The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #720 on: March 24, 2016, 08:17:38 AM »
Papa Short Bus Legba is a text book example of a circular thinking. No matter what proofs you present, it just means he's right and everyone else is wrong and are liars.

The sad part is he not getting the help he needs.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #721 on: March 24, 2016, 08:53:57 AM »
Papa Short Bus Legba is a text book example of a circular thinking. No matter what proofs you present, it just means he's right and everyone else is wrong and are liars.

The sad part is he not getting the help he needs.

Well you're not helping, being the first post on the top of the page!
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #722 on: March 24, 2016, 08:56:17 AM »
Guys, Papa's premise is that no matter what any of us has to say, he believes we are just trying to spout false information in order to convince him that NASA, science or anything else for that matter is true. So there's really nothing left to say, he won't ever concede any point, so I ask again, why bother?

He admits he believes that everyone here are shills that are paid to silence him (yes, he loves that attention). I only laugh at that kind of paranoia but really, I hope you do this out of boredom because I don't see point in trying to argue with a dead body.

And by the way, ISS is real and earth is round, no matter what they say. It is evidenced and documented.

Off to to the flat earthers to demonstrate the contrary.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #723 on: March 24, 2016, 09:04:55 AM »
Guys, Papa's premise is that no matter what any of us has to say, he believes we are just trying to spout false information in order to convince him that NASA, science or anything else for that matter is true. So there's really nothing left to say, he won't ever concede any point, so I ask again, why bother?

He admits he believes that everyone here are shills that are paid to silence him (yes, he loves that attention). I only laugh at that kind of paranoia but really, I hope you do this out of boredom because I don't see point in trying to argue with a dead body.

And by the way, ISS is real and earth is round, no matter what they say. It is evidenced and documented.

Off to to the flat earthers to demonstrate the contrary.

Agreed.  And Rule #1 is STOP feeding the Troll.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #724 on: March 24, 2016, 01:03:46 PM »
Yup, here comes the astroturfing from proven Liars & sock-puppeteers...

These Liars REALLY don't want you to simply observe teh fake ISS with your naked eye & compare it to other planes in terms of speed & trajectory.
Let's see what we have here:

I claim to have seen the ISS on time where it was supposed to be and moving much faster across the sky than any jet that I've ever seen (and I've seen plenty of high altitude jets crawl across the sky).

You claim to have seen a NASA Gulfstream jet with a spotlight underneath pretending to be the ISS arrive 12 hours, coming from the wrong direction and show a picture of a known NASA research jet with a radar pod mounted underneath as evidence.

Who do you think that neutral readers are more likely to believe?

So you REALLY should!
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #725 on: March 24, 2016, 01:14:37 PM »
Guys Fellow trolls, Papa's premise is that no matter what any of us has to say, he believes knows we are just trying to spout false information in order to convince him that NASA, science or anything else for that matter is true. So there's really nothing left to say, he won't ever concede any point, so I ask again, why bother?

He admits he believes that everyone people like us are shills that are paid to silence him (yes, he loves that attention). I only laugh at that kind of paranoia but really, I hope you do this out of boredom because I don't see point in trying to argue with a dead body thinker.

And by the way, ISS is real and earth is round, no matter what they say. It is evidenced and documented.

Off to to the flat earthers to demonstrate the contrary.

I fixed some of your errors. No, the iss is not real. I have yet to see any evidence that suggests it's anything more than a meme to encourage scientism. Look that up as I doubt you've ever heard of the word.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #726 on: March 24, 2016, 01:57:50 PM »
No, the iss is not real.

Confusing your opinion with fact again, I see.

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I have yet to see any evidence that suggests it's anything more than a meme to encourage scientism.

See... you admit that your opinion (stated as a fact) is based on no evidence. BTW, nice job wording so it obfuscates your lack of evidence that it is "a meme to encourage scientism"; if you did have such evidence, you'd simply present it. You have no evidence either way, i.e. no evidence at all.

You specialize in that, don't you?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #727 on: March 24, 2016, 02:21:05 PM »
No, the iss is not real.

Confusing your opinion with fact again, I see.

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I have yet to see any evidence that suggests it's anything more than a meme to encourage scientism.

See... you admit that your opinion (stated as a fact) is based on no evidence. BTW, nice job wording so it obfuscates your lack of evidence that it is "a meme to encourage scientism"; if you did have such evidence, you'd simply present it. You have no evidence either way, i.e. no evidence at all.

You specialize in that, don't you?

Yes, I do specialise in pointing out a lack evidence. Thanks for noticing.

