The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #690 on: March 23, 2016, 06:19:00 AM »
In fairness to PL (and I'm not sure why I should be, given his nature), he may possibly be referring to the Tsiolkovsky equation. However, this doesn't limit the final velocity of the rocket to the velocity of the exhaust, it is simply a factor.

The equation is:-

Vdelta  = Ve x ln (m0/m1)

Vdelta = change in velocity
Ve = exhaust velocity
m0 = initial rocket mass including propellant
m1 = final rocket mass minus burnt propellant

So you can see the 2 velocities are mathematically related.

You can also see that providing  ln (m0/m1) > 1 , then the rocket velocity will exceed the velocity of the exhaust gas. On other words, providing m0 >= 2.72 * m1, then the rocket's change in velocity will be greater than the velocity of the exhaust gas.

All of which I'm sure Poppa meant to say, but just got... confused?

That's OK, we all get confused occasionally. I'm not confused now I'm on the right meds. I don't like taking them though - I feed them to the gorilla that sleeps in my wardobe here on the unit. He's gonna need them more than me for his next spell in the ISS Gulfstream jet.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #691 on: March 23, 2016, 07:28:39 AM »
No; I believe that you obsessively grabbing top spot on each page is voodoo.

I also believe you retards don't know the meaning of the words 'equal & opposite'.

And that teh silly fake ISS is a Gulfstream jet with a spotlight stuck to it.

The last one's easy; just go look at it.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #692 on: March 23, 2016, 08:04:40 AM »
^lol

^Newton did not say "equal and opposite velocity"


^lol


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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #693 on: March 23, 2016, 09:36:01 AM »
Just to lol some more.
See how the man and ball have different velocity(and speed)?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #695 on: March 23, 2016, 02:39:49 PM »
Thanks for the rampant autism, derailing & cartoon bullshit.

Meanwhile, here's your ISS:



Idiots.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #697 on: March 23, 2016, 02:53:09 PM »
increasingly so as time goes on.

Cartoon? didnt see any evidence of cartoons there matey.

Here's another.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #698 on: March 23, 2016, 02:58:34 PM »
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #699 on: March 23, 2016, 03:05:49 PM »
Although im married. Your arguments are of such childish comments. If anyone thus rage is from you. Must be hard locked up in a mental asylum all by yourself. Do I sense frustration?

Heres another ISS video from another amature astonomer

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Thats 3 videos in as many minutes. All different people. Or are you suggesting they get accurate scale measurements from each other before such CGI forgery.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #701 on: March 23, 2016, 03:20:39 PM »
The thing that makes me laugh is your evidence is an aircraft nearly on the ground.

Where is such photo or video to show the gulf jet through a telescope with a spotlight switched on?

Precisely there isnt.

What there is, is actual photos and videos of the ISS. There isn't any videos of a gulf jet with a spotlight. Because you know. I'm sure someone would have noticed and took a photo.


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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #702 on: March 23, 2016, 03:29:04 PM »
Oooh!

Looks like I've got a pair of little autistic stalkers fulla virgin-rage on my case...

You guessed it - TylerJRB & Sokarul!

Meanwhile, here's teh silly fake ISS again:



Ever get the feeling you've been had?
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #703 on: March 23, 2016, 03:34:56 PM »
Oooh!

Looks like I've got a pair of little autistic stalkers fulla virgin-rage on my case...

You guessed it - TylerJRB & Sokarul!

Meanwhile, here's teh silly fake ISS again:



Ever get the feeling you've been had?

Let's see a picture up in the air with its spotlight on. Should be easy to find an image if what you say is true.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #704 on: March 23, 2016, 03:41:34 PM »
I don't need to find you gang-stalking psychos a goddamn thing.

Because I've seen it with my own eyes.

And I told you that it was only when the spotlight was turned off that the shape of the Gulfstream could be discerned.

You can bang on as long as you like; you won't change what I saw.

Go look for yourselves, eh?

Just don't lie about it...

LOL!!!

As if!
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #705 on: March 23, 2016, 03:48:07 PM »
quite clearly you have not.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #706 on: March 23, 2016, 08:21:15 PM »
Go look for yourselves, eh?
I did, and what I saw wasn't a jet with a spotlight.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #707 on: March 23, 2016, 11:22:31 PM »
As you & TylerJRB have been repeatedly caught Lying, your word is worth squat.

I'm suggesting that readers go look at it, without a telescope, & decide for themselves if its speed & trajectory look any different to that of a jet plane with a spotlight on.

Because they do not.

It's just a cheap trick.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #708 on: March 24, 2016, 03:45:42 AM »
As you & TylerJRB have been repeatedly caught Lying, your word is worth squat.

I'm suggesting that readers go look at it, without a telescope, & decide for themselves if its speed & trajectory look any different to that of a jet plane with a spotlight on.

Because they do not.

It's just a cheap trick.

That makes no logical sense. Even so if a randomer stumbled here. Said I will look at the ISS. Proceeded to look at the ISS. Says it looks like what we have described.

You would not beleive them.

Why shouldn't they look with a telescope?

Ahh yes because there are no photos or videos of the ISS looking like what you have described through a telescope. But there is thousands of what we have described.

I take it you looked at the ISS in the daytime. Which i doubt a spotlight would even be visible.

If you say you viewed it at night you're a liar. Impossible to pick out the shape of a gulf jet at that much altitude in the dark with your bare eyes.

