Dinosaurs: Made In China

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #240 on: August 24, 2016, 10:04:52 AM »
Its not a matter of imagination or belief.

They are impossible. Under their weight they would have crushed themselves and their necessary intake of calories would have decimated the environment.

Your only argument is that you like dinosaurs. Because like everybody else you were sold on them since childhood through silly cartoons, or movies or toys.

You told me you didnt rely on conspiracy theories??

But now you back the dinosaur fossil conspiracy >:)    cmon man!!
It is no conspiracy that there is a popularity to error.


So, for FE to exist, we now have to assume the following people anf organizations are either actively covering up FE, or are extremely stupid:

- All major religions
- All space agencies
- All meteorological organizations
- All surveyors
- All pilots
- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
- All universities
- All paleontologists
- All astronomers
- Everyone who has ever taken an transcontinental flight
- All penguins

But FET stands tall. They have a dude from the Nineteenth century that did not know how to use surveying equipment.

Impressive.
I doubt many flatists would agree with me about Penguins. Perhaps a few about dinosaurs. A good handful with the moon. However to try and claim all of these folks would have to be in on it is silly.

Make no mistake though, paleontologists are in a crooked profession built around the false discovery of chicken bones into dino-dragons. Most likely don't realize they are in such a profession and just go about their studies; they assume the fake dinosaur parts are in fact real ones, by folly or ignorance, and invent all sorts of deductions from this - painting their own little ancient fantasy filled with giant lizards.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2016, 10:16:03 AM by John Davis »
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #241 on: August 24, 2016, 10:22:09 AM »
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However to try and claim all of these folks would have to be in on it is silly.

And yet, all these organizations and people (with the possible exception of the Penguins) agree the Earth is round.

It is indeed silly to then claim it is flat. Glad you agree.

Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #242 on: August 24, 2016, 12:47:55 PM »
They could simply be mistaken. This would not be 'stupid' of them at all. After all, they can't know it all can they?
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #243 on: August 24, 2016, 01:08:08 PM »
They could simply be mistaken. This would not be 'stupid' of them at all. After all, they can't know it all can they?

But you know? Something that apparently none of the listed people can figure out, you can? What makes you so special?
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #244 on: August 24, 2016, 08:04:19 PM »
I am building off of the content within The Flat Earth Conspiracy by Eric Dubay, There Are No Forests On The Flat Earth by a youtuber, Damned Facts, by Charles Fort.

You are telling me you really do believe there were giant dragons romping around that are too large to support their own structure and unable to feed themselves on the available bio"sphere" ?! The first one found was a fraud to display to dinner guests in some rich old eccentrics lobby. They threw together some bones and added on a fake Iguana head. Somebody got jealous and created their own frankenstein out of a Crocodile. This all got into the hands of a very convincing speaker, and the American mind was captured in the fun myth of Dinosaurs - brought on by an emerging 'field of science' - hrm.

Its very interesting to watch the creation of the new monk class during the emergence of science as a profession.

Who said that they can't support their own weight? I do know that dinosaurs can't get to their original size if they are living today because they have a low oxygen intake. So the logical answer is they had more air back then than we do now. That's how the bugs got so huge. And I was skimming the thread up until now so I may have misread but didn't you claimed that trees grew miles high? If so then isn't that a bit hypocritical to believe in trees miles high with no evidence to show for yet disbelieve in dinosaurs that literally anyone can find if they search in the right places?
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #245 on: August 25, 2016, 02:42:01 PM »
So, for FE to exist, we now have to assume the following people anf organizations are either actively covering up FE, or are extremely stupid:

- All major religions
- All space agencies
- All meteorological organizations
- All surveyors
- All pilots
- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
- All universities
- All paleontologists
- All astronomers
- Everyone who has ever taken an transcontinental flight
- All penguins

But FET stands tall. They have a dude from the Nineteenth century that did not know how to use surveying equipment.

Impressive.
I doubt many flatists would agree with me about Penguins. Perhaps a few about dinosaurs. A good handful with the moon. However to try and claim all of these folks would have to be in on it is silly.

