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If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?

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If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« on: January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM »
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2016, 12:04:20 PM »
The hammer doesn't fall faster if they fall in a vacuum.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2016, 12:31:04 PM »
People go to jail for shining lasers into the sky.  Are you trying to get people arrested by suggesting this?   :(
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM »
Quote from: MrDebunk on January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
What kind of  laser are we talking about? and how do we receive the signal back?

It's just that on miff busters they went to this big observatory up a huge elevated height and watched some old woman press a button that sent this huge gigawatt laser beam at the muwn and its laser reflekta then get it back at the observatory a few seconds later.

In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Anyway I don't suppose silly things like that matter in the world of loser beams to the muwn.
I'll have a look in the cupboard to see if I have a muwn laser to try out.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2016, 01:24:06 PM »
Perhaps you can use that high-powered laser you own there Scepti.  Remember that one you used on a frozen lake to prove Earth is flat?  When are you going to post those results anyway?  A lot of new FE'rs here would love to see it.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2016, 02:20:47 PM »
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In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Indeed, hence why you point the laser at a slight angle
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2016, 02:54:45 PM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: MrDebunk on January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
What kind of  laser are we talking about? and how do we receive the signal back?

It's just that on miff busters they went to this big observatory up a huge elevated height and watched some old woman press a button that sent this huge gigawatt laser beam at the muwn and its laser reflekta then get it back at the observatory a few seconds later.

In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Anyway I don't suppose silly things like that matter in the world of loser beams to the muwn.
I'll have a look in the cupboard to see if I have a muwn laser to try out.

Maybe the moon is rotating fast enough that it would move a little tiny bit.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2016, 03:15:32 PM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: MrDebunk on January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
What kind of  laser are we talking about? and how do we receive the signal back?

It's just that on miff busters they went to this big observatory up a huge elevated height and watched some old woman press a button that sent this huge gigawatt laser beam at the muwn and its laser reflekta then get it back at the observatory a few seconds later.

In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Anyway I don't suppose silly things like that matter in the world of loser beams to the muwn.
I'll have a look in the cupboard to see if I have a muwn laser to try out.
To some know-it-alls anything they don't understand are just "silly", so they ridicule them, but
to more open minds things they don't understand create oppurtunities to learn more!
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2016, 04:14:44 PM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: MrDebunk on January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
What kind of  laser are we talking about? and how do we receive the signal back?

It's just that on miff busters they went to this big observatory up a huge elevated height and watched some old woman press a button that sent this huge gigawatt laser beam at the muwn and its laser reflekta then get it back at the observatory a few seconds later.

In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Anyway I don't suppose silly things like that matter in the world of loser beams to the muwn.
I'll have a look in the cupboard to see if I have a muwn laser to try out.
What's the size of the wave when it returns to earth?
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2016, 05:31:56 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: MrDebunk on January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
What kind of  laser are we talking about? and how do we receive the signal back?

It's just that on miff busters they went to this big observatory up a huge elevated height and watched some old woman press a button that sent this huge gigawatt laser beam at the muwn and its laser reflekta then get it back at the observatory a few seconds later.

In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Anyway I don't suppose silly things like that matter in the world of loser beams to the muwn.
I'll have a look in the cupboard to see if I have a muwn laser to try out.
What's the size of the wave when it returns to earth?

Are you asking for the amplitude of the wave, or the frequency?  ???
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2016, 05:41:47 PM »
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: MrDebunk on January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
What kind of  laser are we talking about? and how do we receive the signal back?

It's just that on miff busters they went to this big observatory up a huge elevated height and watched some old woman press a button that sent this huge gigawatt laser beam at the muwn and its laser reflekta then get it back at the observatory a few seconds later.

In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Anyway I don't suppose silly things like that matter in the world of loser beams to the muwn.
I'll have a look in the cupboard to see if I have a muwn laser to try out.
What's the size of the wave when it returns to earth?

Are you asking for the amplitude of the wave, or the frequency?  ???
Not either one of those.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2016, 05:46:26 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: MrDebunk on January 30, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Look up "hammer and feather" on Youtube. Of course the hammer falls faster, and by the way proof the moon landings were real. They did " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the experiment on the moon, and if you think that was fake, point a laser at some reflectors left by the astronauts.
What kind of  laser are we talking about? and how do we receive the signal back?

It's just that on miff busters they went to this big observatory up a huge elevated height and watched some old woman press a button that sent this huge gigawatt laser beam at the muwn and its laser reflekta then get it back at the observatory a few seconds later.

In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Anyway I don't suppose silly things like that matter in the world of loser beams to the muwn.
I'll have a look in the cupboard to see if I have a muwn laser to try out.
What's the size of the wave when it returns to earth?

Are you asking for the amplitude of the wave, or the frequency?  ???
Not either one of those.