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #709 on: March 24, 2016, 04:00:16 AM »
Why shouldn't they look with a telescope?

Because when they do so they give up all the considerable advantages in terms of depth of field, breadth of view & judgement of distance that unaided vision gives them.

Which is why all you scum insist they DO use a telescope, isn't it?

As for the rest of your post; complete garbage from a proven Liar & Fantasist.

Stop wasting my time & go create a sock account for claiming that you are a random stranger who only joined in order to tell me I am wrong, send me creepy PMs, & all the rest of the psychotic nonsense you autistic idiots have been doing for months....

You are all pathetic.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #710 on: March 24, 2016, 04:05:15 AM »
Why shouldn't they look with a telescope?

Because when they do so they give up all the considerable advantages in terms of depth of field, breadth of view & judgement of distance that unaided vision gives them.

Which is why all you scum insist they DO use a telescope, isn't it?

As for the rest of your post; complete garbage from a proven Liar & Fantasist.

Stop wasting my time & go create a sock account for claiming that you are a random stranger who only joined in order to tell me I am wrong, send me creepy PMs, & all the rest of the psychotic nonsense you autistic idiots have been doing for months....

You are all pathetic.

It allows you to zoom into the object. Revealing a lot more detail than just a bright dot.

I insist using a telescope so you can actually see what the thing looks like. You can hardly say that bright dot is the ISS. That bright dot is a jet. Without actually using one. Looking at it in more detail and confirming for yourself that is what it looks like.


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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #711 on: March 24, 2016, 04:13:10 AM »
I insist using a telescope so you can actually see what the thing looks like.

Of course you do.

I said you would & I explained why.

Because you want us to see whatever the spotlight/projector on the Gulfstream is projecting, completely removed from any context as to its relative speed, altitude, trajectory etc.

Because you are a proven Liar & Disinfo-Peddlar.

Now stop wasting my time with your brain-damaged nonsense & go create that sock-ID...

And stop making instant astroturfing garbage-replies to my posts too, you shit-at-your-job retard.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #712 on: March 24, 2016, 04:51:57 AM »
SOP Papa Short Bus response; Because I said so.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #713 on: March 24, 2016, 05:02:56 AM »
^Astroturfing Clown.

^Shit at his job.

^Doesn't want you to look at teh silly fake ISS with the naked eye because he doesn't want you to see it looks just like a plane with a spotlight.

^Failing miserably.

Now, let's look at a NASA Gulfstream with what could easily be a spotlight beneath it:



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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #714 on: March 24, 2016, 05:17:59 AM »
lol

spotlight?

lol

Try radar

lol

http://uavsar.jpl.nasa.gov/

lol

retard

lol

Are you ever going to go back to posting like this?


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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #715 on: March 24, 2016, 05:30:06 AM »
As you & TylerJRB have been repeatedly caught Lying, your word is worth squat.
And you've repeatedly falsely accused me of lying and using sock-puppets, so excuse me if I don't trust you much either.

I'm suggesting that readers go look at it, without a telescope, & decide for themselves if its speed & trajectory look any different to that of a jet plane with a spotlight on.
Again, I have personally done 2 naked eye observations of the ISS and it appeared on schedule and its speed was far faster than any jet that I've ever seen.  The lack of a contrail was another dead giveaway that it wasn't a jet.

So, I guess it's your word against mine.
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #716 on: March 24, 2016, 05:36:26 AM »
Yup, here comes the astroturfing from proven Liars & sock-puppeteers...

These Liars REALLY don't want you to simply observe teh fake ISS with your naked eye & compare it to other planes in terms of speed & trajectory.

So you REALLY should!
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #717 on: March 24, 2016, 06:27:51 AM »
Yup, here comes the astroturfing from proven Liars & sock-puppeteers...

These Liars REALLY don't want you to simply observe teh fake ISS with your naked eye & compare it to other planes in terms of speed & trajectory.

So you REALLY should!
Is there anyone that agrees with you?

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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #718 on: March 24, 2016, 07:50:46 AM »
Yup, here comes the astroturfing from proven Liars & sock-puppeteers...

These Liars REALLY don't want you to simply observe teh fake ISS with your naked eye & compare it to other planes in terms of speed & trajectory.

So you REALLY should!
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Re: The ISS is a Gulfstream jet.
« Reply #719 on: March 24, 2016, 07:58:36 AM »
Is there anyone that agrees with you?

Clearly, butthurt little inquisi-bot.

If there wasn't, I wouldn't have a posse of proven Liars like you desperately trying to claim the opposite, would I?

The simple fact that you are prepared to Lie about this issue shows that I have a point.

Because if teh silly fake ISS were exactly what you claim there would be no reason whatsoever for you to Lie about it, would there?

Yet anyone reading through this thread will see numerous occasions where you have openly Lied.

So you must be covering something up.

Really; this is pretty obvious stuff; any detective could tell you that Lying is a sign of Guilt...

Which is why I say you are all shit at your jobs & would last about two minutes under interrogation IRL before being dragged out & shot in the head.

Glad to know you have come around to believing the X-15 is real

Wtf are you talking about?

Teh silly fake ISS behaves no differently to any other other high-subsonic, high-altitude plane.

Compare them & see.

Well, as you are a proven Liar I know you won't...

But others may, & they will see that I am correct.

It's just a Gulfstream with a spotlight stuck to it.
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