Satan on a Skateboard.

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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2016, 08:20:08 PM »
I thought the point of this thread was to attack me Papa, why go after markjo?
Duh!!  Because you're one of my many sock puppets, remember?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2016, 09:31:37 PM »
Of course, how could i forget.

Well then Papa, please explain the forces involved in a coke bottle water and air pressure rocket.

Coke bottle  (one object) water (one object) how does the coke bottle lift off the ground?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2016, 09:32:52 PM »
If he starts answering questions he'll eventually realise he's wrong, I hope.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2016, 11:50:21 PM »
As everything you say is a lie, I'm gonna just keep leaving your gibberish without comment, for intelligent people to be appalled by:

rockets don't really need pressure in order to work.

F=ma is F=ma; how does 'context' change the fact that you ended up saying that non-zero F can be created when m=0?
Then you shouldn't have any trouble telling us how much atmospheric mass a rocket needs to push against in order to accelerate.

Rockets can just as easily use solid objects as the reaction mass and work just fine.

What part of F=pa says anything about mass?

What part of F=pa says anything about mass?

^This last one's a beauty!
Yes, because it shows that your claim that rocket engines work by pressure pushing against atmospheric mass is utter nonsense.

you are the one who is claiming that a rocket must push against the mass of the atmosphere but refuse to explain how much atmospheric mass your rocket engine must push against.

Coke bottle  (one object) water (one object) how does the coke bottle lift off the ground?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2016, 12:11:55 AM »
As everything you say is a lie, I'm gonna just keep leaving your gibberish without comment, for intelligent people to be appalled by:

rockets don't really need pressure in order to work.


This is totally correct. You don't need pressure at all. Just ejecting any object with mass out the back will work. It just happens to be easiest to do it with pressurised exhaust gases.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2016, 12:40:11 AM »
As everything you say is a lie, I'm gonna just keep leaving your gibberish without comment, for intelligent people to be appalled by:

rockets don't really need pressure in order to work.

F=ma is F=ma; how does 'context' change the fact that you ended up saying that non-zero F can be created when m=0?
Then you shouldn't have any trouble telling us how much atmospheric mass a rocket needs to push against in order to accelerate.

Rockets can just as easily use solid objects as the reaction mass and work just fine.

What part of F=pa says anything about mass?

What part of F=pa says anything about mass?

^This last one's a beauty!
Yes, because it shows that your claim that rocket engines work by pressure pushing against atmospheric mass is utter nonsense.

you are the one who is claiming that a rocket must push against the mass of the atmosphere but refuse to explain how much atmospheric mass your rocket engine must push against.

Coke bottle  (one object) water (one object) how does the coke bottle lift off the ground?

rockets don't really need pressure in order to work.

This is totally correct. You don't need pressure at all. Just ejecting any object with mass out the back will work. It just happens to be easiest to do it with pressurised exhaust gases.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2016, 01:08:58 AM »
Is this what he always does instead of debating his ideas?

Showing less maturity than my 5 year old nephew at the moment legba.
Please answer my question, how does the coke bottle lift of the ground.
Should be easy for a man of your "intelligence"
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2016, 01:12:09 AM »
If I am legitimately wrong, then debate me and prove me wrong.

If you can prove rockets don't work without atmospheric pressure i will apologize and admit i was wrong.
(instead of just copying and pasting to derail the thread and the fact i was wrong.)
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2016, 01:14:17 AM »
As everything you say is a lie, I'm gonna just keep leaving your gibberish without comment, for intelligent people to be appalled by:

Coke bottle  (one object) water (one object) how does the coke bottle lift off the ground?

Are you trying to say the coke bottle won't lift off the ground? Cause it just shows how much thought and research you do before posting nonsense.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2016, 01:56:11 AM »
So you get paid by the post rather than by the word?

Noted.

The OP, about Satan on a skateboard:

...in space, throwing medicine balls.

Proves something about the ability of a Finite amount of gas to create pressure in an Infinite vacuum, according to our noob Oz-shill pal 'disputeone'...

Off you go, 'Ozshillone'; tell us all about it!

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Please oblige.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2016, 02:38:37 AM »
So you get paid by the post rather than by the word?

Noted.

The OP, about Satan on a skateboard:

...in space, throwing medicine balls.