Well, what did you mean when you asked about "the size of the wave"?  Most people would think you are discussing the amplitude when referring to a wave's size.  I gave you the benefit of the doubt by suggesting that perhaps you meant frequency.  But, it seems more and more that you just don't know anything about waves. 
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM »
You should have asked in your first post.

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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2016, 05:54:45 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
You should have asked in your first post.

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Are you saying that a laser reflected off of the moon has only a single wavefront?  And are you asking for its location?  You are very confusing.  ???
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2016, 06:00:50 PM »
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
You should have asked in your first post.

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Are you saying that a laser reflected off of the moon has only a single wavefront? 
I made no claims involving numbers. Please don't jump to conclusions.

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And are you asking for its location?  You are very confusing.  ???
Size, not location.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2016, 06:07:11 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
You should have asked in your first post.

Wavefront



Are you saying that a laser reflected off of the moon has only a single wavefront? 
I made no claims involving numbers. Please don't jump to conclusions.

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And are you asking for its location?  You are very confusing.  ???
Size, not location.

So, you are asking for the cross sectional diameter of the reflected photons? 
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2016, 06:13:24 PM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
In the few seconds it took to send and receive (about 4 approx), the Earth should have spun away from this rebounded beam by just under half a mile or so.

Wow you're so smart. Probably smarter than the engineers and scientists who use these systems. There's probably no way these people who are well versed in astronomy would take into account the rotation of the 2 planetary bodies for these experiments.

Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
People go to jail for shining lasers into the sky.  Are you trying to get people arrested by suggesting this?   :(

People look like idiots for suggesting civilians perform these experiments. Are you trying to look like an idiot? :(
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2016, 06:19:22 PM »
Quote from: Dog on January 30, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
People go to jail for shining lasers into the sky.  Are you trying to get people arrested by suggesting this?   :(

People look like idiots for suggesting civilians perform these experiments. Are you trying to look like an idiot? :(

You make it sound like I was the idiot who suggested people should shine lasers into the sky.  Do I need to post links and quotes, or are you going to admit that your statement was was wrong and a biased attack against me for simply not believing the way you do? 
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2016, 07:06:49 PM »
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
You should have asked in your first post.

Wavefront



Are you saying that a laser reflected off of the moon has only a single wavefront? 
I made no claims involving numbers. Please don't jump to conclusions.

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And are you asking for its location?  You are very confusing.  ???
Size, not location.

So, you are asking for the cross sectional diameter of the reflected photons?
The wavefront yes. 
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2016, 07:18:37 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
You should have asked in your first post.

Wavefront



Are you saying that a laser reflected off of the moon has only a single wavefront? 
I made no claims involving numbers. Please don't jump to conclusions.

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And are you asking for its location?  You are very confusing.  ???
Size, not location.

So, you are asking for the cross sectional diameter of the reflected photons?
The wavefront yes. 

Well, considering that the beam of light is likely bigger than the moon by the time it reaches the moon, assuming the moon is the size and distance that you roundies claim, then the photons would would be bouncing off in a halo that would be somewhere around 270 degrees or so around the moon.  In other words, much of the light would be reflected not only into space, but in the wrong direction of Earth.  Soooo, I can not calculate that diameter for you off the top of my head, but it would be really, really big and very few photons would actually reflect back to the Earth.  I am wondering what your point is with your line of questioning.  Have you ever studied physics, especially Optics, which is the science of light? 
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2016, 07:26:59 PM »
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
You should have asked in your first post.

Wavefront



Are you saying that a laser reflected off of the moon has only a single wavefront? 
I made no claims involving numbers. Please don't jump to conclusions.

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And are you asking for its location?  You are very confusing.  ???
Size, not location.

So, you are asking for the cross sectional diameter of the reflected photons?
The wavefront yes. 

Well, considering that the beam of light is likely bigger than the moon by the time it reaches the moon, assuming the moon is the size and distance that you roundies claim, then the photons would would be bouncing off in a halo that would be somewhere around 270 degrees or so around the moon.  In other words, much of the light would be reflected not only into space, but in the wrong direction of Earth.  Soooo, I can not calculate that diameter for you off the top of my head, but it would be really, really big and very few photons would actually reflect back to the Earth.  I am wondering what your point is with your line of questioning.  Have you ever studied physics, especially Optics, which is the science of light?
The reflector would be a retroreflector to minimize reflections in the wrong direction. But anyways yes, only a few photons make it back to the detector. Now maybe go back to my original post and see what I was responding to. I bet you can figure out what I am getting at real quick.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2016, 07:49:39 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
You should have asked in your first post.

Wavefront



Are you saying that a laser reflected off of the moon has only a single wavefront? 
I made no claims involving numbers. Please don't jump to conclusions.

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And are you asking for its location?  You are very confusing.  ???
Size, not location.

So, you are asking for the cross sectional diameter of the reflected photons?
The wavefront yes. 

