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Quote from: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tnD6850LMLandingGearSubsytem.pdf

Thermal Insulation

    Landing-gear thermal-insulation design is based on several requirements.
Landing-gear temperatures must be maintained at or below design levels to ensure pos-
itive structural margins of safety and proper mechanical operation during deployment
and landing. Temperature control of the honeycomb energy absorbers within specified
limits is necessary to ensure that the crush loads will be within proper levels.

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Quote from: markjo on February 24, 2016, 05:57:05 PM

Quote from: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tnD6850LMLandingGearSubsytem.pdf

Thermal Insulation

    Landing-gear thermal-insulation design is based on several requirements.
Landing-gear temperatures must be maintained at or below design levels to ensure pos-
itive structural margins of safety and proper mechanical operation during deployment
and landing. Temperature control of the honeycomb energy absorbers within specified
limits is necessary to ensure that the crush loads will be within proper levels.

Oh it's from a NASA.gov pdf it must be true lol!

But why didn't they just insulate the shock absorbers?

And why did Apollo 11 need no insulation at all?

FAO running dancing rayzor

Oh Jesus *face palm*,
ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha.....

You got a direct response,,
Seems I will have to repeat myself veeeery slowly.

sound of hammering clearly audible because why ?
You claim the sound is travelling through his hand (clearly exclaimed in your post)

My response was how is sound travelling without direct contact on the Apollo excursions ?
clattering moon buggy compartment lids was one example,
Remember, you decided reptilian moon bases and a heavily choreographed dance number was the best response.

Added to this I also asked why sound does not travel through the hands of ISS manual labourers working in the vacuum,
(the post you are ignoring whilst claiming you answered it a week ago  )

And how sound does not propagate through solid hand held tools or the solid ISS whilst the observer is in the vacuum,
remember,
you gave examples of the observer being inside the air filled ISS,
Which is obviously unrelated to the subject.

Then you started your trip down memory lane pretending you elaborated on this obvious problem a week ago.

Let's try again....
I'm afraid your rather nasty insults, expletives, dance numbers and long distance running is only damaging your extremely tenuous logic and understanding.

(btw plagiarising phrases to repeat back to the original poster and the constant  repetition makes you sound like a bot,
let me guess, "beep, does not compute, beep"   )

Anyway, response please.

Quote from: feuk on February 24, 2016, 02:30:36 AM

Any chance of a response to the below ?
Or is more trolling,
more running,
more dancing your preferred debating style ?

Quote from: feuk on February 23, 2016, 06:41:14 AM

back for more my running dancing friend ?
Still proving you are full of it ?
Still struggling with the very basic science which you claim needs to be "dumbed down" for me ? 

Let me highlight your most obvious comprehension fails, and why your claims of understanding your own argument are hilarious internet slap stick   

firstly you claimed to be proving sound travels through the vacuum of space with your first link,
Which states
" Finally, inside the ISS there indeed is a very high level of noise pollution."
The word "inside" is what you appear to be misunderstanding.
unless you are claiming that it's a vacuum "inside" the ISS then that's an epic face plant.

Secondly you link to an article I have being quoting for over a week 
Which states,
" As an EVA is in progress, you can hear the spacewalkers bumping and clanging along as your crewmates translate on the exterior of your module."
The word you are misunderstanding here is "exterior", he is describing sound from inside the ISS,
unless you are claiming that it's a vacuum "inside" the ISS.

EVEN YOUR LINK (that I posted a week ago) DEBUNKS YOUR OWN ARGUMENT,
 
" It is true, however, that sound cannot travel in a vacuum so you do not hear things outside.  When you drive a bolt or tap a piece of equipment with a tool, you don't hear a thing.  "

OUTSIDE THE ISS running dancing rayzor, OUTSIDE IN THE VACUUM OF SPACE.

your (originally mine) link continues to demolish your false sense of understanding with,
" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."

