Dinosaurs: Made In China

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on September 01, 2017, 11:30:10 AM

Quote from: John Davis on September 01, 2017, 09:27:31 AM

I was recently interviewed due to my skepticism towards those silly dinodragons.

https://www.samanthascarlette.com/single-post/2017/08/23/BLACKOUT-Alien-Abduction-Dino-Hoax

Oh, and what would you have said if they had asked you this question?

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on May 15, 2016, 03:59:00 PM

OK, let's be clear here... say a member of the public finds a big skeleton that is the shape of a dinosaur buried in rocks in the ground, you're saying it's not a dinosaur? Since that couldn't have been faked in China then what exactly IS that thing the person found?

Because more than a year later, you still refuse to answer it.

A member of the public eh? Like what happened with the piltdown raptor?

"But Grandfather," said the children, "how will we recognise a troll if it comes to get us?"
Grandfather chuckled and leaned close to the children. "Let me tell you a secret," he said. "The way to spot a troll is to ask it a question. Trolls can't stand questions, because they can't tell the truth, and they are completely incapable of giving an answer. So just ask, and then you need never be afraid of a troll again."
"Thank you, Grandfather, we love you," said the children. And that night they slept soundly in their beds, knowing that the troll couldn't get them, and dreamed sweet dreams of becoming famous palaeontologists.

Quote from: GRIZZ420 on September 01, 2017, 10:11:59 AM

Bottom line dinosaurs were real and no hoax! I know from first hand experience. I have been on fossil hunting trips with boyscouts when I was a kid then a few times later on with a friend that does it for a living. I have found a few dino bones myself along with a few fish and plants. I know for a fact they were not placed there and were in the rock or ground a very,very long time.

That would not be first hand experience. And no one denied that fossils exist. I'm sure you found some.

On the other hand, even if I did believe in dinosaurs, I would be hesitant to believe you found a dinosaur bone on a boyscout trip. And if you did, that it was indeed a 'dinosaur bone' 'in the rock or ground a very very long time.' and that they were 'not placed.' It sounds like you are not interested in facts, but rather would like to believe what you believe without evidence that it was there for a very very long time and not placed there and indeed a dinosaur bone.

So finding a fossilized dino bone surrounded in a undisturbed layer of ground from around a hundred million years ago is not first hand experience that disproves the notion they were made in China? It was a couple foot bones from some small dinosaur we found in Montana and I forgot what type it belonged to since it was a long time ago.

So you imply that someone got some of these made in China fake dino bones and put them inside an undisturbed layer of rock at the same time putting it in a random spot on earth they knew we would find it in?

I'd wager the majority of scientists and academics don't understand science. Why ask a bird about ornithology?

You would most certainly lose that wager.

The Museum is now bidding on my dinosaur bones.

The Field Museum is fun to visit real or not.

Facts Matter at The Field Museum
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The Museum is now bidding on my dinosaur bones.

I guess you pay rock bottom prices for your Chinese ones.

Quote from: John Davis on September 01, 2017, 08:02:22 PM

The Museum is now bidding on my dinosaur bones.

I guess you pay rock bottom prices for your Chinese ones.

    

Good one. 

This whole discussion is a good example of how flat earth thinking works.
Facts can ignored and replaced with fiction.
The fact that in both the USA and Australia there are numerous national parks and sites of interest  where fossils can be viewed still in the ground. Yet rock solid evidence like this  is like water of a ducks back. In the mind of a flat earther facts don't matter.

https://www.nps.gov/fobu/index.htm

This whole discussion is a good example of how flat earth thinking works.
Facts can ignored and replaced with fiction.
The fact that in both the USA and Australia there are numerous national parks and sites of interest  where fossils can be viewed still in the ground. Yet rock solid evidence like this  is like water of a ducks back. In the mind of a flat earther facts don't matter.

https://www.nps.gov/fobu/index.htm

I wonder how the Chinese managed to imbed this big bird fossil in a rock at Riversleigh in Queensland. I know it's not a dinosaur, they were found around around Muttaburra.