Well, considering that the beam of light is likely bigger than the moon by the time it reaches the moon, assuming the moon is the size and distance that you roundies claim, then the photons would would be bouncing off in a halo that would be somewhere around 270 degrees or so around the moon.  In other words, much of the light would be reflected not only into space, but in the wrong direction of Earth.  Soooo, I can not calculate that diameter for you off the top of my head, but it would be really, really big and very few photons would actually reflect back to the Earth.  I am wondering what your point is with your line of questioning.  Have you ever studied physics, especially Optics, which is the science of light?
The reflector would be a retroreflector to minimize reflections in the wrong direction. But anyways yes, only a few photons make it back to the detector. Now maybe go back to my original post and see what I was responding to. I bet you can figure out what I am getting at real quick.

Are you claiming that the entire moon is a retroreflector?  Your original post was asking the size of a wave, or did you forget that?  You are really failing tonight.  Perhaps lay off the Night Train when you are having an internet discussion? 
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2016, 08:03:39 PM »
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 07:49:39 PM


Are you claiming that the entire moon is a retroreflector? 
Stop jumping to the stupidest conclusion you can come up with. Nowhere did I claim the moon was the whole reflector. I said the signals hit a retroreflector, which they do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
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Your original post was asking the size of a wave, or did you forget that?  You are really failing tonight.  Perhaps lay off the Night Train when you are having an internet discussion?
No I did not forget anything. You just have no reading comprehension. Go wave your GED around somewhere else. This conversation is over your head.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2016, 08:38:45 PM »
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Are you claiming that the entire moon is a retroreflector? 
Stop jumping to the stupidest conclusion you can come up with. Nowhere did I claim the moon was the whole reflector. I said the signals hit a retroreflector, which they do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
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Your original post was asking the size of a wave, or did you forget that?  You are really failing tonight.  Perhaps lay off the Night Train when you are having an internet discussion?
No I did not forget anything. You just have no reading comprehension. Go wave your GED around somewhere else. This conversation is over your head.

lol, pretty much all of the laser's photons are shot into space, but your point was.........??????

Or, did you think that all of the photons where reflected off of the "moon reflectors" and back to Earth?  lol.  You fail over and over.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2016, 09:00:32 PM »
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Quote from: Dog on January 30, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: jroa on January 30, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
People go to jail for shining lasers into the sky.  Are you trying to get people arrested by suggesting this?   :(

People look like idiots for suggesting civilians perform these experiments. Are you trying to look like an idiot? :(

You make it sound like I was the idiot who suggested people should shine lasers into the sky.  Do I need to post links and quotes, or are you going to admit that your statement was was wrong and a biased attack against me for simply not believing the way you do?

Stop pulling a jroa and try to stay on topic for once. Just because I called you out on your nonsense doesn't mean you need to act like a victim again.

No one suggested "people" should shine lasers into the sky. You know we're discussing the fact that there are actual retro-reflectors on the moon we can shine lasers at and get reflections from. You know this is physical evidence that man has been to the moon.

Now are you going to answer to this physical evidence, or just ban me because you feel like it again?
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2016, 09:07:42 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on January 30, 2016, 04:14:44 PM
What's the size of the wave when it returns to earth?

It does seem obvious that Sokarul is questioning "beam width"!

It was 6.5 km wide at the moon.  I don't know, but the reflected beam would expect be similar back on earth.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
At the Moon's surface, the beam is about 6.5 kilometers wide[6] and scientists liken the task of aiming the beam to using a rifle to hit a moving dime 3 kilometers away. The reflected light is too weak to be seen with the human eye: out of 1017 photons aimed at the reflector, only one will be received back on Earth every few seconds, even under good conditions. They can be identified as originating from the laser because the laser is highly monochromatic.
And yes, they did have to allow for the motion of the earth and the moon!
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In actuality, the round-trip time of about 2.5 seconds is affected by the relative motion of Earth and the Moon, Earth's rotation.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2016, 07:08:45 PM »
If gravity did not exist, and the earth was flat, because the earth would accelerate up, any object regardless of weight, would "fall" at the same size. Because of air resistance, it has to push air and it needs more weight for that. Therefore we have gravity out of the way. It's real.

Hey @TheEngineer, come in and object!
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2016, 08:14:16 PM »
Ok.  I object.  Gravitation or acceleration, it works the same way. 
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2016, 05:29:58 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on February 01, 2016, 08:14:16 PM
Ok.  I object.  Gravitation or acceleration, it works the same way.

How does UA explain geographical gravitational variations.     Gravimetric surveys are a popular  method for mineral prospecting and are routinely used to map geological features.




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Re: If gravity doesn't exist, then why do heavier things fall faster?
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2016, 05:51:07 AM »
Quote from: Rayzor on February 04, 2016, 05:29:58 AM
Gravimetric surveys are a popular  method for mineral prospecting and are routinely used to map geological features.

Water dowsing is a popular method for finding water and is routinely used to find the best place to dig a well.  :-\
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