I think the word you are struggling with here is "silent", even when the observer is inside the ISS.

there we have it,
Your inflated self image is in fact delusional idiocy,

That might sound harsh but I can only go on what you are posting,
Which clearly shows you are attempting to prove sound travels in a vacuum by quoting links that show sound travels through air.
sounds like internet slap stick idiocy to me.

I think this is where you claim to be "dumbing down" your misunderstanding of basic science and obvious struggles with the English language.

my spidey sense tells me you will begin an elaborate dance routine before running away shouting infantile insults over your shoulder,

all I ask is that you actually read and understand the links you are quoting, analyse the data and form a coherent factual explanation,
Please
 

Rabinoz - first point fail. The VAB was discovered in 1958 by a guy standing on earth releasing balloons, no space probes needed.
his radiation readings in LEO would get waves of 0, until he discovered the readings were off the chart,
Interesting, no ?

The landing struts are the shock absorbers

I BET YOU £1000 PL AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT IPs, A MOD CAN CHECK AND THE MONEY TRANSFER CAN HAPPEN VIA PAYPAL.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE WAGER ?
OR RUN AWAY ?

Quote from: feuk on February 25, 2016, 02:32:45 AM

I BET YOU £1000 PL AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT IPs, A MOD CAN CHECK AND THE MONEY TRANSFER CAN HAPPEN VIA PAYPAL.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE WAGER ?
OR RUN AWAY ?

What do you think different IP addresses would prove?   I know a moron when I see one.   RIght now I see two,  Maybe when GGGGGai RRRedonda comes back I'll see three.

Selective quoting again my running dancing friend ?

" Running dancing rayzor - still refusing to respond to my post challenging his scientific and logic fails. Why ? Oh yeah, he can't be bothered  .
But can be bothered to post sock puppet slurs that he himself claims is a sign of mental illness.
I BET YOU £1000 PL AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT IPs, A MOD CAN CHECK AND THE MONEY TRANSFER CAN HAPPEN VIA PAYPAL.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE WAGER ?
OR RUN AWAY ?
I think we already know the answer  "

DO YOU ACCEPT THE WAGER ?
Or don't you have the grapes to actually back up your own statements ?
I think this is where you run away 

Oh yeah, still waiting for you to straighten out your "sound in a vacuum" face plant,
But you claim you can't be bothered 

that's pretty thin gruel my running dancing friend,
Wager ? Yes/no (of course you will run away again)
response to your scientific face plant ? Yes/no. (of course you will run away)

The book is closed on whether you run away or not.

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:14:09 AM

Quote from: feuk on February 25, 2016, 02:32:45 AM

I BET YOU £1000 PL AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT IPs, A MOD CAN CHECK AND THE MONEY TRANSFER CAN HAPPEN VIA PAYPAL.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE WAGER ?
OR RUN AWAY ?

What do you think different IP addresses would prove?   I know a moron when I see one.   RIght now I see two,  Maybe when GGGGGai RRRedonda comes back I'll see three.

BOTTLED IT.

STILL RUNNING.

Is running rayzor still running ?

Quote from: feuk on February 24, 2016, 05:35:28 AM

FAO running dancing rayzor

Oh Jesus *face palm*,
ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha.....

You got a direct response,,
Seems I will have to repeat myself veeeery slowly.

sound of hammering clearly audible because why ?
You claim the sound is travelling through his hand (clearly exclaimed in your post)

My response was how is sound travelling without direct contact on the Apollo excursions ?
clattering moon buggy compartment lids was one example,
Remember, you decided reptilian moon bases and a heavily choreographed dance number was the best response.

Added to this I also asked why sound does not travel through the hands of ISS manual labourers working in the vacuum,
(the post you are ignoring whilst claiming you answered it a week ago  )

And how sound does not propagate through solid hand held tools or the solid ISS whilst the observer is in the vacuum,
remember,
you gave examples of the observer being inside the air filled ISS,
Which is obviously unrelated to the subject.

Then you started your trip down memory lane pretending you elaborated on this obvious problem a week ago.