Proves something about the ability of a Finite amount of gas to create pressure in an Infinite vacuum, according to our noob Oz-shill pal 'disputeone'...

Off you go, 'Ozshillone'; tell us all about it!

I need more nonsense & capering to add to my collection...

Please oblige.

Alright I'll bite.

First you need to clarify your question.

The first part about Satan on a skateboard throwing medicine balls, that's an action reaction force pair, remember the post you were copying and pasting?

What do you think would happen if Satan was in space and threw a medicine ball half of his mass?
You haven't even answered that yet.

Secondly the part about a finite amount of gas creating pressure in an infinite vacuum. What pressure are you referring to? That is worded to be more of a riddle than a question.

I claimed that action reaction force pairs are the way rockets work in space, the rocket pushes fuel out very vast, propels the rocket up slower proportional to the weight of the rocket, the amount of fuel being pushed out, the speed in which the fuel is being pushed out, the air resistance, gravity etc.

The rocket will work the same way in space except without gravity and atmospheric pressures,  it will get an exact equal and opposite reaction from the fuel being ejected without having to deal with variables rockets have to overcome in Earths atmosphere.

Edit, do the coke bottle water and air pressure rocket Papa I think itll clear a lot up for you.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2016, 02:49:17 AM »
The first part about Satan on a skateboard throwing medicine balls, that's an action reaction force pair

So a rocket has arms that throw a solid ball of gas into space?

lol.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2016, 03:05:26 AM »
The first part about Satan on a skateboard throwing medicine balls, that's an action reaction force pair

So a rocket has arms that throw a solid ball of gas into space?

lol.

You have no idea how to debate do you?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #73 on: May 18, 2016, 03:10:08 AM »
You have no idea how a rocket works.

Look:

What do you think would happen if Satan was in space and threw a medicine ball half of his mass?

Does a rocket have arms that throw a solid ball of gas into a vacuum?

Simple question, simple answer.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #74 on: May 18, 2016, 03:17:38 AM »
No Papa, a rocket does not have arms that throw gas into space.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #75 on: May 18, 2016, 03:33:15 AM »
What do you think would happen if Satan was in space and threw a medicine ball half of his mass?

a rocket does not have arms that throw gas into space.

See the problem there?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #76 on: May 18, 2016, 03:52:20 AM »
I agree it's not a direct comparison.

Alright what would happen if a rocket shot fuel out of its exaust in space?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #77 on: May 18, 2016, 03:56:16 AM »
What do you think would happen if Satan was in space and threw a medicine ball half of his mass?

a rocket does not have arms that throw gas into space.

I agree it's not a direct comparison.

You appear to be debating yourself...

Should I just leave you to it?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #78 on: May 18, 2016, 03:58:11 AM »
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #79 on: May 18, 2016, 04:06:58 AM »
Welcome to my joke-collection.

As everything you say is a lie, I'm gonna just keep leaving your gibberish without comment, for intelligent people to be appalled by:

rockets don't really need pressure in order to work.

F=ma is F=ma; how does 'context' change the fact that you ended up saying that non-zero F can be created when m=0?
Then you shouldn't have any trouble telling us how much atmospheric mass a rocket needs to push against in order to accelerate.

Rockets can just as easily use solid objects as the reaction mass and work just fine.

What part of F=pa says anything about mass?

What part of F=pa says anything about mass?

^This last one's a beauty!
Yes, because it shows that your claim that rocket engines work by pressure pushing against atmospheric mass is utter nonsense.

you are the one who is claiming that a rocket must push against the mass of the atmosphere but refuse to explain how much atmospheric mass your rocket engine must push against.

Coke bottle  (one object) water (one object) how does the coke bottle lift off the ground?

rockets don't really need pressure in order to work.

This is totally correct. You don't need pressure at all. Just ejecting any object with mass out the back will work. It just happens to be easiest to do it with pressurised exhaust gases.

What do you think would happen if Satan was in space and threw a medicine ball half of his mass?

a rocket does not have arms that throw gas into space.

I agree it's not a direct comparison.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #80 on: May 18, 2016, 04:28:10 AM »
If he starts answering questions he'll eventually realise he's wrong, I hope.
That's why he won't answer any questions.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #81 on: May 18, 2016, 05:00:09 AM »
LOL!!!