Quote from: John Davis on September 01, 2017, 12:48:09 PM

Quote from: GRIZZ420 on September 01, 2017, 10:11:59 AM

Bottom line dinosaurs were real and no hoax! I know from first hand experience. I have been on fossil hunting trips with boyscouts when I was a kid then a few times later on with a friend that does it for a living. I have found a few dino bones myself along with a few fish and plants. I know for a fact they were not placed there and were in the rock or ground a very,very long time.

That would not be first hand experience. And no one denied that fossils exist. I'm sure you found some.

On the other hand, even if I did believe in dinosaurs, I would be hesitant to believe you found a dinosaur bone on a boyscout trip. And if you did, that it was indeed a 'dinosaur bone' 'in the rock or ground a very very long time.' and that they were 'not placed.' It sounds like you are not interested in facts, but rather would like to believe what you believe without evidence that it was there for a very very long time and not placed there and indeed a dinosaur bone.

So finding a fossilized dino bone surrounded in a undisturbed layer of ground from around a hundred million years ago is not first hand experience that disproves the notion they were made in China? It was a couple foot bones from some small dinosaur we found in Montana and I forgot what type it belonged to since it was a long time ago.

So you imply that someone got some of these made in China fake dino bones and put them inside an undisturbed layer of rock at the same time putting it in a random spot on earth they knew we would find it in?

Science proves that the dirt is undisturbed and that it is a hundred million years old.
Science has no reason to lie.
Science can not be mistaken (obviously).
Therefore, whatever science determines is TRUTH and anyone who questions it is standing in the way of progress and should be jailed without trial.

Science has proven that this entire website is standing in the way of progress.

Science is in NO WAY a religion. 

Quote from: Lonegranger on September 03, 2017, 01:03:30 AM

This whole discussion is a good example of how flat earth thinking works.
Facts can ignored and replaced with fiction.
The fact that in both the USA and Australia there are numerous national parks and sites of interest  where fossils can be viewed still in the ground. Yet rock solid evidence like this  is like water of a ducks back. In the mind of a flat earther facts don't matter.

https://www.nps.gov/fobu/index.htm

I wonder how the Chinese managed to imbed this big bird fossil in a rock at Riversleigh in Queensland.

I know it's not a dinosaur, they were found around around Muttaburra.

I have no doubt birds existed.

Guess I should have gone to see the "Made in China" writing.

http://kdvr.com/2017/09/01/triceratops-found-in-thornton-to-go-on-display-at-museum-this-weekend/

Quote from: rabinoz on September 03, 2017, 01:46:37 AM

Quote from: Lonegranger on September 03, 2017, 01:03:30 AM

This whole discussion is a good example of how flat earth thinking works.
Facts can be ignored and replaced with fiction.
The fact that in both the USA and Australia there are numerous national parks and sites of interest where fossils can be viewed still in the ground. Yet rock solid evidence like this is like water off a ducks back. In the mind of a flat earther facts don't matter.

https://www.nps.gov/fobu/index.htm

I wonder how the Chinese managed to embed this big bird fossil in a rock at Riversleigh in Queensland.

I know it's not a dinosaur, they were found around around Muttaburra.

I have no doubt birds existed.

Well a few much bigger things seem to be there too:
All from: Dinosaurs in Queensland: Outback dig of amateurs

And you wonder why we have such strict border control now! 

More dinosaur propaganda:


Open the door, get on the floor. Everybody kill the dinosaur.

Just in case there was any confusion as to what this site really is.

Me neither JJ. Me Neither.

http://10thousandcouples.com/2018/01/jj-redick-not-entirely-convinced-dinosaurs-existed-on-earth/

"I just want it to be just done with". And I'm thinking to myself, 'alright, humans - like Homo sapiens - we've been here since, like, 10,000 B.C. We've been roaming the Earth, we've had multiple empires all over the world... and in all that time, we didn't find any fossils until 150 years ago?' .