Make no mistake though, paleontologists are in a crooked profession built around the false discovery of chicken bones into dino-dragons. Most likely don't realize they are in such a profession and just go about their studies; they assume the fake dinosaur parts are in fact real ones, by folly or ignorance, and invent all sorts of deductions from this - painting their own little ancient fantasy filled with giant lizards.
The list of those "in the know" goes far deeper than that.

As I have written numerous times there are (probably many) millions who simply get on with their daily work using the fact that the earth is a globe, that satellites are really there, that microwave link spacings and that distances are as on the globe and NOT on any flat earth model we have seen.

Satellite TV installers, remote YV broadcasters point their dishes at a known point high above in a given direction - it works.

We take road, rail and air journeys in the Southern Hemishpere and the distances are as on the Globe, not on any Flat Earth map we have seen.

Aircraft and ship navigators plan routes using the Globe directions and distances. They get there and with the planned fuel loads!

If the distances we see on any flat earth map were correct these ships would run out of fuel long before they reached their destination.

So, while you try to claim that an accurate map is a diversion, it is absolutely vital.
And worrying over dinosaurs is also a diversion from explanations about what I see about me with my own eyes that does not fit any flat earth model.

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #246 on: August 26, 2016, 08:43:15 AM »
I am building off of the content within The Flat Earth Conspiracy by Eric Dubay, There Are No Forests On The Flat Earth by a youtuber, Damned Facts, by Charles Fort.

You are telling me you really do believe there were giant dragons romping around that are too large to support their own structure and unable to feed themselves on the available bio"sphere" ?! The first one found was a fraud to display to dinner guests in some rich old eccentrics lobby. They threw together some bones and added on a fake Iguana head. Somebody got jealous and created their own frankenstein out of a Crocodile. This all got into the hands of a very convincing speaker, and the American mind was captured in the fun myth of Dinosaurs - brought on by an emerging 'field of science' - hrm.

Its very interesting to watch the creation of the new monk class during the emergence of science as a profession.

Who said that they can't support their own weight? I do know that dinosaurs can't get to their original size if they are living today because they have a low oxygen intake. So the logical answer is they had more air back then than we do now. That's how the bugs got so huge. And I was skimming the thread up until now so I may have misread but didn't you claimed that trees grew miles high? If so then isn't that a bit hypocritical to believe in trees miles high with no evidence to show for yet disbelieve in dinosaurs that literally anyone can find if they search in the right places?
Large trees don't suffer from the same issues large mammals or reptiles would.

Sure, anybody can find dinosaurs if they search the right places - except the combined population of the world from before 1676 to the dawn of civilization. That's a lot of people! Consider how much marble was used up until this point! Consider the relatively huge number of dinosaur 'artifacts' found near river banks and other highly travelled areas.

So, for FE to exist, we now have to assume the following people anf organizations are either actively covering up FE, or are extremely stupid:

- All major religions
- All space agencies
- All meteorological organizations
- All surveyors
- All pilots
- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
- All universities
- All paleontologists
- All astronomers
- Everyone who has ever taken an transcontinental flight
- All penguins

But FET stands tall. They have a dude from the Nineteenth century that did not know how to use surveying equipment.

Impressive.
I doubt many flatists would agree with me about Penguins. Perhaps a few about dinosaurs. A good handful with the moon. However to try and claim all of these folks would have to be in on it is silly.

Make no mistake though, paleontologists are in a crooked profession built around the false discovery of chicken bones into dino-dragons. Most likely don't realize they are in such a profession and just go about their studies; they assume the fake dinosaur parts are in fact real ones, by folly or ignorance, and invent all sorts of deductions from this - painting their own little ancient fantasy filled with giant lizards.
The list of those "in the know" goes far deeper than that.

As I have written numerous times there are (probably many) millions who simply get on with their daily work using the fact that the earth is a globe, that satellites are really there, that microwave link spacings and that distances are as on the globe and NOT on any flat earth model we have seen.