Let's try again....
I'm afraid your rather nasty insults, expletives, dance numbers and long distance running is only damaging your extremely tenuous logic and understanding.

(btw plagiarising phrases to repeat back to the original poster and the constant  repetition makes you sound like a bot,
let me guess, "beep, does not compute, beep"   )

Anyway, response please.

Quote from: feuk on February 24, 2016, 02:30:36 AM

Any chance of a response to the below ?
Or is more trolling,
more running,
more dancing your preferred debating style ?

Quote from: feuk on February 23, 2016, 06:41:14 AM

back for more my running dancing friend ?
Still proving you are full of it ?
Still struggling with the very basic science which you claim needs to be "dumbed down" for me ? 

Let me highlight your most obvious comprehension fails, and why your claims of understanding your own argument are hilarious internet slap stick   

firstly you claimed to be proving sound travels through the vacuum of space with your first link,
Which states
" Finally, inside the ISS there indeed is a very high level of noise pollution."
The word "inside" is what you appear to be misunderstanding.
unless you are claiming that it's a vacuum "inside" the ISS then that's an epic face plant.

Secondly you link to an article I have being quoting for over a week 
Which states,
" As an EVA is in progress, you can hear the spacewalkers bumping and clanging along as your crewmates translate on the exterior of your module."
The word you are misunderstanding here is "exterior", he is describing sound from inside the ISS,
unless you are claiming that it's a vacuum "inside" the ISS.

EVEN YOUR LINK (that I posted a week ago) DEBUNKS YOUR OWN ARGUMENT,
 
" It is true, however, that sound cannot travel in a vacuum so you do not hear things outside.  When you drive a bolt or tap a piece of equipment with a tool, you don't hear a thing.  "

OUTSIDE THE ISS running dancing rayzor, OUTSIDE IN THE VACUUM OF SPACE.

your (originally mine) link continues to demolish your false sense of understanding with,
" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."

I think the word you are struggling with here is "silent", even when the observer is inside the ISS.

there we have it,
Your inflated self image is in fact delusional idiocy,

That might sound harsh but I can only go on what you are posting,
Which clearly shows you are attempting to prove sound travels in a vacuum by quoting links that show sound travels through air.
sounds like internet slap stick idiocy to me.

I think this is where you claim to be "dumbing down" your misunderstanding of basic science and obvious struggles with the English language.

my spidey sense tells me you will begin an elaborate dance routine before running away shouting infantile insults over your shoulder,

all I ask is that you actually read and understand the links you are quoting, analyse the data and form a coherent factual explanation,
Please
 

*sigh*

Quote from: feuk on February 25, 2016, 02:36:02 AM

Is running rayzor still running ?

Quote from: feuk on February 24, 2016, 05:35:28 AM

FAO running dancing rayzor

Oh Jesus *face palm*,
ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha.....

You got a direct response,,
Seems I will have to repeat myself veeeery slowly.

sound of hammering clearly audible because why ?
You claim the sound is travelling through his hand (clearly exclaimed in your post)

My response was how is sound travelling without direct contact on the Apollo excursions ?
clattering moon buggy compartment lids was one example,
Remember, you decided reptilian moon bases and a heavily choreographed dance number was the best response.

Added to this I also asked why sound does not travel through the hands of ISS manual labourers working in the vacuum,
(the post you are ignoring whilst claiming you answered it a week ago  )

And how sound does not propagate through solid hand held tools or the solid ISS whilst the observer is in the vacuum,
remember,
you gave examples of the observer being inside the air filled ISS,
Which is obviously unrelated to the subject.

Then you started your trip down memory lane pretending you elaborated on this obvious problem a week ago.

Let's try again....
I'm afraid your rather nasty insults, expletives, dance numbers and long distance running is only damaging your extremely tenuous logic and understanding.

(btw plagiarising phrases to repeat back to the original poster and the constant  repetition makes you sound like a bot,
let me guess, "beep, does not compute, beep"   )

Anyway, response please.

Quote from: feuk on February 24, 2016, 02:30:36 AM

Any chance of a response to the below ?
Or is more trolling,
more running,
more dancing your preferred debating style ?

