Admission that they don't use satellite for internet

https://www.quora.com/How-are-major-undersea-cables-laid-in-the-ocean

This article is quite interesting.  I was just reading through trying to figure out exactly how many miles of cable were laid and I came across this quote. 
"We don't use satellites because they can't carry terabytes of data for less than a billion dollars per communication line."
Satellites are fake ISS is a lie k thx bai

"We don't use satellites because they can't carry terabytes of data for less than a billion dollars per communication line."

I think the data capacity is the main problem of satellite internet. If you are used to unlimited internet access, switching to satellite could be frustating.

https://www.quora.com/How-are-major-undersea-cables-laid-in-the-ocean

This article is quite interesting.  I was just reading through trying to figure out exactly how many miles of cable were laid and I came across this quote. 
"We don't use satellites because they can't carry terabytes of data for less than a billion dollars per communication line."
Satellites are fake ISS is a lie k thx bai

They are not used for exactly the reason given "because they can't carry terabytes of data" at a reasonable cost.

BUT satellites ARE used for direct broadcast TV, GPS, Satellite Phone to remote areas and Internet (not very broadband) to remote areas.

Yes, I have used satellite phones (while travelling in outback Australia, hundreds of kilometres away from the nearest phone tower) and satellite internet access (a few times on board ship).

Communications satellites (as used for direct broadcast TV, phone and internet) are normally in Geosynchronous orbits (though the Iridium phone satellites are in lower orbits) and in high latitudes the signals can be blocked by mountains. I have noted that in the Norwegian Fjords.


Makes about as much sense as saying that FA-18s cannot carry large numbers of passengers hence FA-18s are fake!

Try again!

https://www.quora.com/How-are-major-undersea-cables-laid-in-the-ocean

This article is quite interesting.  I was just reading through trying to figure out exactly how many miles of cable were laid and I came across this quote. 
"We don't use satellites because they can't carry terabytes of data for less than a billion dollars per communication line."
Satellites are fake ISS is a lie k thx bai

A company provides undersea fiber data links because fiber has advantages over satellite data links, therefore satellites don't exist? That's an interesting conclusion.

I think the data capacity is the main problem of satellite internet.

That and latency. The quarter second two-way time from ground to geostationary satellite and back can kill throughput if your data is a lot of small packets. It takes at least half a second to get an acknowledgement for each packet sent, because both the data packet and the "ack" packet must make the two-way trip.

If you are used to unlimited internet access, switching to satellite could be frustating.

It can be. My brother uses HughesNet satellite broadband because he lives in a rural area not served by wired or fiber broadband. It doesn't work well with VPNs, probably because of the latency, speed is expensive compared to terrestrial distribution, and it has a monthly quota less than a lot of people are used to. But it does work, and until someone strings a fiber down his road, it's his only choice.

Despite its limitations, satellite data links have the advantage of covering huge areas without terrestrial infrastructure.

Back in the 1930's they sent messages from the UK to the USA by bouncing them off the ionosphere, this could be what satellite dishes and phones are receiving information from.

Also, why doesn't anyone send messages using this technique anymore?
It's cheap and effective.

And uhh how did NASA talk to astronauts on the moon when radio waves can't get out?

Back in the 1930's they sent messages from the UK to the USA by bouncing them off the ionosphere, this could be what satellite dishes and phones are receiving information from.

Also, why doesn't anyone send messages using this technique anymore?
It's cheap and effective.

And uhh how did NASA talk to astronauts on the moon when radio waves can't get out?

"Also, why doesn't anyone send messages using this technique anymore?"


Because of the loss of detail and its dependability on weather. It's also not very practical because it only works for a very specific angle of incidence on the ionosphere, which results in massive "dead zones", where you can't communicate using this technique, either because the transmitter/receptor is too far away or too close.

"And uhh how did NASA talk to astronauts on the moon when radio waves can't get out?"


They can get out. Only frequencies below 50MHz, and only when they are directed at a specific angle to the ionosphere are reflected back on earth.

Because of the loss of detail and its dependability on weather

Yeah...

Hey, here's an idea; why don't they just spray cheap, radio-wave reflective particles out of airplanes to help alleviate these issues?

Then call em chemtrails, set up a massive but also cheap internet disinfo op to cover up what they're actually for, & Bob's your uncle: problem solved!