I have seen no evidence that life exists elsewhere in the universe. Many people believe it does exist, but that doesn't make it true. I see alien life as yet-another-meme to encourage scientism. I'm a little more demanding than you space cultists.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #728 on: March 24, 2016, 02:28:25 PM »
Did you try reading the previous page?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #729 on: March 24, 2016, 02:34:35 PM »
Did you try reading the previous page?

What?
"Indoctrination [...] is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned".

Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #730 on: March 24, 2016, 02:49:02 PM »
No, the iss is not real.

Confusing your opinion with fact again, I see.

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I have yet to see any evidence that suggests it's anything more than a meme to encourage scientism.

See... you admit that your opinion (stated as a fact) is based on no evidence. BTW, nice job wording so it obfuscates your lack of evidence that it is "a meme to encourage scientism"; if you did have such evidence, you'd simply present it. You have no evidence either way, i.e. no evidence at all.

You specialize in that, don't you?

Yes, I do specialise in pointing out a lack evidence. Thanks for noticing.

You said you had no evidence, not that there's a lack of evidence. See the difference?

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I have seen no evidence that life exists elsewhere in the universe. Many people believe it does exist, but that doesn't make it true. I see alien life as yet-another-meme to encourage scientism.

At least you stated your opinion as an opinion this time. Better. Thanks!

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I'm a little more demanding than you space cultists.


Demanding of what? You happily form an opinion without evidence and and brag about not having evidence for it. I'm not sure that's a good thing.

So... are you going to try to justify making an argument from incredulity, or are you going to provide some evidence (not just more empty talk, please) that the ISS is "a meme to encourage scientism"? I'll wait.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #731 on: March 24, 2016, 03:01:17 PM »
No, the iss is not real.

Confusing your opinion with fact again, I see.

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I have yet to see any evidence that suggests it's anything more than a meme to encourage scientism.

See... you admit that your opinion (stated as a fact) is based on no evidence. BTW, nice job wording so it obfuscates your lack of evidence that it is "a meme to encourage scientism"; if you did have such evidence, you'd simply present it. You have no evidence either way, i.e. no evidence at all.

You specialize in that, don't you?

Yes, I do specialise in pointing out a lack evidence. Thanks for noticing.

You said you had no evidence, not that there's a lack of evidence. See the difference?

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I have seen no evidence that life exists elsewhere in the universe. Many people believe it does exist, but that doesn't make it true. I see alien life as yet-another-meme to encourage scientism.

At least you stated your opinion as an opinion this time. Better. Thanks!

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I'm a little more demanding than you space cultists.


Demanding of what? You happily form an opinion without evidence and and brag about not having evidence for it. I'm not sure that's a good thing.

So... are you going to try to justify making an argument from incredulity, or are you going to provide some evidence (not just more empty talk, please) that the ISS is "a meme to encourage scientism"? I'll wait.

Nice to see you are trying to learn logic. About time too. Let me add to your learning:

1. The "evidence" you space cultists have for the iss thing being real is: some youtube videos, a few random internet photos, and maths. All of which are easily faked or misunderstood.

2. The evidence I have that it is all fake memes-for-scientism is point 1.

Seeing as nobody has given any compelling evidence to suggest that the apollo missions were genuine (in feuk's thread), I must conclude that you space cultists have been fooled ever since the 1960's.

I am of course prepared to adjust my position should any evidence be presented.



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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #732 on: March 24, 2016, 03:18:50 PM »
The 1950's in fact, legion.

That's when it became apparent that the combination of aerodynamic heating & lack of atmospheric resistance, leading to loss of thrust & inertia coupling, meant no truly controlled very high-altitude hypersonic flight was practical.

It's just been propaganda since.

There's nothing man-made in 'space'.

Never will be.

It's all sci-fi bullshit; all 60 years of it.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #733 on: March 24, 2016, 03:20:42 PM »
No, the iss is not real.

Confusing your opinion with fact again, I see.

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I have yet to see any evidence that suggests it's anything more than a meme to encourage scientism.

See... you admit that your opinion (stated as a fact) is based on no evidence. BTW, nice job wording so it obfuscates your lack of evidence that it is "a meme to encourage scientism"; if you did have such evidence, you'd simply present it. You have no evidence either way, i.e. no evidence at all.

You specialize in that, don't you?

Yes, I do specialise in pointing out a lack evidence. Thanks for noticing.

You said you had no evidence, not that there's a lack of evidence. See the difference?

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I have seen no evidence that life exists elsewhere in the universe. Many people believe it does exist, but that doesn't make it true. I see alien life as yet-another-meme to encourage scientism.

At least you stated your opinion as an opinion this time. Better. Thanks!

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I'm a little more demanding than you space cultists.