Satellite TV installers, remote YV broadcasters point their dishes at a known point high above in a given direction - it works.

We take road, rail and air journeys in the Southern Hemishpere and the distances are as on the Globe, not on any Flat Earth map we have seen.

Aircraft and ship navigators plan routes using the Globe directions and distances. They get there and with the planned fuel loads!

If the distances we see on any flat earth map were correct these ships would run out of fuel long before they reached their destination.

So, while you try to claim that an accurate map is a diversion, it is absolutely vital.
And worrying over dinosaurs is also a diversion from explanations about what I see about me with my own eyes that does not fit any flat earth model.



You have no observations that cannot be explained in my flat earth model. More than this, the kind of lazy thinking that instantly makes every single person in the world part of the conspiracy to attempt to disprove its existence is a joke. You are simply setting up a strawman to argue against, as no serious flatist holds all those people would be involved.

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #247 on: August 26, 2016, 09:20:01 AM »
You are simply setting up a strawman to argue against, as no serious flatist holds all those people would be involved.

But his is the foundation of your entire argument! That any evidence that counters your worldview is fake!

You by default reject ALL evidence that does not suit you! All of it!

That means all the people listed above, who actively do their daily job on the basis of the world being round, MUST be part of your Grand Scam!

Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #248 on: August 26, 2016, 09:46:57 AM »
They could simply be mistaken. This would not be 'stupid' of them at all. After all, they can't know it all can they?
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #249 on: August 26, 2016, 09:59:21 AM »
Assuming there was a conspiracy, this is not the case. However, there need not have to be a conspiracy for the earth to be flat. Well, perhaps a conspiracy of ignorance.

So, for FE to exist, we now have to assume the following people anf organizations are either actively covering up FE, or are extremely stupid:

- All major religions
All major religions point to a flat earth. Most other religions as well.
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- All space agencies
No, not the entire space agency would be involved. I'd hardly tell the janitors. And let's not forget the compartmentalized nature in which these bodies act. Most just know what they are working on and have no idea about the larger project, except for their requirements. As a military branch we can expect them to be tight-lipped patriots that would never sell their country out.

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- All meteorological organizations
Why do you think this?
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- All surveyors
Why do you think this?
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- All pilots
Funny you should mention that, because we have a moderator that is an engineer and pilot and has testified that he has never seen any such curvature and has never seen any evidence through flight that the earth was a globe. When I talk with folks about the issue, usually those saying they have reveal within a sentence or two they were either on a commercial jet that's too low to see curvature - even if the earth was round - or that they were in a military vehicle and their field of sight was restricted.
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- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
Have you ever looked into the algorithms used for such things? Seldom is the curvature even bothered with, for similar reasons that sailors use 'plane sailing.'
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- All universities
- All paleontologists
The crookery and deceit done by these awful professions is only a side-show in the discussion of the shape of the earth. They are too busy lying and stealing their way to the top of their little fashions; they have lost sight of the search for truth.
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- All astronomers
No, they would have to be wrong. It wouldn't be the first or last time the astronomers were wrong.
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- Everyone who has ever taken an transcontinental flight
I've taken many. I've seen no evidence of a globe in all of my travels.
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- All penguins
I'm curious. Why do penguins have to be part of the conspiracy again?
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But FET stands tall. They have a dude from the Nineteenth century that did not know how to use surveying equipment.

Impressive.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #250 on: August 26, 2016, 10:00:12 AM »
There still exists the option that they are just wrong and there is no conspiracy. We are dealing with professions that are based on lying, cheating, and breaking the rules to gain the funding and grants they need for their pet theories. Again and again studies show that peer review is a joke, scientists and academics routinely engage in academic misconduct, and that the reason why most studies are wrong is because of interests such as funding. Its not that far of a stretch to say that we were wrong yet once again.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 10:06:15 AM by John Davis »
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« Reply #251 on: August 26, 2016, 11:59:50 AM »
I am building off of the content within The Flat Earth Conspiracy by Eric Dubay, There Are No Forests On The Flat Earth by a youtuber, Damned Facts, by Charles Fort.

