Will a baby rocket in a vacuum help anyone?

Conservation of momentum

Nothing more to say or discuss in this thread.

Except the experiment being done, that's certainly worth discussing.

Lets see, the first post was digging this thread up from another page, that actually remained the only post for some time. The screen name is a theory only one person here has, directly by name. The styling and grammatical organization along with inflection reminds me of someone dear to my heart......

Let me pull a legba here..

HI SCEPTI 

You know, all you have to do is talk to me via telephone so I know you are not dangerously nutty and I will fly you out here. Give you a day, possible two for experimentation decided before hand, even pay for your lodging...only thing on you is incidentals of food or whatever exploration you want to do in the boring area of the DFW metroplex. Of course I would assist just for the reason of you being in my shop and the specialization of the machinery.  You know this offer already though

Ask Scepti, not me. I can send you telephone details in PM, but please message your time zone and time when you are going to call.

As for answering some of your questions...

I have went through most of these questions through out the thread, but will answer again for the direct questioning..

I had to down size the final design a bit as I have said before do to city and getting certs, still much bigger than my previous one.

Yes the pumps are a modified version of my in house designed pumps, modified to move air instead of fluid.

Yes they are ran by a Honda (to be technical acura integra engine, we rebuilt it to different compression specs, running an electric water pump with a pass through cooling system, ignition/timing powered remotely. Running through a modified transfer case from a Caterpillar unit with wet clutch control, to twin cog belt drives) with all of the equipment here I am out of power. Already past 800 amps in each building and cutting into my surge room. This was cheaper than electrical redesign plus dealing with the city.

No will not be videoing the actual testing, will need to focus on all readings from the specific gauges, sensors, lasers trips ect. Will be focused on structural flex, weld quality (looking for dye that passed through with UV), valve control, engine load and cooling, pump load and cooling, transfer case/clutch temp and so forth.

I post of pictures of everything I say and do, yet I am still called a liar/shill/loser/told to die and so forth. So I stopped posting pictures and trying.

I don't care what Scepti thinks about your evidence... he should have accepted it and kept his word. He might have had criticisms after your test, but calling you a shill or liar without proof is childish.
I do care about photos though, looking forward to seeing some.

Though of course if the rocket test is performed, I will video that. I actually did get a new HD camera just for things like this I have not even removed from the box. I think it is suppose to be 4k and capable of some sort of slow mo. I dont know much about it, but it is suppose to be good. Not my specialty.

Nice, a more 'serious' camera will allow you to shoot at different frame rates while keeping its full native resolution.
The most common frame rates are 24fps, 25fps, 30fps and 60fps. 60fps can be used to slow footage down by half, 60fps -> 30fps looks great. 30fps -> 15fps looks choppy.

If it can shoot at higher fps, great! but then resolution might be reduced to full HD, 720P or lower. 4K is still pretty new in consumer grade cameras though, so I doubt it will keep 4K beyond 60fps.

Sorry building two is not climate controlled at all only building 3, and lobby in building 1. Typical humidity in is about 65 percent in the shop, it can go up to 75 if the water cutter is running. Temps this time of year is around 95-110 in building two. Though right now we are having a rare cold snap and its about 85, but humidity is about 85 percent.

I have a few gauges/monitors throughout to monitor as it requires adjustments of the machines at times depending on the material.


As for your statement in the next post, yes someone could send their own rocket. Though no solid/solid designs, too much contamination.

Understandable

Well I finally splurged, I have been thinking for some time of upgrading chambers to something much more usable. I ended up selling my old chamber, a lathe that is useless to me now, an outdated cnc router, and an older press. So now I have the room, along with some extra money to put towards the new set up.

It will be close to 1900 cubic feet in size, 25 feet long!! (Yes I know I am using stupid American measuring, but it is what it is) Along with 100 horsepower 

So anyways, this shall be completed in about 3 weeks give or take( bar any strange projects ect) I am really aiming towards two weeks, me and two of my best contractor fabricators are building it. I designed it, then checking my own ego, I paid a specialist to check it over and make needed changes (which sadly he made two).