Would you like to help me count the chemtrails next time they're active, Rainman?

I think you'd enjoy it, because there will be lots & lots of them for you to count!

Wow that would be an epic campaign if that were true, that is why I come here for mind blowing ideas like that, and Qantas really being QSatan ^_^

Satellites are also weather dependent (or used to be?) So that's not a good argument

Is this why chemtrails are always sprayed in an X shape over the entire city so that they can be used for local GPS?

There's a thread about it on flat earth general & yes it is true.

The tech has been slowly developed since the 1940s at least & the 1st Gulf War was likely the big roll-out.

It's simple stuff, but meh...

Believe what you like.

I'm not doubting you as that is the only explanation of chemtrails that makes any sense.

These radio phones use the ionosphere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotelephone#Marine_use

If their usage was merely made more efficient with computerized receiving stations they would be so similar to a satellite phone that noone could tell the difference

I'm not doubting you as that is the only explanation of chemtrails that makes any sense.

These radio phones use the ionosphere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotelephone#Marine_use

If their usage was merely made more efficient with computerized receiving stations they would be so similar to a satellite phone that noone could tell the difference

You might not be able to tell the difference, but others can. It would be fairly simple to verify if the phone was trasmitting at 3-30 Mhz like the ones you linked, or above 1 Ghz which satellite phones work at. The antenna would be drastically different, the wavelength of a 30Mhz signal is 32 feet, even a 1/4 wavelength antenna would be 8 feet long.

I'm not doubting you as that is the only explanation of chemtrails that makes any sense.

These radio phones use the ionosphere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotelephone#Marine_use

If their usage was merely made more efficient with computerized receiving stations they would be so similar to a satellite phone that noone could tell the difference

You will find cheaper satellite communication has taken over from this.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on May 17, 2016, 12:56:19 PM

Because of the loss of detail and its dependability on weather

Yeah...

Hey, here's an idea; why don't they just spray cheap, radio-wave reflective particles out of airplanes to help alleviate these issues?

Then call em chemtrails, set up a massive but also cheap internet disinfo op to cover up what they're actually for, & Bob's your uncle: problem solved!

Would you like to help me count the chemtrails next time they're active, Rainman?

I think you'd enjoy it, because there will be lots & lots of them for you to count!

Lol

Clouds exist.

Lol

"Admission?"  It's not like this was a secret.  I thought everyone knew this.  Guess not, but then again it's not a surprising reaction when it's a flat earther learning something about the way the world actually works.

Wow that would be an epic campaign if that were true, that is why I come here for mind blowing ideas like that, and Qantas really being QSatan ^_^

Satellites are also weather dependent (or used to be?) So that's not a good argument

Is this why chemtrails are always sprayed in an X shape over the entire city so that they can be used for local GPS?

Of course there are many problems that Papa Legba ignores.  GPS doesn't stop working when there are no trails in the sky.  A majority of the trails come from commercial aircraft.  There is no proof of the claimed aluminum and barium content of the trails.  Trying to get precision timing from a signal reflected off a constantly moving and shifting layer wouldn't work. etc.

I'm not doubting you as that is the only explanation of chemtrails that makes any sense.

These radio phones use the ionosphere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotelephone#Marine_use

If their usage was merely made more efficient with computerized receiving stations they would be so similar to a satellite phone that noone could tell the difference

It seems to be tropospheric scatter more than ionospheric bouncing, but whatever the details it's the same shit they've always been doing for over a century.

It may have something to do with solar activity, too, but again, meh... Same shit.

As for the composition of the trails, any fine reflective particles would do the trick.

My guess is some kinda cheap industrial by-product like ash from power stations, incinerators, etc.

It's all pretty basic stuff, anyway.

This frenat guy is a total shill btw, just ignore him.

Quote from: Ex-Globe on May 17, 2016, 01:47:35 PM

I'm not doubting you as that is the only explanation of chemtrails that makes any sense.

These radio phones use the ionosphere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotelephone#Marine_use

If their usage was merely made more efficient with computerized receiving stations they would be so similar to a satellite phone that noone could tell the difference

It seems to be tropospheric scatter more than ionospheric bouncing, but whatever the details it's the same shit they've always been doing for over a century.

It may have something to do with solar activity, too, but again, meh... Same shit.

