Admission that they don't use satellite for internet

Okay replace the word handheld with portable.

Portable units were used to improve the accuracy of Loran c.

The new more accurate GPS seems to be using the same method as Loran to improve accuracy.
Using more local transmitters.

Okay replace the word handheld with portable.

Portable units were used to improve the accuracy of Loran c.

The new more accurate GPS seems to be using the same method as Loran to improve accuracy.
Using more local transmitters.

That doesn't make it the same as LORAN.  Not by a long shot. 

Okay replace the word handheld with portable.

Portable units were used to improve the accuracy of Loran c.

The new more accurate GPS seems to be using the same method as Loran to improve accuracy.
Using more local transmitters.

Details of these local transmitters please.

Cellphone towers, radio transmitters...

There are literally hundreds of these things within a 10-mile radius of where I live.

Please provide details of exactly what type of equipment every single one of them contains & exactly what that equipment is doing.

Thank you please!

Cellphone towers, radio transmitters...

There are literally hundreds of these things within a 10-mile radius of where I live.

Please provide details of exactly what type of equipment every single one of them contains & exactly what that equipment is doing.

Thank you please!

Zero evidence for land based GPS transmitters.

There are literally hundreds of these things within a 10-mile radius of where I live.

Proof you have never left the city.

I get great GPS signal in the Western Cape, that big area with no cell coverage.
Also, my cell phones GPS works without its sim card in when I'm in either Botswana, Namibia, Lesotho or Mozambique. I take the sim out to stop the chances of cell roaming, which they charge you 100x plus for if your phone uses any data.

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines, so no reflections of the ionosphere. Also you have the problem that the coordinates you get from gps fit on to a sphere.

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 12:52:32 AM

Cellphone towers, radio transmitters...

There are literally hundreds of these things within a 10-mile radius of where I live.

Please provide details of exactly what type of equipment every single one of them contains & exactly what that equipment is doing.

Thank you please!

Zero evidence for land based GPS transmitters.

LOL!!!

Inquisitive runs away like a dog...

I get great GPS signal in the Western Cape, that big area with no cell coverage.
Also, my cell phones GPS works without its sim card in when I'm in either Botswana, Namibia, Lesotho or Mozambique. I take the sim out to stop the chances of cell roaming, which they charge you 100x plus for if your phone uses any data.

Cool story, bro...

You should write a book about it.

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

Quote from: inquisitive on May 30, 2016, 01:06:24 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 12:52:32 AM

Cellphone towers, radio transmitters...

There are literally hundreds of these things within a 10-mile radius of where I live.

Please provide details of exactly what type of equipment every single one of them contains & exactly what that equipment is doing.

Thank you please!

Zero evidence for land based GPS transmitters.

LOL!!!

Inquisitive runs away like a dog...

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on May 30, 2016, 01:06:24 AM

I get great GPS signal in the Western Cape, that big area with no cell coverage.
Also, my cell phones GPS works without its sim card in when I'm in either Botswana, Namibia, Lesotho or Mozambique. I take the sim out to stop the chances of cell roaming, which they charge you 100x plus for if your phone uses any data.

Cool story, bro...

You should write a book about it.

Quote from: Empirical on May 30, 2016, 01:41:00 AM

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

So you can provide no evidence for you beliefs.  End of topic.

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 02:34:01 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on May 30, 2016, 01:06:24 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 12:52:32 AM

Cellphone towers, radio transmitters...

There are literally hundreds of these things within a 10-mile radius of where I live.

Please provide details of exactly what type of equipment every single one of them contains & exactly what that equipment is doing.

Thank you please!

Zero evidence for land based GPS transmitters.

LOL!!!

Inquisitive runs away like a dog...

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on May 30, 2016, 01:06:24 AM

I get great GPS signal in the Western Cape, that big area with no cell coverage.
Also, my cell phones GPS works without its sim card in when I'm in either Botswana, Namibia, Lesotho or Mozambique. I take the sim out to stop the chances of cell roaming, which they charge you 100x plus for if your phone uses any data.

Cool story, bro...

You should write a book about it.

Quote from: Empirical on May 30, 2016, 01:41:00 AM

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

So you can provide no evidence for you beliefs.  End of topic.

No; you can provide no evidence for exactly what type of equipment every cell-tower & transmitter near me contains or exactly how it functions & are running away from this fact.

You are a bot, aren't you?

Or an autist; or sokarul; same thing.

Toodle-pip, Little Loser!

Loran could use skywaves so location systems don't necessarily need straight lines.

The only evidence for satellites is a photo with some dots on it, and a belief that received dishes are pointed at something in space and not something closer.