So when it's complete, for its test run, if I fire a small rocket off inside would it help anyone to see the results? Or does anyone really give a damn lol?

Three weeks - Lied
Aiming for two weeks - Lied
Nothing actually done - Truth
What an inveterate liar and fraud you are.

I really wouldn't blame him for not doing the experiment after only copping abuse and ridicule.

Although I hope It's done purely for my curiosity.

Spending a bunch of money on a miniature rocket when everyone has said they will not accept the results seems fruitless.

Edit, I'd rather spend the money on another motorbike.

I really wouldn't blame him for not doing the experiment after only copping abuse and ridicule.

Although I hope It's done purely for my curiosity.

Spending a bunch of money on a miniature rocket when everyone has said they will not accept the results seems fruitless.

Edit, I'd rather spend the money on another motorbike.

Exactly. I think the saddest indictment on the mental health of a conspiracy theorist was one crackpot who routinely said that all mass shootings etc were zionist frauds and hoaxes. And then, in one of the latest shootings, one of his friends was killed. His response was one of questioning. He thought that MAYBE this shooting was real but he wasnt sure. Even though his friend was dead and he could personally attest to it.

THIS is the standard of mental health of many FEers. You literally could not prove it to them if you took them to space and let them see it with their own eyes.

Three weeks - Lied
Aiming for two weeks - Lied
Nothing actually done - Truth
What an inveterate liar and fraud you are.

I bet you are such a pleasant and successful person in real life, that everyone wants to be around ha ha ha..

Did you read my most recent post, or are you just following me around like a good Cocker Spaniel thinking there is some sort of food in my pocket? There isnt, now go back to Legba's yard before I call him....you know his temper. You wouldn't be so hungry if you stopped piddling on his kitchen floor, it really makes his mother mad.

I am done with the vacuum, just some software changes needed after first test. Haven't started on the little rocket yet, been swamped hince my very sporadic posting over last couple weeks. Had more projects than expected and some personal things as well.

I really wouldn't blame him for not doing the experiment after only copping abuse and ridicule.

Although I hope It's done purely for my curiosity.

Spending a bunch of money on a miniature rocket when everyone has said they will not accept the results seems fruitless.

Edit, I'd rather spend the money on another motorbike.

I am sure I will get around to it, I already have the plans drawn up, just need to make the damn thing. The design is simple, and fab time should not be super horrible. Believe me, this place is no longer a motivation for doing so..reading through this thread should answer the question of why I feel such a way.

However, I already drew it in CAD, and I am more motivated to just do it to do it. Also, it will be a neat YouTube video, I can only imagine the hot debate in the comment section.

Though at the same time, it actually started to irritate me being called a shill here and all the other things. Didn't at first like a water drop, but then as time went on it started to annoy me. Especially since everyone saying such a thing was hypocritical, made it even more annoying.

Quote from: totallackey on August 26, 2016, 03:54:07 PM

Three weeks - Lied
Aiming for two weeks - Lied
Nothing actually done - Truth
What an inveterate liar and fraud you are.

I bet you are such a pleasant and successful person in real life, that everyone wants to be around ha ha ha..

Did you read my most recent post, or are you just following me around like a good Cocker Spaniel thinking there is some sort of food in my pocket? There isnt, now go back to Legba's yard before I call him....you know his temper. You wouldn't be so hungry if you stopped piddling on his kitchen floor, it really makes his mother mad.

I am done with the vacuum, just some software changes needed after first test. Haven't started on the little rocket yet, been swamped hince my very sporadic posting over last couple weeks. Had more projects than expected and some personal things as well.

Quote from: disputeone on August 26, 2016, 07:48:37 PM

I really wouldn't blame him for not doing the experiment after only copping abuse and ridicule.

Although I hope It's done purely for my curiosity.

