car because it's well over the horizon.  On a flat Earth, it should be easy to see the car with a pair of binoculars just by climbing a tree.  On our actual round Earth, you could climb to the top of the tallest building in the world and the car would still be over the horizon (but if the car was itself at the top of a similarly high building you would see it with no problem).

Interesting how things can disappear over a curved horizon yet... the horizon is never curved.

How about this photo from 100,000 feet:


So I sharpened the horizon by increasing the contrast and set a line as a reference......


Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2016, 11:13:36 PM »
I find it funny that my argument on not converging reflection was completetly ignored. Along with a simple question regarding gaps and holes in the reflection.

Anyway, it seems that we are now discussing about curved horizon and photos.

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2016, 01:29:55 AM »
so we're now allowed to use nasa photos as proof?

or is it only flat earthers?

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2016, 03:00:26 AM »
It's flat. Case Closed.
Looks flat on a small scale to someone with a limited perspective.

How does:
      the sun set BEHIND the horizon?
the sun stay the SAME size, when in you model, the distance from the observer to the sun varies by up to a factor of over 3 (sorry for technical term)?
the sun rise in the SOUTH-EAST in the southern hemisphere summer, when, when in you model,  the sun is closer to the NORTH-EAST?
the sun set in the SOUTH-WEST in the southern hemisphere summer, when, when in you model,  the sun is closer to the NORTH-WEST?
the sun stay above the horizon for SIX MONTHS of the year at the SOUTH POLE?
both NORTH and SOUTH POLES having 24-hour daylight on 20/March and 20/Sep each year?
You will ask "Have I observed all of these?" No, but you are presenting other's photos as your evidence!

No, case not closed.

If I drive a car 100 miles away, is it on the other side of the earth because you can't see the car?
And what does that have to with either what is asked, or with the OP?
So, I guess you, like other flat earthers, have no answer to simple things like that, many of which are either observable or quite common knowledge.

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2016, 03:31:24 AM »
How far away is the sun at 3 pm, and how do you account for its position in the sky at 3 pm?

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2016, 03:50:43 AM »
How far away is the sun at 3 pm, and how do you account for its position in the sky at 3 pm?
And on the FE model how large would the sun appear compared to its size at midday?

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2016, 04:06:32 AM »
so we're now allowed to use nasa photos as proof?

or is it only flat earthers?
On this forum it works as follows. You can't use any pictures from NASA as they are all fake/CGI. However, regardless of the source, if the photo "supports" FE, it can be used as a proof/evidence.

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2016, 09:08:28 PM »
Why does everyone just rob the internet and present the treasure
as their own argument?


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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2016, 01:55:06 AM »
Here's the thing... one could argue that you are the one altering results.... After all, you've uploaded two different pictures. People can view the Source Video where I took my screenshot from which shows results consistent with your first photo.

Now that you realize your blunder, you re-did your experiment with the INTENT of altering the result. For all we know the lighter is in front of the "horizon". Why do you make a video of the experiment?

P.S. how does it feel to fail so badly at defending RET?

IMO, it would be better if you people remained silent because you're only making it easier to see the truth. You assume people are too stupid to realize that ocean water is obviously flat because the reflection does not converge like it does on actually curved surfaces.

Doesn't look like people are as stupid as you think:

People searching "Flat Earth" on Google

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2016, 05:16:54 AM »
Here's the thing... one could argue that you are the one altering results.... After all, you've uploaded two different pictures. People can view the Source Video where I took my screenshot from which shows results consistent with your first photo.

Now that you realize your blunder, you re-did your experiment with the INTENT of altering the result. For all we know the lighter is in front of the "horizon". Why do you make a video of the experiment?

P.S. how does it feel to fail so badly at defending RET?

IMO, it would be better if you people remained silent because you're only making it easier to see the truth. You assume people are too stupid to realize that ocean water is obviously flat because the reflection does not converge like it does on actually curved surfaces.

Doesn't look like people are as stupid as you think:

People searching "Flat Earth" on Google

The graphic proves an awakening. They can't stop it. Their power will not be enough to stop establishing the truth.
Or ppl wanting to have a good laugh.

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2016, 12:22:24 PM »
How about any at all?

On that height with that Field of view, there is hardly any noticeable curvature. Check my pic on 100 000 feet:




my question is what is your excuse of this dishonesty that you dont back up your claims with scale models and calculations ?

Don't be silly, that image is fake. Nobody has actually been to space.

Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2016, 01:33:13 PM »
The graphic proves an awakening. They can't stop it. Their power will not be enough to stop establishing the truth.
An midget asian porn star has-been neo-Nazi named Tila Tequila went on a Flat Earth tirade at the beginning of the year.

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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2016, 10:38:07 PM »
That is the giant spike that you see in the graph. When Tila Tequila and Rapper B.O.B. posted on Twitter the earth is flat.
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Re: Sun's Reflection on Water prove Flat Surface
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2016, 11:13:32 PM »
That is the giant spike that you see in the graph. When Tila Tequila and Rapper B.O.B. posted on Twitter the earth is flat.

Both credible, knowledgeable individuals, to be sure. Why would you trust a person who named themselves after distilled agave over your own eyes?