As for the composition of the trails, any fine reflective particles would do the trick.

My guess is some kinda cheap industrial by-product like ash from power stations, incinerators, etc.

It's all pretty basic stuff, anyway.

This frenat guy is a total shill btw, just ignore him.

Lol

So now chemtrails are fly ash?

Lol

Make up your mind.

Lol

Quote from: Ex-Globe on May 17, 2016, 01:47:35 PM

I'm not doubting you as that is the only explanation of chemtrails that makes any sense.

These radio phones use the ionosphere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotelephone#Marine_use

If their usage was merely made more efficient with computerized receiving stations they would be so similar to a satellite phone that noone could tell the difference

It seems to be tropospheric scatter more than ionospheric bouncing, but whatever the details it's the same shit they've always been doing for over a century.

It may have something to do with solar activity, too, but again, meh... Same shit.

As for the composition of the trails, any fine reflective particles would do the trick.

My guess is some kinda cheap industrial by-product like ash from power stations, incinerators, etc.

It's all pretty basic stuff, anyway.

This frenat guy is a total shill btw, just ignore him.

Yes, ignore me.  Because you certainly can't refute what I said.  But you don't care about facts, do you?

See?

Idiots.

If you could refute it, you would.  You could start by posting evidence for your claimed content for "chemtrails".  How do you KNOW they contain the aluminum and barium you claim?

The official explanation for chemtrails is that they reflect the sunlight away from the earth,so they are reflective.

And I thought it was for mind control.

And this is why sokarul is on my shit list

Wow that would be an epic campaign if that were true, that is why I come here for mind blowing ideas like that, and Qantas really being QSatan ^_^

Satellites are also weather dependent (or used to be?) So that's not a good argument

Is this why chemtrails are always sprayed in an X shape over the entire city so that they can be used for local GPS?

Einstein is reported to have claimed
Maybe he a few Flat Earthers!

And this is why sokarul is on my shit list

Because searching for "chemtrail mind control" brings up zero results...or 458,000.

And this is why sokarul is on my shit list

He's on everyone's shit list.

The official explanation for chemtrails is that they reflect the sunlight away from the earth,so they are reflective.

Yeah, typical inversion of truth; tell people it's to reflect radiation back OUT rather than back IN.

Plus it ties in with the whole global warming scam: big $$$ in that bullshit.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on May 17, 2016, 12:56:19 PM

Because of the loss of detail and its dependability on weather

Yeah...

Hey, here's an idea; why don't they just spray cheap, radio-wave reflective particles out of airplanes to help alleviate these issues?

Then call em chemtrails, set up a massive but also cheap internet disinfo op to cover up what they're actually for, & Bob's your uncle: problem solved!

Would you like to help me count the chemtrails next time they're active, Rainman?

I think you'd enjoy it, because there will be lots & lots of them for you to count!

Because that makes no sense, and I am surprised you can't see why.

Wow that would be an epic campaign if that were true, that is why I come here for mind blowing ideas like that, and Qantas really being QSatan ^_^

Satellites are also weather dependent (or used to be?) So that's not a good argument

Is this why chemtrails are always sprayed in an X shape over the entire city so that they can be used for local GPS?

I'm sorry, do you people actually believe this crap? GPS working thanks to chemtrails sprayed over the entirety of earth's atmosphere? WTF?

Quote from: Ex-Globe on May 17, 2016, 01:33:02 PM

Wow that would be an epic campaign if that were true, that is why I come here for mind blowing ideas like that, and Qantas really being QSatan ^_^

Satellites are also weather dependent (or used to be?) So that's not a good argument

Is this why chemtrails are always sprayed in an X shape over the entire city so that they can be used for local GPS?

I'm sorry, do you people actually believe this crap? GPS working thanks to chemtrails sprayed over the entirety of earth's atmosphere? WTF?

Of course. A FE is pure fantasy. Anything works on it - without evidence. So you can have Moonshramp, GPS off of chemtrails, Dish TV off of invisible balloons/planes, etc. Whatever floats your boat.

One of the definitions of "fantasy" is "imagination unrestricted by reality".

Yes, chaff is a fantasy & does not exist & there is no precedent for dumping radio-reflective materials into the atmosphere from planes & you are not the thought-police at work.

We know the routine by now.