Spending a bunch of money on a miniature rocket when everyone has said they will not accept the results seems fruitless.

Edit, I'd rather spend the money on another motorbike.

I am sure I will get around to it, I already have the plans drawn up, just need to make the damn thing. The design is simple, and fab time should not be super horrible. Believe me, this place is no longer a motivation for doing so..reading through this thread should answer the question of why I feel such a way.

However, I already drew it in CAD, and I am more motivated to just do it to do it. Also, it will be a neat YouTube video, I can only imagine the hot debate in the comment section.

Though at the same time, it actually started to irritate me being called a shill here and all the other things. Didn't at first like a water drop, but then as time went on it started to annoy me. Especially since everyone saying such a thing was hypocritical, made it even more annoying.

I think most people would like to see your efforts. The FEers wont of course and we know their standard response(s). Faked video, shills etc.  Who cares? Well, we do. Knock yourself out!!:)

God I hate to wake this thread up..but I said I would do this, and it is looking like I will have a little down time in the coming weeks. So....

Do I need to build an actual "rocket" the hybrid design I have already designed? Or is just a pressurized gas release "rocket" ok?

I think pressurised gas release would be fine.

The argument was the misconception of free expansion of gas, a pressurised gas release rocket debunks it either way.

Pretty sure even Papa admitted he knew about hypergolic fuel mix.

The sites heaps better since Ski banned him.

I think you should make whatever kind of rocket you want, and I still think this will be a cool experiment.

I haven't read every single post in this thread, but I'm pretty sure the only people giving you shit about it are PL and his alts. Maybe there were some others, but I think most of us will enjoy seeing it.

God I hate to wake this thread up..but I said I would do this, and it is looking like I will have a little down time in the coming weeks. So....

Do I need to build an actual "rocket" the hybrid design I have already designed? Or is just a pressurized gas release "rocket" ok?

Do it to it! I'm also of the mindset that a pressurized gas release would show that the rocket concept works - at least, the part about whether or not expelled gas can provide thrust to an object in a vacuum. But I'd LOVE to see a real rocket engine fired... so... either way I'm on board. Also, a controlled explosion would be cool. But that's just fluff.

God I hate to wake this thread up..but I said I would do this, and it is looking like I will have a little down time in the coming weeks. So....

Do I need to build an actual "rocket" the hybrid design I have already designed? Or is just a pressurized gas release "rocket" ok?

To prove your point all I think you'd need is just a party popper loosely zip tied to a pole inside the vacuum chamber.

Of course a rocket with a little more flare would be cool too.

Yeah I have a more simple idea for the test rocket. Right now just kicking around how I actually want to film it in the chamber. There is no way to see inside.

Aside from just throwing a GoPro in would love to run a live feed to a computer. It isn't rocket science obviously just looking around for the best option.

It has been a while now.

Are you going to show us a photo of the chamber?

Waiting for people to do experiments as proofs, only because they are users on the same website as you, but disproving other experiments that have done exactly the same is a showcase of lacking intellect.

In this video, all of the above has already been done. This is not only a topic for people lacking the knowledge of basic physics, it's a display of people lacking the ability to visualize what actually happens. For people doing arts, this would come down to people not being creative. It's the same mental mechanism that you miss.

Needless to say it's done and done.

That is rude... I never said I didn't trust the fact that rockets work in a vacuum.

Is it not Fair to want just one photo of the thing said to have been build over the course of months?

That is rude... I never said I didn't trust the fact that rockets work in a vacuum.

Is it not Fair to want just one photo of the thing said to have been build over the course of months?

I guess, but what you're looking for is the exact same thing done in the video above.

Edit: I wasn't targetting you specifically, but those who claim rockets doesn't work in a vacuum.

Waiting for people to do experiments as proofs, only because they are users on the same website as you, but disproving other experiments that have done exactly the same is a showcase of lacking intellect.