Demanding of what? You happily form an opinion without evidence and and brag about not having evidence for it. I'm not sure that's a good thing.

So... are you going to try to justify making an argument from incredulity, or are you going to provide some evidence (not just more empty talk, please) that the ISS is "a meme to encourage scientism"? I'll wait.

Nice to see you are trying to learn logic. About time too. Let me add to your learning:

1. The "evidence" you space cultists have for the iss thing being real is: some youtube videos, a few random internet photos, and maths. All of which are easily faked or misunderstood.

2. The evidence I have that it is all fake memes-for-scientism is point 1.

Seeing as nobody has given any compelling evidence to suggest that the apollo missions were genuine (in feuk's thread), I must conclude that you space cultists have been fooled ever since the 1960's.

I am of course prepared to adjust my position should any evidence be presented.

More circular logic.  State and opinion,  then back up by stating another opinion while never presenting evidence that either opinion is more than opinion. 

Well it dose sum up FET rather well, I'll give you that.

BTW Legion, I've met both Armstrong and Aldrin and talked them about Apollo 11, have you?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #734 on: March 24, 2016, 03:29:44 PM »
Did you try reading the previous page?

What?

Did you try reading the previous page?
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legion

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #735 on: March 24, 2016, 03:35:03 PM »
"Indoctrination [...] is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned".

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #736 on: March 24, 2016, 03:36:00 PM »
BTW Legion, I've met both Armstrong and Aldrin and talked them about Apollo 11, have you?

LMFAO!!!
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #737 on: March 24, 2016, 03:38:19 PM »
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #738 on: March 24, 2016, 03:41:18 PM »
Here is a photo of a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight/projector slung beneath it:



There is also something else in this photo...

Can any of you see what it is?

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #739 on: March 24, 2016, 03:43:21 PM »
Did you try reading the previous page?

What?

Did you try reading the previous page?

What?

Did you try reading the previous page?

sockpuppet, which post in the previous page? I saw nothing helpful to you space cultists, so you'll have to direct me somewhere that you believe makes your position less embarrassing.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #740 on: March 24, 2016, 03:48:06 PM »
Did you try reading the previous page?

What?

Did you try reading the previous page?

What?

Did you try reading the previous page?

sockpuppet, which post in the previous page? I saw nothing helpful to you space cultists, so you'll have to direct me somewhere that you believe makes your position less embarrassing.
Was that so hard? It's amazing what you can accomplish if you don't act like a halfwit.

Did you see the videos on the previous page?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #741 on: March 24, 2016, 03:48:49 PM »
Here is a photo of a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight/projector slung beneath it:



There is also something else in this photo...

Can any of you see what it is?
The radar pod?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #742 on: March 24, 2016, 03:49:47 PM »
I suggest that readers go look at teh silly fake ISS, without a telescope, using all the advantages in terms of depth of field, breadth of vision & judgement of distance that natural vision imparts, & decide for themselves if its speed & trajectory look any different to that of a jet plane with a spotlight on.

Because they do not.

It's just a cheap conjuring trick.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #743 on: March 24, 2016, 03:51:06 PM »
Here is a photo of a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight/projector slung beneath it:



There is also something else in this photo...

Can any of you see what it is?
The radar pod?

You're feeding the Troll
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #744 on: March 24, 2016, 03:54:17 PM »
Here is a photo of a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight/projector slung beneath it:



There is also something else in this photo...

Can any of you see what it is?
The radar pod?

You're feeding the Troll

You are the troll. On your way mindless space cultist.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #745 on: March 24, 2016, 03:57:34 PM »
Again; here is a photo of a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight/projector slung beneath it:



There is also something else in this photo...

Can any of you see what it is?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #746 on: March 24, 2016, 04:00:33 PM »
Here is a photo of a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight/projector slung beneath it:



There is also something else in this photo...

Can any of you see what it is?
The radar pod?

You're feeding the Troll

You are the troll. On your way mindless space cultist.

In other words you can't refute the facts, just like Papa. So  you're just one more person that has a file of cut and past responses incapable of factual debating.

Space Cultist? That's all ya got?

What about math and science scares you shitless?

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #747 on: March 24, 2016, 04:04:03 PM »
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #748 on: March 24, 2016, 04:04:23 PM »
Why is this page over 25 posts long?

Has something changed round here?

If so why?

LOL!!!

What a fraud this forum is!
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #749 on: March 24, 2016, 04:07:15 PM »
Again; here is a photo of a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight/projector slung beneath it:



There is also something else in this photo...

Can any of you see what it is?

Why are you so terrified of answering?

And how many posts long is this page now?

LOL!!!

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