This thread is neither a debate nor a Q&A session.

It is you Clowns capering for my amusement.

Now provide more lulzy quotes for my joke-book, please...

Perhaps expanding further on your contention that rockets do not require pressure in order to function will do the trick?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #82 on: May 18, 2016, 06:00:09 AM »
You want funny quotes?

"Atoms don't exist."
"Rockets can't work in a vacuum."
"Rocket engines push off the atmosphere."
"A gas molecule hitting another gas molecule can impart a force on a solid object, even if the object is 50 feet away."
"Exhaust stacking."
"Denpressure."
"Gravity is air pressure."
"Atmospheric pressure is self aware and knows the density of objects and makes rational decisions on how much to accelerate said object." 
"Inertia doesn't exist."
"Contrails don't exist because clouds don't exist."
"Chemtrails are fly ash."

Those should hold you over for awhile.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #83 on: May 18, 2016, 06:16:31 AM »
Now provide more lulzy quotes for my joke-book, please...

How about this one:
Like the other FE related boards, Flat Earth General is for serious discussion of the Flat Earth Society, The Conspiracy and Flat Earth Theory. Now, things aren't as strict in here as in Flat Earth Debate, but zero-content, off-topic or abusive posts are still against the rules.


Perhaps expanding further on your contention that rockets do not require pressure in order to function will do the trick?

Okay, how's this:
An electrically powered spacecraft propulsion system uses electrical energy to change the velocity of a spacecraft. Most of these kinds of spacecraft propulsion systems work by electrically expelling propellant (reaction mass) at high speed, but electrodynamic tethers work by interacting with a planet's magnetic field.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #84 on: May 18, 2016, 06:37:03 AM »
Well I couldn't read the first bit of your shitpost cos it contained schoolmarmish queefing about the rules & regs, which I have no intention of ever knowing.

As for your last bit, here is the definition of a rocket: "A cylindrical projectile that can be propelled to a great height or distance by the combustion of its contents, used typically as a firework or signal".

So I have no idea why you posted your 'electrical propulsion' nonsense.

Is Lying against the rules & regs?

Or gross stupidity?

If so, you & socky-boy would have been banned a million times over.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #85 on: May 18, 2016, 07:02:08 AM »
Well I couldn't read the first bit of your shitpost cos it contained schoolmarmish queefing about the rules & regs, which I have no intention of ever knowing.
Yes, that's increasingly more obvious.

As for your last bit, here is the definition of a rocket: "A cylindrical projectile that can be propelled to a great height or distance by the combustion of its contents, used typically as a firework or signal".

That's one definition of a rocket.  Here's another one:
A rocket (from Italian rocchetto "bobbin"[1]) is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft or other vehicle that obtains thrust from a rocket engine. Rocket engine exhaust is formed entirely from propellant carried within the rocket before use.[2] Rocket engines work by action and reaction and push rockets forward simply by expelling their exhaust in the opposite direction at high speed, and can therefore work in the vacuum of space.


So I have no idea why you posted your 'electrical propulsion' nonsense.
Because not all forms of spacecraft propulsion are chemical rocket engines.

Is Lying against the rules & regs?
Not as far as you know.

Or gross stupidity?
If it was, then you would have been perma-banned long ago.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #86 on: May 18, 2016, 09:17:48 AM »
Sorry but all I get from that is 'NO U!!!'.

Try speaking as if you're not a pubescent schoolgirl defending her fave boy-band on facebook, eh?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #87 on: May 18, 2016, 09:38:32 AM »
Sorry but all I get from that is 'NO U!!!'.
Then maybe you should have a grown up read it to you and explain any big words that you don't understand.
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #88 on: May 18, 2016, 09:54:15 AM »
Sorry but all I get from that is 'NO U!!!'.

Try speaking as if you're not a pubescent schoolgirl defending her fave boy-band on facebook, eh?
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Re: Satan on a Skateboard.
« Reply #89 on: May 18, 2016, 10:24:13 AM »
Sorry but all I get from that is 'NO U!!!'.

Try speaking as if you're not a pubescent schoolgirl defending her fave boy-band on facebook, eh?
Wake me up when you have something constructive to add to the discussion.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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