In this video, all of the above has already been done. This is not only a topic for people lacking the knowledge of basic physics, it's a display of people lacking the ability to visualize what actually happens. For people doing arts, this would come down to people not being creative. It's the same mental mechanism that you miss.

Needless to say it's done and done.

Lurk Moar.

I am interested in how the chamber is going aswell.

Didn't know this thread got dug up again. I thought I had already given an update a while ago. Anyways, it's been done for a while. Only thing new happening is changing the drive engine to an electric motor, as I am having to update the electrical in the building now anyways.

Other than that...nothing new. Due to things that had happened in this thread, and after this thread on this site. I had just stopped caring to do anything of seriousness here. When I first came here, I worked very hard (actually taking some sort seriousness here, as I thought this place was looking for actual truths) to show everything I claim is true either about myself or about what I am talking about (through multiple forms of evidence picture/video etc) because I take finding the truth very serious. So the burden of evidence is very important to me.

Anyways, then i slowly discovered that truth was not the goal here, and evidence was of little to no importance. Then I had some run ins with a few members here that just ended it for me (at least for the purposes I stated above)..So.... I am Sorry, I suppose, I never followed through with the rocket test. I still have the plans for it, I also fabbed up the a frame and the head of the little hybrid a little while ago.

However, just put it aside for a while now when I said fuck it. I mean I can still do it, would prob only take a few days (honestly just 5 hours If stayed constant on it, which is unlikely)...but really what would be the point here? I have no purpose in it, I have seen plenty of scale proto rockets in test chambers...it was mainly for evidence here, which I have already stated my opinion on that.


Edit...yes I still like it here, and that is mainly for some of the people. Not because I think I will learn something or discover a secret. (Though I do learn things here from time to time, typically it does not involve anything science related though)

Didn't know this thread got dug up again. I thought I had already given an update a while ago. Anyways, it's been done for a while. Only thing new happening is changing the drive engine to an electric motor, as I am having to update the electrical in the building now anyways.

Other than that...nothing new. Due to things that had happened in this thread, and after this thread on this site. I had just stopped caring to do anything of seriousness here. When I first came here, I worked very hard (actually taking some sort seriousness here, as I thought this place was looking for actual truths) to show everything I claim is true either about myself or about what I am talking about (through multiple forms of evidence picture/video etc) because I take finding the truth very serious. So the burden of evidence is very important to me.

Anyways, then i slowly discovered that truth was not the goal here, and evidence was of little to no importance. Then I had some run ins with a few members here that just ended it for me (at least for the purposes I stated above)..So.... I am Sorry, I suppose, I never followed through with the rocket test. I still have the plans for it, I also fabbed up the a frame and the head of the little hybrid a little while ago.

However, just put it aside for a while now when I said fuck it. I mean I can still do it, would prob only take a few days (honestly just 5 hours If stayed constant on it, which is unlikely)...but really what would be the point here? I have no purpose in it, I have seen plenty of scale proto rockets in test chambers...it was mainly for evidence here, which I have already stated my opinion on that.


Edit...yes I still like it here, and that is mainly for some of the people. Not because I think I will learn something or discover a secret. (Though I do learn things here from time to time, typically it does not involve anything science related though)

You're a story teller and your stories must be told.
Babyhighspeed: Bring me a dream. Bring me a dream.

Ahhh.. welcome back scepti. I see you are going to do some talking now, and give the alter ego a rest for a bit.

As always punkin , where is the proof?? I provide evidence to anything I say....just because I stopped caring here because of people like yourself, doesn't mean that fact has changed.

So...lets make you a deal. Forget all the monetary non sense, bets etc (unless you are so inclined)...let's make a simple friendly agreement.

You provide proof of two things you have said (its on you first, as I have provided plenty throughout my stay here, even did a proof dance for you one Sunday that took an hour out of my day) one of your dome you have, and another of any one thing you have said about yourself. Completely your pick.