You are telling me you really do believe there were giant dragons romping around that are too large to support their own structure and unable to feed themselves on the available bio"sphere" ?! The first one found was a fraud to display to dinner guests in some rich old eccentrics lobby. They threw together some bones and added on a fake Iguana head. Somebody got jealous and created their own frankenstein out of a Crocodile. This all got into the hands of a very convincing speaker, and the American mind was captured in the fun myth of Dinosaurs - brought on by an emerging 'field of science' - hrm.

Its very interesting to watch the creation of the new monk class during the emergence of science as a profession.

Who said that they can't support their own weight? I do know that dinosaurs can't get to their original size if they are living today because they have a low oxygen intake. So the logical answer is they had more air back then than we do now. That's how the bugs got so huge. And I was skimming the thread up until now so I may have misread but didn't you claimed that trees grew miles high? If so then isn't that a bit hypocritical to believe in trees miles high with no evidence to show for yet disbelieve in dinosaurs that literally anyone can find if they search in the right places?
Large trees don't suffer from the same issues large mammals or reptiles would.

Oh yes they would.

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Sure, anybody can find dinosaurs if they search the right places - except the combined population of the world from before 1676 to the dawn of civilization. That's a lot of people! Consider how much marble was used up until this point! Consider the relatively huge number of dinosaur 'artifacts' found near river banks and other highly travelled areas.

To my knowledge you don't find dinosaur fossils in marble. The material isn't suited to preserving bones. Other than that there wasn't much digging back then. As to fossils found in river banks how often does that happen?

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So, for FE to exist, we now have to assume the following people anf organizations are either actively covering up FE, or are extremely stupid:

- All major religions
- All space agencies
- All meteorological organizations
- All surveyors
- All pilots
- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
- All universities
- All paleontologists
- All astronomers
- Everyone who has ever taken an transcontinental flight
- All penguins

But FET stands tall. They have a dude from the Nineteenth century that did not know how to use surveying equipment.

Impressive.
I doubt many flatists would agree with me about Penguins. Perhaps a few about dinosaurs. A good handful with the moon. However to try and claim all of these folks would have to be in on it is silly.

Make no mistake though, paleontologists are in a crooked profession built around the false discovery of chicken bones into dino-dragons. Most likely don't realize they are in such a profession and just go about their studies; they assume the fake dinosaur parts are in fact real ones, by folly or ignorance, and invent all sorts of deductions from this - painting their own little ancient fantasy filled with giant lizards.
The list of those "in the know" goes far deeper than that.

As I have written numerous times there are (probably many) millions who simply get on with their daily work using the fact that the earth is a globe, that satellites are really there, that microwave link spacings and that distances are as on the globe and NOT on any flat earth model we have seen.

Satellite TV installers, remote YV broadcasters point their dishes at a known point high above in a given direction - it works.

We take road, rail and air journeys in the Southern Hemishpere and the distances are as on the Globe, not on any Flat Earth map we have seen.

Aircraft and ship navigators plan routes using the Globe directions and distances. They get there and with the planned fuel loads!

If the distances we see on any flat earth map were correct these ships would run out of fuel long before they reached their destination.

So, while you try to claim that an accurate map is a diversion, it is absolutely vital.
And worrying over dinosaurs is also a diversion from explanations about what I see about me with my own eyes that does not fit any flat earth model.



You have no observations that cannot be explained in my flat earth model. More than this, the kind of lazy thinking that instantly makes every single person in the world part of the conspiracy to attempt to disprove its existence is a joke. You are simply setting up a strawman to argue against, as no serious flatist holds all those people would be involved.
Not directed to me but I'm too lazy to delete it.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #252 on: August 29, 2016, 03:27:15 PM »
I am sorry, but I prefer dinosaur boat theory. 