Quote from: feuk on February 23, 2016, 06:41:14 AM

back for more my running dancing friend ?
Still proving you are full of it ?
Still struggling with the very basic science which you claim needs to be "dumbed down" for me ? 

Let me highlight your most obvious comprehension fails, and why your claims of understanding your own argument are hilarious internet slap stick   

firstly you claimed to be proving sound travels through the vacuum of space with your first link,
Which states
" Finally, inside the ISS there indeed is a very high level of noise pollution."
The word "inside" is what you appear to be misunderstanding.
unless you are claiming that it's a vacuum "inside" the ISS then that's an epic face plant.

Secondly you link to an article I have being quoting for over a week 
Which states,
" As an EVA is in progress, you can hear the spacewalkers bumping and clanging along as your crewmates translate on the exterior of your module."
The word you are misunderstanding here is "exterior", he is describing sound from inside the ISS,
unless you are claiming that it's a vacuum "inside" the ISS.

EVEN YOUR LINK (that I posted a week ago) DEBUNKS YOUR OWN ARGUMENT,
 
" It is true, however, that sound cannot travel in a vacuum so you do not hear things outside.  When you drive a bolt or tap a piece of equipment with a tool, you don't hear a thing.  "

OUTSIDE THE ISS running dancing rayzor, OUTSIDE IN THE VACUUM OF SPACE.

your (originally mine) link continues to demolish your false sense of understanding with,
" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."

I think the word you are struggling with here is "silent", even when the observer is inside the ISS.

there we have it,
Your inflated self image is in fact delusional idiocy,

That might sound harsh but I can only go on what you are posting,
Which clearly shows you are attempting to prove sound travels in a vacuum by quoting links that show sound travels through air.
sounds like internet slap stick idiocy to me.

I think this is where you claim to be "dumbing down" your misunderstanding of basic science and obvious struggles with the English language.

my spidey sense tells me you will begin an elaborate dance routine before running away shouting infantile insults over your shoulder,

all I ask is that you actually read and understand the links you are quoting, analyse the data and form a coherent factual explanation,
Please
 

Quote from: feuk on February 25, 2016, 03:16:42 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:14:09 AM

Quote from: feuk on February 25, 2016, 02:32:45 AM

I BET YOU £1000 PL AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT IPs, A MOD CAN CHECK AND THE MONEY TRANSFER CAN HAPPEN VIA PAYPAL.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE WAGER ?
OR RUN AWAY ?

What do you think different IP addresses would prove?   I know a moron when I see one.   RIght now I see two,  Maybe when GGGGGai RRRedonda comes back I'll see three.

BOTTLED IT.

STILL RUNNING.

Do you see the logical disconnect in your response?    Seriously,  you need to get help.
 
     
   

^Genuinely psychopathic behaviour.

Got a fun thread for you to read feuk; I'll go bump it: Rayzor's adventures at CERN...

LULZ!

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:19:28 AM

Quote from: feuk on February 25, 2016, 03:16:42 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:14:09 AM

Quote from: feuk on February 25, 2016, 02:32:45 AM

I BET YOU £1000 PL AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT IPs, A MOD CAN CHECK AND THE MONEY TRANSFER CAN HAPPEN VIA PAYPAL.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE WAGER ?
OR RUN AWAY ?

What do you think different IP addresses would prove?   I know a moron when I see one.   RIght now I see two,  Maybe when GGGGGai RRRedonda comes back I'll see three.

BOTTLED IT.

STILL RUNNING.

Do you see the logical disconnect in your response?    Seriously,  you need to get help.
 
     
   

all I see is a bottler who shits himself when challenged.
Such a big man when giving it the biggun,
gets challenged,
Soils his adult nappy,
and runs away.

wimp 

Hmmmm.   Fondue on the lake,  by the fountain,  I can't wait.   Plus a few good German Beers.

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:29:37 AM

Hmmmm.   Fondue on the lake,  by the fountain,  I can't wait.   Plus a few good German Beers.

