I'm new and have some questions

Ok so I'm pretty new, and I just have a few questions (take note I am not trying to disprove the FE society, just curious).

Ok, so from what Im aware is that gravity isnt aware and we're accelerating upward etc, my question is can we drill through the Earth is it thin thick etc, and is it rotating, as well as is the Earth rotating around the Sun or Sun around the Earth?

Why is there different timezones and night one place meanwhile day somewhere else?

Why is it when theres an eclipse we can see the round Earth against the Moon or whatever it is.

How does circumnavigation work and what happens if we begin in the center of disk will you sail in circles?

Thanks for your time.

You should feel honored space cow girl emerged from the lower fora to reply to such a question.

Ok, so from what Im aware is that gravity isnt aware and we're accelerating upward etc, my question is can we drill through the Earth is it thin thick etc, and is it rotating, as well as is the Earth rotating around the Sun or Sun around the Earth?

!!SNIP!!

Thanks for your time.

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on June 12, 2016, 10:44:28 AM

You should feel honored space cow girl emerged from the lower fora to reply to such a question.

I would post up here more if you guys didn't turn all the threads into poop fires!

You shills are terrible!!   Who sent you??  Whoever sent you is terrible too.  Sheesh. 

You reveal your cards without even realizing it. 

Quote from: FlimFloom on June 12, 2016, 04:25:25 AM

Ok, so from what Im aware is that gravity isnt aware and we're accelerating upward etc, my question is can we drill through the Earth is it thin thick etc, and is it rotating, as well as is the Earth rotating around the Sun or Sun around the Earth?

!!SNIP!!

Thanks for your time.

Sorry but I have spent a lot of time trying to understand what you so eagerly want to know and I can not figure it out. 

Babyhighspeed, GOSH.

You realize that everyone who joins here and starts flinging poo isn't on my side just because they say they're FE? People who call others shills all the time are on their own side! They just want to make you defend yourself, instead of your ideas. You guys play their game (innocently, imo) and this turns the threads to poop fires.

People come here to troll all of us, not just the FE. They are probably PENGUINS 

Anyway, this is the Q&A forum, not the debate forum. If I see someone has asked a question or two, I try to answer. If they make a post with too many questions (I'm sure you've seen some of those) I just skip it. I don't try to argue with anyone or change their mind here... usually, I may have misbehaved in this forum in the past (I've been here a long time!).

Ok so I'm pretty new, and I just have a few questions (take note I am not trying to disprove the FE society, just curious).

Ok, so from what Im aware is that gravity isnt aware and we're accelerating upward etc, my question is can we drill through the Earth is it thin thick etc, and is it rotating, as well as is the Earth rotating around the Sun or Sun around the Earth?

Why is there different timezones and night one place meanwhile day somewhere else?

Why is it when theres an eclipse we can see the round Earth against the Moon or whatever it is.

How does circumnavigation work and what happens if we begin in the center of disk will you sail in circles?

Thanks for your time.

Once you go flat you never go back!

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on June 13, 2016, 06:56:25 AM

Once you go flat you never go back!

I'd love to know when there was an eclipse that couldn't be predicted using FE methods, if you'd like to stand up to your own scrutiny.

The level nature of water is inconsistent with a spherical earth.  Or how about the rotational velocities of certain galaxies? So inconsistent with a spherical earth universe that they had to invent 97% to explain this and expansion. Woooh boy. That's a lot of the universe to know nothing about while still trying to claim you know anything about the universe.

The round earth universe relies on dark matter and dark energy taking up 97% of the universe in spite of being unable to be falsified or detected. Its the equivalent of Newton saying his Universe was held together by God.

It turns out that roughly 68% of the Universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the Universe.Jun 5, 2015
Dark Energy, Dark Matter - NASA Science

If you need to call dark matter / energy "leprechauns" to accept it it's fine by me.

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It turns out that roughly 68% of the Universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the Universe.Jun 5, 2015
Dark Energy, Dark Matter - NASA Science

Just to clear things up.

Quote from: disputeone on June 15, 2016, 02:17:22 PM

If you need to call dark matter / energy "leprechauns" to accept it it's fine by me.

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It turns out that roughly 68% of the Universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the Universe.Jun 5, 2015
Dark Energy, Dark Matter - NASA Science

Just to clear things up.

It really should bother you that dark matter and leprechauns are inter-changable.

I've seen many published values. Its almost like every time a paper come out it says something different to this value even if thats not the point of the paper.