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #253 on: August 31, 2016, 11:23:35 AM »
No reason to be sorry because your views don't match mine exactly. This is after all just another hypothesis. I was quite taken by dinosaurs myself when James presented his research on them.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #254 on: September 27, 2016, 09:38:44 PM »
Little People

In Varieties of Religious of Religious Experience, James talks in depth about the number of cultures that experience sightings and experiences similar to those describe by what are commonly known as fae. Every mythology has a little people in it, a record born from the things we 'didn't really see...'

So, giants? yes? Ridiculous? Surely we are the only size of humanoid that has ever lived on our planet.

Charles Fort, ever flat interested, mentions several instances of tiny archeological finds - small tools that are clearly not suited for the average size man. Let's step into the ring of mushrooms and see how deep this myth really goes. We shall ignore minor things, like the Atacama skeleton, which may have their own explanations as wild as they seem.

It is fact that a little people have lived among us.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #255 on: September 29, 2016, 08:38:38 PM »
Assuming there was a conspiracy, this is not the case. However, there need not have to be a conspiracy for the earth to be flat. Well, perhaps a conspiracy of ignorance.

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Funny you should mention that, because we have a moderator that is an engineer and pilot and has testified that he has never seen any such curvature and has never seen any evidence through flight that the earth was a globe. When I talk with folks about the issue, usually those saying they have reveal within a sentence or two they were either on a commercial jet that's too low to see curvature - even if the earth was round - or that they were in a military vehicle and their field of sight was restricted.

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- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
Have you ever looked into the algorithms used for such things? Seldom is the curvature even bothered with, for similar reasons that sailors use 'plane sailing.

Funny when I crossed oceans I used this method to shorten the distance:

http://www.coastalboating.net/Resources/Navigation/Calculators/greatcircle.html

For sailing short distances I use methods assuming a plane when navigating.  When covering large distances I use a method that assumes I am on a globe.

If you are truly not interested in spreading disinformation look up the difference between plane, Mercator and great circle sailing. 


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« Reply #256 on: December 17, 2016, 04:20:44 AM »
Carbon Nano-fibers are being biologically produced now by Monsanto. Ring any bells?! The truth|falsehood will be revealed by inspecting the facts.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #257 on: December 17, 2016, 11:20:31 AM »
Assuming there was a conspiracy, this is not the case. However, there need not have to be a conspiracy for the earth to be flat. Well, perhaps a conspiracy of ignorance.

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Funny you should mention that, because we have a moderator that is an engineer and pilot and has testified that he has never seen any such curvature and has never seen any evidence through flight that the earth was a globe. When I talk with folks about the issue, usually those saying they have reveal within a sentence or two they were either on a commercial jet that's too low to see curvature - even if the earth was round - or that they were in a military vehicle and their field of sight was restricted.

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- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
Have you ever looked into the algorithms used for such things? Seldom is the curvature even bothered with, for similar reasons that sailors use 'plane sailing.

Funny when I crossed oceans I used this method to shorten the distance:

http://www.coastalboating.net/Resources/Navigation/Calculators/greatcircle.html

For sailing short distances I use methods assuming a plane when navigating.  When covering large distances I use a method that assumes I am on a globe.

If you are truly not interested in spreading disinformation look up the difference between plane, Mercator and great circle sailing. 


Great circles are completely coherent with a flat earth. You have to wake up pretty early in the morning to fool us.
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« Reply #258 on: December 17, 2016, 11:42:01 AM »
There still exists the option that they are just wrong and there is no conspiracy. We are dealing with professions that are based on lying, cheating, and breaking the rules to gain the funding and grants they need for their pet theories. Again and again studies show that peer review is a joke, scientists and academics routinely engage in academic misconduct, and that the reason why most studies are wrong is because of interests such as funding. Its not that far of a stretch to say that we were wrong yet once again.