The fountain you said was turned off?

LOL!!!

You forgot what you wrote already you dick.

I remember making you look like a fool,  when I proved that it wasn't turned on.

Hmmmm.   Fondue on the lake,  by the fountain,  I can't wait.

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:43:28 AM

I remember making you look like a fool,  when I proved that it wasn't turned on.

LOL!!!

Why'd you write this just now then?

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:29:37 AM

Hmmmm.   Fondue on the lake,  by the fountain,  I can't wait.

LMAO!!!

And you didn't 'prove it was turned off' because you never said what day you went.

That's why you're trying to talk about it on THIS thread rather than the one you actually said it on...

Jesus, what a loser you are.

Anyhoo; your humiliation is there for all to see.

I'll stop derailing feuk's thread now...

You won't.

Because you're a psychopathic liar.

As anyone who reads your little Swiss Adventure thread will quickly realise...

Toodle-pip, Psycho!

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:43:28 AM

I remember making you look like a fool,  when I proved that it wasn't turned on.

LOL!!!

Why'd you write this just now then?

Quote from: Rayzor on February 25, 2016, 03:29:37 AM

Hmmmm.   Fondue on the lake,  by the fountain,  I can't wait.

This is so funny! We have a bunch of kiddies arguing about what this should look like, what this should sound like, there should be a camera here, a shadow there, a tyre track behind/ahead of a wheel etc.

Then arguing about whether the astronauts and/or electronics should have been zapped in the Van Allen Belts or fried in the thermosphere (or is it thermoplane - don't think that has come up here yet).

But none of you (including myself) are forensic photo experts or experts in any of these topics (sorry, excepting Feuk - he knows everything!).

One thing that has struck me is that the Flat Earth supporters seem to deny even the existence of space, let alone satellites and space missions or any kind. Yet we have them arguing about:

• The Van Allen Belts - how did we learn the details of these without space probes.
  
  
• The Chinese can find no evidence of Apollo missions on the moon[nb]Sounds like Papa Legba not seeing the ISS, by looking in the wrong place at the wrong time!
  [/nb] (as if they would want to). To do that they had to have a rover on the moon.
  
  
• And we have that expert mechanical engineer, Herr Dr Professor Yendor, Muckenikal, arguing that the ball joint on the lander is not strong enough in http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65666.msg1756636#msg1756636. Come off it! In the right material that could handle many times the landers weight (on earth or the moon). If NASA had only known Herr Dr Professor Yendor, Muckenikal then he would have made it strong enough to handle the weight of 7.95 Blue Whales!
  
  
• Oh, I don't believe it! Then Herr Dr Professor Yendor questions the detail in the design of the lander footpads. Of course he would think that if it breaks, you just pop of to the local Lunar Module Repair Station and pick up a spare! Of course it had to be specified in fine detail!
  
  
• Then that joke of an aerospace metalurgist raves on:
  
  Quote from: Herr Dr Professor Papa Legba

  Anyhoo; aluminium melts at 600C & fails structurally in aerospace applications at 350C max.
  The SR-71 had to be made of titanium (melting point 1700C) to withstand the Aerodynamic Heating of 600+C caused by going at only 2,200+mph. Yet thin aluminium sheeting was enough for the 24,500mph Saturn V

  Somehow he claims to know more about space travel, yet doesn't believe rockets work!
  

I give up trying to follow all these high chair experts pronouncing how they would or would not have done something.
The whole thread is just joke!

^^^^^says the man who has literally made up the worst model ever for the structure of matter.

Just what "in your tiny mind"  constitutes "running away",  I'm still here, and you still look like a plonker.

Quote from: Mainframes on February 25, 2016, 04:55:43 AM

^^^^^says the man who has literally made up the worst model ever for the structure of matter.

It's only the worst model to you because you've been brainwashed into accepting a mainstream tailor made model. That's your prerogative, by the way but you are only clued up on parroting some of it rather than  actually understanding it.