In return I will, take any pictures/videos in any requested form or fashion, I will even be present in them face and all of said vacuum functioning IMMEDIATELY. As stated anything you want...I will even put a bucket of what in there, put my go pro inside, and film the water flash boil.

Then, I will take the time out of my week to build said tiny rocket, document it, and video the test. That is beyond fair....you give an inch, I will give the mile.

This is such a simple deal for honesty don't you think?

Do you agree to such a simple and fun agreement?


All public right here.....no "mystery" or "disappearing" emails...no "disappearing" PM's or any other non sense. Just right here, in the public for all to see. Truth is easy

Just give us a few cellphone pictures :/

Some people like me are genuinely interested in the amazing experiments that can be performed, but I don't want to actually believe it without any pictures of the thing.

You are asking people for proof in the form of pictures, but won't honor such a request made to you by someone else.

Just give us a few cellphone pictures :/

Some people like me are genuinely interested in the amazing experiments that can be performed, but I don't want to actually believe it without any pictures of the thing.

You are asking people for proof in the form of pictures, but won't honor such a request made to you by someone else.

Incorrect....yes I quit that stuff months ago for reasons stated above, however there are probably close to maybe 50 pictures of random things I have posted up to prove this or that(anywhere from my shops, to cars, to street signs lol...I think there might have been one of a glove in the great glove scandal i inadvertently started, gotta love legba) .

Even did an 8 picture montage specifically asked for by scepti to the exact detail he wanted. He HIMSELF said it was acceptable. As I said, in my previous post I don't waste my time with that anymore for reasons given.

However, I am willing to make an exception just for scepti. not like I asked for his first born son. If he is honest, it should literally take 2 minutes of his time.

Sure this happened before you "appeared", but it takes 2 mins to look at my post history to show I am not lying. As well other members can vouch for it whom were around during those times if they even care enough to lol. I wouldn't blame them if they don't.

Also........

Babyhighspeed: Bring me a dream. Bring me a dream.

Such striking resemblance to someone else's speech pattern on this site...especially when they are "telling stories" .

If one person were pretending to be two, I would tell them to be careful showing such "similarities"...

I remember glovegate 2016

I remember glovegate 2016

Would you like a pen?? Who am I to yell about Hillary and her emailgate

Also, glad you are still talking to me...thought you were mad at me for my anti liberal rants on other threads

Quote from: disputeone on November 03, 2016, 03:29:34 PM

I remember glovegate 2016

Would you like a pen?? Who am I to yell about Hillary and her emailgate

Also, glad you are still talking to me...thought you were mad at me for my anti liberal rants on other threads

Not at all, you're one of my favourite posters here, I also think you raised some valid points.

To be fair BHS had posted plenty of proof in other threads of his shop, cars, piano, gloves etc. I have no reason to distrust him.

Post a pic of your bugati scepti.
fuck these guys man don't let them bring you down.

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on November 03, 2016, 03:39:31 PM

Quote from: disputeone on November 03, 2016, 03:29:34 PM

I remember glovegate 2016

Would you like a pen?? Who am I to yell about Hillary and her emailgate

Also, glad you are still talking to me...thought you were mad at me for my anti liberal rants on other threads

Not at all, you're one of my favourite posters here, I also think you raised some valid points.

To be fair BHS had posted plenty of proof in other threads of his shop, cars, piano, gloves etc. I have no reason to distrust him.

Post a pic of your bugati scepti.
fuck these guys man don't let them bring you down.

I don't have a Bugatti.

^ What about your helicopter?

The dome for sure, show that....and one other thing you said you have/or are. Anything of your choice.....

Going to call me a story teller...fine, I am offering to prove you wrong (again)....if you are honest then this takes two seconds to win this little "agreement"

Plus....if I really am a story teller like you say, I won't be able to return my end of the deal. You get to prove to the whole forum finally that I am full of shit like you say I am.

That sounds like the best reward of all.....

Your helicopter?

I was too slow lol.