So speaks a failed and bitter man...you see others gaining plaudits form the main stream for hard work and good science...Nobel prizes......and there's you, a bit of a failure, so how can you compete?......gather  a group of misfits who are easily impressed and will believe any nonesense as long as it makes them rise above the shitty position they are already in....immediate symbiosis. You have your fans, they have a fantasy.
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« Reply #259 on: December 17, 2016, 11:52:24 AM »
Noted zeteticist Eric Dubay in his book The Flat Earth Conspiracy talked at length about the dinosaur lie.

In his extensive research that certainly did not limit itself to a google search and copy pasting entire books worth of 1800s era flat earth literature, he encovered that Dinosaur fossils are actually created in China by this company.
He claims matter of factly that bird and animal bones are 'melted down' and made into fake dinosaur fossils.

Are dinosaurs real? As Daniel is currently located in Hong Kong, I'll send along a message to see if he can delve a bit deeper. Until then, are dinosaurs fake?

Or did they build floating nests to migrate? Or is the area of our dome expanding due to green house gasses? Did dinosaurs travel here from outside the firmament? Are they attracted to the moonlight that is so dangerous to man? Are they just big birds?




I think you might want to lie down before you read this possibly flat, as it's a position you appear to be fond of.
You are correct, there is indeed quite a bit of fossil skulduggery going on in China with some serious hoaxes being perpetrated by people on the make.
Just for balance here is some ancient fossil tracks that I have visited.....though not from China.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/12/151201-dinosaur-sauropod-scotland-footprints-science/
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #260 on: December 17, 2016, 11:53:35 AM »
You could not be more incorrect. I am not a failed man, but the leading Zetetic scientist of our time. I have advanced our knowledge of the universe more so than any one other person since Rowbotham himself. When the veil is lifted from the eyes of the world, they will sing songs to laud the sacrifices that have led to what we know about the flat earth.

It is you, good sir, who sits in fantasy. The Earth is Flat - its plane as that. I bring up legitimate points, and instead of addressing them you attack the man. You have no argument, and you can't even support your own views. I show you the truth of the flat earth, and you are content to pat yourself on the back and spit downwards on others.

Academia is a rotten wasteland of corruption and it needs to be gutted, and you are a fool to stand with it.
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« Reply #261 on: December 17, 2016, 12:21:37 PM »
You could not be more incorrect. I am not a failed man, but the leading Zetetic scientist of our time. I have advanced our knowledge of the universe more so than any one other person since Rowbotham himself. When the veil is lifted from the eyes of the world, they will sing songs to laud the sacrifices that have led to what we know about the flat earth.

It is you, good sir, who sits in fantasy. The Earth is Flat - its plane as that. I bring up legitimate points, and instead of addressing them you attack the man. You have no argument, and you can't even support your own views. I show you the truth of the flat earth, and you are content to pat yourself on the back and spit downwards on others.

Academia is a rotten wasteland of corruption and it needs to be gutted, and you are a fool to stand with it.

Wow...illusions of grandeur to boot. You must be well pleased with yourself, but please be careful of how you use the word true.
In what you say it appears you hoist yourself on to a lofty pedestal.....and then At the same time consign the whole of acedemia......that's all of it to the wastebin, strong words..the world is a large place but not as large as your ego! Do you think it might be visible this evening if we have clear sky?
You make PAPA legba appear normal.....well done.

Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #262 on: December 17, 2016, 12:22:55 PM »
You could not be more incorrect. I am not a failed man, but the leading Zetetic scientist of our time. I have advanced our knowledge of the universe more so than any one other person since Rowbotham himself. When the veil is lifted from the eyes of the world, they will sing songs to laud the sacrifices that have led to what we know about the flat earth.

It is you, good sir, who sits in fantasy. The Earth is Flat - its plane as that. I bring up legitimate points, and instead of addressing them you attack the man. You have no argument, and you can't even support your own views. I show you the truth of the flat earth, and you are content to pat yourself on the back and spit downwards on others.

Academia is a rotten wasteland of corruption and it needs to be gutted, and you are a fool to stand with it.

Incedentally, how long have you been let out for?

Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #263 on: December 17, 2016, 12:25:33 PM »
You could not be more incorrect. I am not a failed man, but the leading Zetetic scientist of our time. I have advanced our knowledge of the universe more so than any one other person since Rowbotham himself. When the veil is lifted from the eyes of the world, they will sing songs to laud the sacrifices that have led to what we know about the flat earth.

It is you, good sir, who sits in fantasy. The Earth is Flat - its plane as that. I bring up legitimate points, and instead of addressing them you attack the man. You have no argument, and you can't even support your own views. I show you the truth of the flat earth, and you are content to pat yourself on the back and spit downwards on others.

Academia is a rotten wasteland of corruption and it needs to be gutted, and you are a fool to stand with it.
I believe you are learning Chinese...

你他妈的


Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #264 on: December 17, 2016, 12:29:49 PM »
You could not be more incorrect. I am not a failed man, but the leading Zetetic scientist of our time. I have advanced our knowledge of the universe more so than any one other person since Rowbotham himself. When the veil is lifted from the eyes of the world, they will sing songs to laud the sacrifices that have led to what we know about the flat earth.

It is you, good sir, who sits in fantasy. The Earth is Flat - its plane as that. I bring up legitimate points, and instead of addressing them you attack the man. You have no argument, and you can't even support your own views. I show you the truth of the flat earth, and you are content to pat yourself on the back and spit downwards on others.

Academia is a rotten wasteland of corruption and it needs to be gutted, and you are a fool to stand with it.
I believe you are learning Chinese...

你他妈的

Actually a rough translation would be

"My hovercraft is full of eeels"

There will be a bonus of 50 flat earth doubloons for anyone who can name the show that phrase was taken from...they were almost a big a bunch of jokers as that man Davis!

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #265 on: December 17, 2016, 01:29:51 PM »
You could not be more incorrect. I am not a failed man, but the leading Zetetic scientist of our time. I have advanced our knowledge of the universe more so than any one other person since Rowbotham himself. When the veil is lifted from the eyes of the world, they will sing songs to laud the sacrifices that have led to what we know about the flat earth.
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Academia is a rotten wasteland of corruption and it needs to be gutted, and you are a fool to stand with it.
I believe you are learning Chinese...

你他妈的

Actually a rough translation would be

"My hovercraft is full of eeels"

There will be a bonus of 50 flat earth doubloons for anyone who can name the show that phrase was taken from...they were almost a big a bunch of jokers as that man Davis!

If I was trying to buy a hovercraft is full of eels from a high ranking Chinese official, I really not like to be told "你他妈的"!
Still, I've had no experience at Chinese business dealings.

Our "illustrious" former Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd who "speaks" Mandarin, tried to order in Mandarin in a Chinese Restaurant, only to be told, "please speak in plain English!"

So I wouldn't get Kevin to help with these negotiations either - look up "Kevin Rudd" in Bloopers.
This was told by Kevin Rudd himself, looks like he at least has a sense of humour.

As of course has that "leading Zetetic scientist of our time", the illustrious John Davis.
When the time finally comes and all "will sing songs to laud the sacrifices" of the few all around the Globe.
His name will indubitably be up there in lights with his heroes Aristotle, non-Euclid, Ptolemy, Copernicus, Kepler, Newton and Einstein.

PS: If you have contact with John Davis, please tell him that we no longer use "Dinosaurs, Made In China". When asked for a better deal we were told 你他妈的, and we did not want any eels,
       So we now use genuine Thai and Indian dinosaur fossils, at a much better price, and all properly aged and with "guarantee of authenticity".

Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #266 on: December 17, 2016, 01:42:28 PM »
Assuming there was a conspiracy, this is not the case. However, there need not have to be a conspiracy for the earth to be flat. Well, perhaps a conspiracy of ignorance.

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Funny you should mention that, because we have a moderator that is an engineer and pilot and has testified that he has never seen any such curvature and has never seen any evidence through flight that the earth was a globe. When I talk with folks about the issue, usually those saying they have reveal within a sentence or two they were either on a commercial jet that's too low to see curvature - even if the earth was round - or that they were in a military vehicle and their field of sight was restricted.