Me neither JJ. Me Neither.

http://10thousandcouples.com/2018/01/jj-redick-not-entirely-convinced-dinosaurs-existed-on-earth/

Sadly all the evidence disagrees with you and nothing supports your position.

I have seen no evidence that disproves my position and none has been provided in this thread. I have leveed several successful attacks against the idea of these roaming lumbering and sometimes flying dragons, with no valid refutation by Camp Round.

I have seen no evidence that disproves my position and none has been provided in this thread. I have leveed several successful attacks against the idea of these roaming lumbering and sometimes flying dragons, with no valid refutation by Camp Round.

That’s possibly because you’ve never opened your eyes, plus they are not dragons!
The evidence for the existance of dinosaurs is overwhelming. Like most flat earth thought you choose to believe based on belief and not on the facts.

"We've been roaming the Earth, we've had multiple empires all over the world... and in all that time, we didn't find any fossils until 150 years ago?".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_paleontology

"In ancient times Xenophanes (570–480 BC), Herodotus (484–425 BC), Eratosthenes (276–194 BC), and Strabo (64 BC-24 AD), wrote about fossils of marine organisms indicating that land was once under water. During the Middle Ages, fossils were discussed by the Persian naturalist, Ibn Sina (known as Avicenna in Europe), in The Book of Healing (1027), which proposed a theory of petrifying fluids that Albert of Saxony would elaborate on in the 14th century. The Chinese naturalist Shen Kuo (1031–1095) would propose a theory of climate change based on evidence from petrified bamboo."

So what you are saying is that none of these found dinosaurs.

Petroleum wasn't discovered until 1859...

I suppose oil was also planted by the Chinese?

Greek fire?

I have seen no evidence that disproves my position and none has been provided in this thread. I have leveed several successful attacks against the idea of these roaming lumbering and sometimes flying dragons, with no valid refutation by Camp Round.

I don't think anything in post was correct.  You cited a study about one species of whales and an article by a guy who thinks Saturn hovered above the North Pole.  You then ignored all the evidence of fossils being found embedded in rock.

Greek fire?

Good point. They called it "Greek fire" before "petroleum", and they called them "dragons" before "dinosaurs".

I thought this was a joke topic. Have not yet read all the pages, but it has left me quite breathless.

"Update: I have called this company claiming to be a wealthy museum owner in the United States. After a very confusing interaction, it is clear I will have to learn Chinese before I proceed investigating this company"

"Back to the matter at hand, its ridiculous to think dinosaurs existed. Giants on the other hand, we actually have hard evidence for their existence. If there were so many dinosaurs, where is all the oil? It was a big deal for the nations to agree on a set price for oil, despite its supposed natural abundance. Oh that's right. They say its all in Antarctica. Only Big Science is allowed to go there."

This is no joke!

"I just want it to be just done with". And I'm thinking to myself, 'alright, humans - like Homo sapiens - we've been here since, like, 10,000 B.C. We've been roaming the Earth, we've had multiple empires all over the world... and in all that time, we didn't find any fossils until 150 years ago?' .

Your a bit off on your facts John, once again!. Homo in its various forms including sapiens have been around for a lot longer than 10,000 years.

Granted, yes, the reason I find this all so absurd is because of what I have been taught. That is true. Still, I find it easier to believe something that has involved a tremendous amount of work, study and experimention rather than a select few who cannot come up with any concrete proof for what they are saying.

I thought this was a joke topic. Have not yet read all the pages, but it has left me quite breathless.

"Update: I have called this company claiming to be a wealthy museum owner in the United States. After a very confusing interaction, it is clear I will have to learn Chinese before I proceed investigating this company"

"Back to the matter at hand, its ridiculous to think dinosaurs existed. Giants on the other hand, we actually have hard evidence for their existence. If there were so many dinosaurs, where is all the oil? It was a big deal for the nations to agree on a set price for oil, despite its supposed natural abundance. Oh that's right. They say its all in Antarctica. Only Big Science is allowed to go there."

I know, right

Dinosaurs and all the fosil sciences are Chinese fakes but 30 foot giants are very real.