The only evidence for satellites is a photo with some dots on it, and a belief that received dishes are pointed at something in space and not something closer.

That and the thousands of satellites that have been launched by a huge industry spanning multiple countries/ universities and private organisations involving millions of people.
47 so far this year

Loran could use skywaves so location systems don't necessarily need straight lines.

The only evidence for satellites is a photo with some dots on it, and a belief that received dishes are pointed at something in space and not something closer.

Not a belief, fact, do some investigation.

Quote from: Empirical on May 30, 2016, 01:41:00 AM

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

LOLWUT!?!?

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 02:34:01 AM

Quote from: Empirical on May 30, 2016, 01:41:00 AM

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

LOLWUT!?!?

Are you mental?

It just requires signals.

Wtf has 'straight lines' got to do with it?

Or are they using lasers for GPS now?

Knowing you madmen, you'll probably say 'yes', so...

Meh.

Quote from: markjo on May 30, 2016, 09:35:22 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 02:34:01 AM

Quote from: Empirical on May 30, 2016, 01:41:00 AM

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

LOLWUT!?!?

Are you mental?

It just requires signals.

Wtf has 'straight lines' got to do with it?

Or are they using lasers for GPS now?

Knowing you madmen, you'll probably say 'yes', so...

Meh.

'Line of sight'.  As you know.

Oh, so you just mean aligning your receiver with the signal?

Same as every radio, ever?

Why didn't you say so?

Oh, of course - because you're a time-wasting shill.

As you know.

Oh, so you just mean aligning your receiver with the signal?

Same as every radio, ever?

Why didn't you say so?

Oh, of course - because you're a time-wasting shill.

As you know.

Yes, aligning satellite dishes with satellites, which proves their location.

Oh, so you just mean aligning your receiver with the signal?

Same as every radio, ever?

Why didn't you say so?

Oh, of course - because you're a time-wasting shill.

As you know.

The transmitter high in the air.

Although arguing with shills is repetitive and draining, but it can actually help.

I would never have discovered that most GPS frequencies have to go through a kilometre of reflective cloud unless they had tried to use frequency as an argument that GPS signals are not skywaves on the ionosphere

But when someone posts a picture of dishes pointing upwards after all that's been said,it's just not worth saying the same repetitive things.

Quote from: markjo on May 30, 2016, 09:35:22 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 02:34:01 AM

Quote from: Empirical on May 30, 2016, 01:41:00 AM

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

LOLWUT!?!?

Are you mental?

It just requires signals.

Wtf has 'straight lines' got to do with it?

The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.

This simple fact is the basis for any sort of location based calculation.

Although arguing with shills is repetitive and draining, but it can actually help.

I would never have discovered that most GPS frequencies have to go through a kilometre of reflective cloud unless they had tried to use frequency as an argument that GPS signals are not skywaves on the ionosphere

But when someone posts a picture of dishes pointing upwards after all that's been said,it's just not worth saying the same repetitive things.

Satellite TV dishes are not simply pointing upwards. The have to be correctly aligned in altitude and azimuth to within a degree or so. Having been aligned they will not need re-adjusting unless knocked out of place.

Also, as has been carefully explained, the dishes using a given satellite all align at the same location 35,786 km above the equator.

So, there is no way there are pointing at balloons or any other ideas you might dream up.
Do you ever read the explanations given, or since you know everything, just ignore what everyone else says?

One of those dishes is angled totally differently to the others, but there is probably an excuse for that

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 11:06:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on May 30, 2016, 09:35:22 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on May 30, 2016, 02:34:01 AM

Quote from: Empirical on May 30, 2016, 01:41:00 AM

Doesn't gps trilateration require the signals to travel in straight lines

No.

LOLWUT!?!?

Are you mental?

It just requires signals.

Wtf has 'straight lines' got to do with it?

The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.

This simple fact is the basis for any sort of location based calculation.

So the signal will be strongest at the shortest distance away from it, immaterial of its footprint.

And we're back to aligning our receiver with the signal...

Like every radio, ever.

So the signal will be strongest at the shortest distance away from it, immaterial of its footprint.

And we're back to aligning our receiver with the signal...

Like every radio, ever.

Do you align your cell phone receiver with the cell tower?

My cellphone doesn't have a dish antenna.

Perhaps yours does?

As well as firing laser beams at shpayze-satylytez?

I have no idea what kinda mad shit you lot will come up with next, so let me know...

Or don't.

It's not like it'll make any difference.

My cellphone doesn't have a dish antenna.

Neither do GPS receivers.