Now you do bring up something interesting. Look how matter of factly thats stated. "It turns out.."

Not "we suspect" or "our hypothesis is" or "the science leads us to believe" or anything like that. Or even the working knowledge says.

It turns out.

This is a government funded organization paid for by the people that is taking their scientific opinion and throwing it around like its fact. People who can't read, can't think for themselves about the matter logically, and otherwise can't bother to look towards these organizations for their view of the Universe and they are lying to each of them.

They should be ashamed.

Quote from: John Davis on June 15, 2016, 04:27:56 PM

Quote from: disputeone on June 15, 2016, 02:17:22 PM

If you need to call dark matter / energy "leprechauns" to accept it it's fine by me.

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It turns out that roughly 68% of the Universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the Universe.Jun 5, 2015
Dark Energy, Dark Matter - NASA Science

Just to clear things up.

It really should bother you that dark matter and leprechauns are inter-changable.

I've seen many published values. Its almost like every time a paper come out it says something different to this value even if thats not the point of the paper.

Now you do bring up something interesting. Look how matter of factly thats stated. "It turns out.."

Not "we suspect" or "our hypothesis is" or "the science leads us to believe" or anything like that. Or even the working knowledge says.

It turns out.

This is a government funded organization paid for by the people that is taking their scientific opinion and throwing it around like its fact. People who can't read, can't think for themselves about the matter logically, and otherwise can't bother to look towards these organizations for their view of the Universe and they are lying to each of them.

They should be ashamed.

http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/~ger/ASTRO-110_sp08/Lecture28_DarkMatter.pdf

It's you who should be ashamed.  You think that throwing around a few stats counts as enough "research"  to declare a topic false.

Still want one measurement of the earth that is inconsistent with a spherical one.

Quote from: ibelle42 on June 15, 2016, 11:22:41 PM

Still want one measurement of the earth that is inconsistent with a spherical one.

Bedford Level Canal.

The most famous of the observations, and the one that was taught in schools until photographs of the Earth from space became available, involved a set of three poles fixed at equal height above water level along this length. As the surface of the water was assumed to be level, the discovery that the middle pole, when viewed carefully through a theodolite, was almost three feet (0.91 m) higher than the poles at each end was finally accepted as a new proof that the surface of the earth was indeed curved.

Quote from: John Davis on June 16, 2016, 10:18:09 AM

Quote from: ibelle42 on June 15, 2016, 11:22:41 PM

Still want one measurement of the earth that is inconsistent with a spherical one.

Bedford Level Canal.

I'm confused.  That experiment confirms the curvature of the earth.

Per the Wikipedias

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The most famous of the observations, and the one that was taught in schools until photographs of the Earth from space became available, involved a set of three poles fixed at equal height above water level along this length. As the surface of the water was assumed to be level, the discovery that the middle pole, when viewed carefully through a theodolite, was almost three feet (0.91 m) higher than the poles at each end was finally accepted as a new proof that the surface of the earth was indeed curved.

Rejoinder/rebuttal?

Quote from: ibelle42 on June 16, 2016, 10:32:23 AM

Quote from: John Davis on June 16, 2016, 10:18:09 AM

Quote from: ibelle42 on June 15, 2016, 11:22:41 PM

Still want one measurement of the earth that is inconsistent with a spherical one.

Bedford Level Canal.

I'm confused.  That experiment confirms the curvature of the earth.

Per the Wikipedias

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The most famous of the observations, and the one that was taught in schools until photographs of the Earth from space became available, involved a set of three poles fixed at equal height above water level along this length. As the surface of the water was assumed to be level, the discovery that the middle pole, when viewed carefully through a theodolite, was almost three feet (0.91 m) higher than the poles at each end was finally accepted as a new proof that the surface of the earth was indeed curved.

Rejoinder/rebuttal?

It was shown not to by Rowbotham, Lady Blount (who published pictures attesting this fact), and Hampden along with Daniel Shenton the current president and a few other youtubers recently IIRC. Hampden was against Wallace, the inventor of evolution. Wallace cheated needing the money and colluded with a local editor who played judge. Hampden successfully sued after a lifelong battle.

From what I understand, Daniel also had a plaque installed there.

Some hollow earthers in the earth 20th century also replicated a similar experiment on a large lake. I'd have to check my references on this one though for the details.

Why is there different timezones and night one place meanwhile day somewhere else?