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Have you ever looked into the algorithms used for such things? Seldom is the curvature even bothered with, for similar reasons that sailors use 'plane sailing.

Funny when I crossed oceans I used this method to shorten the distance:

http://www.coastalboating.net/Resources/Navigation/Calculators/greatcircle.html

For sailing short distances I use methods assuming a plane when navigating.  When covering large distances I use a method that assumes I am on a globe.

If you are truly not interested in spreading disinformation look up the difference between plane, Mercator and great circle sailing. 


Great circles are completely coherent with a flat earth. You have to wake up pretty early in the morning to fool us.
How is it coherent with a flat earth? For great circle sailing to work the great circles must be the shortest paths, which is the definition of a straight line. If the angles we get for navigating are correct then the sum angles in a triangle of great circles is greater than 180o, which means that the space isn't flat. If the angles we get for navigating are wrong then clearly great circle navigation shouldn't work since we would be sailing in the wrong directions.
So either the surface isn't flat or great circle navigation doesn't work.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #267 on: December 17, 2016, 02:09:04 PM »
Assuming there was a conspiracy, this is not the case. However, there need not have to be a conspiracy for the earth to be flat. Well, perhaps a conspiracy of ignorance.

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- All pilots
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Funny you should mention that, because we have a moderator that is an engineer and pilot and has testified that he has never seen any such curvature and has never seen any evidence through flight that the earth was a globe. When I talk with folks about the issue, usually those saying they have reveal within a sentence or two they were either on a commercial jet that's too low to see curvature - even if the earth was round - or that they were in a military vehicle and their field of sight was restricted.

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- All cargo and freight delivering companies that transport internationally
Have you ever looked into the algorithms used for such things? Seldom is the curvature even bothered with, for similar reasons that sailors use 'plane sailing.

Funny when I crossed oceans I used this method to shorten the distance:

http://www.coastalboating.net/Resources/Navigation/Calculators/greatcircle.html

For sailing short distances I use methods assuming a plane when navigating.  When covering large distances I use a method that assumes I am on a globe.

If you are truly not interested in spreading disinformation look up the difference between plane, Mercator and great circle sailing. 


Great circles are completely coherent with a flat earth. You have to wake up pretty early in the morning to fool us.
How is it coherent with a flat earth? For great circle sailing to work the great circles must be the shortest paths, which is the definition of a straight line. If the angles we get for navigating are correct then the sum angles in a triangle of great circles is greater than 180o, which means that the space isn't flat. If the angles we get for navigating are wrong then clearly great circle navigation shouldn't work since we would be sailing in the wrong directions.
So either the surface isn't flat or great circle navigation doesn't work.

You beat me to it.

John the shortest distance between two points on a flat surface is a straight line. 

A great circle route is not a straight line.  I know this because when I used them I had to make course corrections every day to somewhat follow the planned route.  I say somewhat because wind and water currents also had to be considered.

Maybe with your model where everything points to the Earth being round but it is actually flat.  So some how when crossing from somewhere in Japan to somewhere on the US West Coast a great circle route is shorter than a straight line.

You also seemed to only consider plane sailing and ignored the existence of mercator and great circle sailing which is used for long distances like crossing oceans.  There are some exceptions if  wind and water currents would result in getting to the destination faster and/or save fuel.

Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #268 on: December 17, 2016, 02:21:11 PM »
Your no fun....at least make an attempt to guess what show the phrase regarding the eels if from. The Chinese phrase is somewhat more fuck you!...but mr Davis deserves that for being such a  prat.

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Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China
« Reply #269 on: December 17, 2016, 02:35:10 PM »
Your no fun....at least make an attempt to guess what show the phrase regarding the eels if from. The Chinese phrase is somewhat more fuck you!...but mr Davis deserves that for being such a  prat.
Which was the whole point of my post Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China « Reply #265 on: Today at 07:29:51 AM ».
Maybe I made it too long.