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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #360 on: February 16, 2016, 04:27:31 AM »
Obviously rayzor has ditched his homework on researching proven and admitted conspiracies,
and has also ditched his psychology homework,
No matter the thread still reads well.

Now onto moon golfing.
Not surprising the moon golfing clip completely passes over the heads of the usual suspects,
The regolith and ball are obviously not acting in an environment allegedly with only 18% of earth gravity (as we are told),

But it's that lovely sound all golfers love,
the smack you hear when you catch the ball just right.
shots 1 and 3 are all regolith,
at 52 seconds on rayzors "compelling evidence" we can clearly hear the ball being caught just right,

The player even exclaims how he caught it,

of course sounds travelling through the vacuum of space in the Apollo movies are very common,
we can hear hammering, banging, crashing and even foot shuffling.

NASA used to tell kids the sound travelled up the suit much like how a "drum skin" acts,
and was recorded because the sound vibrated through the air filled suit.

The trouble with this is that sounds are recorded with no suit contact (see the clattering lids on moon buggy compartments), no physical contact yet sound recorded travelling in a vacuum.

But more than that the magical sound of space labour has now become redundant on the ISS,
we now don't hear a peep, and the labourers are on record as describing the complete silence when on a labour intensive walk.

so, my question what is the current stance on sound travelling in an alleged vacuum ?
where does this leave the Apollo movies ?

Clear case of seeing and hearing only what you want to see and hear,  the microphone was in the helmet and would pick up all the sounds that could transmit vibration to the suit.  That would include the golf club.   You'll have to more specific about what you think is wrong the behaviour of the ball and regolith,  I see nothing wrong.

As for the psychology of conspiracy believers,  you should do your own research,  and see if you fit the profile,  don't bother to let me know the result,  I already have it.

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #361 on: February 16, 2016, 04:34:25 AM »
Your pre prepared rebuttal ^ has already being addressed and debunked,

Have another go  ;D
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #362 on: February 16, 2016, 04:46:46 AM »
Your pre prepared rebuttal ^ has already being addressed and debunked,

Have another go  ;D

Sound travels through solid materials.  No additional debunking needed,  unless you dispute that fact.

Google tells me, that others have already debunked this as well.  http://blog.moonzoo.org/2011/07/18/sounds-on-the-moon/
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #363 on: February 16, 2016, 04:49:12 AM »
Your pre prepared rebuttal ^ has already being addressed and debunked,

Have another go  ;D

Sound travels through solid materials.  No additional debunking needed,  unless you dispute that fact.
If sound travelled into those microphones like you say they do,  then there would be no talking whilst moving, because the interference would be horrific.
The desperation by you people, reeks.

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #364 on: February 16, 2016, 04:59:46 AM »
Your pre prepared rebuttal ^ has already being addressed and debunked,

Have another go  ;D

Sound travels through solid materials.  No additional debunking needed,  unless you dispute that fact.
If sound travelled into those microphones like you say they do,  then there would be no talking whilst moving, because the interference would be horrific.
The desperation by you people, reeks.

Not that much different to you talking on your phone while walking down the street.   The microphone is close to the mouth,  not on the bottom of your shoes.
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #365 on: February 16, 2016, 05:35:58 AM »
Your pre prepared rebuttal ^ has already being addressed and debunked,

Have another go  ;D

Sound travels through solid materials.  No additional debunking needed,  unless you dispute that fact.

Google tells me, that others have already debunked this as well.  http://blog.moonzoo.org/2011/07/18/sounds-on-the-moon/

"solid materials"  :D

Let me repeat myself as you appear to have a selective memory

" of course sounds travelling through the vacuum of space in the Apollo movies are very common,
we can hear hammering, banging, crashing and even foot shuffling.

NASA used to tell kids the sound travelled up the suit much like how a "drum skin" acts,
and was recorded because the sound vibrated through the air filled suit.

The trouble with this is that sounds are recorded with no suit contact (see the clattering lids on moon buggy compartments), no physical contact yet sound recorded travelling in a vacuum."

please continue  ;D
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #366 on: February 16, 2016, 05:38:39 AM »

The trouble with this is that sounds are recorded with no suit contact (see the clattering lids on moon buggy compartments), no physical contact yet sound recorded travelling in a vacuum."

please continue  ;D

What were they standing on?

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #367 on: February 16, 2016, 05:47:37 AM »

What were they standing on?
A sound stage ?  :D ;D

Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed insulated boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?

Desperate stuff mate,
and I have never heard this rather outrageous stretch of reasoning,
did you just make that up on the spot ?
I think a citation is needed.

Thanks in advance  :D
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #368 on: February 16, 2016, 05:50:54 AM »

What were they standing on?
A sound stage ?  :D ;D

Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?

Desperate stuff mate,
and I have never heard this rather outrageous stretch of reasoning,
did you just make that up on the spot ?
I think a citation is needed.

Thanks in advance  :D

"I think a citation is needed."   for what?

Are you seriously suggesting sound doesn't travel through solid materials?    Explain why you think that is outrageous?
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #369 on: February 16, 2016, 05:57:52 AM »
" Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed insulated boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?"
 :D :D :D :D    ;D

just making stuff up is not cool rayzor.

Citation that anyone agrees with your rather silly claim.

Thanks in advance  ;D
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #370 on: February 16, 2016, 05:59:12 AM »

What were they standing on?
A sound stage ?  :D ;D

Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?

Desperate stuff mate,
and I have never heard this rather outrageous stretch of reasoning,
did you just make that up on the spot ?
I think a citation is needed.

Thanks in advance  :D

"I think a citation is needed."   for what?

Are you seriously suggesting sound doesn't travel through solid materials?    Explain why you think that is outrageous?
Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed insulated boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?

Dare you answer the above?

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #371 on: February 16, 2016, 06:02:58 AM »
" Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed insulated boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?"
 :D :D :D :D    ;D

just making stuff up is not cool rayzor.

Citation that anyone agrees with your rather silly claim.

Thanks in advance  ;D

Did you miss the high school physics class on sound?   Because you appear to be ignorant of the way sound propagates.   

I could refer you to re-reading "Dunning Kruger"  for exactly why you appear to not understand.



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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #372 on: February 16, 2016, 06:04:30 AM »

What were they standing on?
A sound stage ?  :D ;D

Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?

Desperate stuff mate,
and I have never heard this rather outrageous stretch of reasoning,
did you just make that up on the spot ?
I think a citation is needed.

Thanks in advance  :D

"I think a citation is needed."   for what?

Are you seriously suggesting sound doesn't travel through solid materials?    Explain why you think that is outrageous?
Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed insulated boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?

Dare you answer the above?

I just did,  twice.   Sound travels through solid materials,  if you disagree explain why you think that's not true.
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #373 on: February 16, 2016, 06:05:25 AM »
" Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed insulated boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?"
 :D :D :D :D    ;D

just making stuff up is not cool rayzor.

Citation that anyone agrees with your rather silly claim.

Thanks in advance  ;D

Did you miss the high school physics class on sound?   Because you appear to be ignorant of the way sound propagates.   

I could refer you to re-reading "Dunning Kruger"  for exactly why you appear to not understand.
Your twin, ausGeoff used to do exactly the same thing when he had a sweat on when cornered.

Dunning Kruger, indeed. ;D

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #374 on: February 16, 2016, 06:08:03 AM »
" Seriously are you suggesting a clattering compartment lid on the moon  buggy vibrated through the buggy, down out through the mesh tyres, into the lunar surface, up through the multi layered honey combed insulated boot soles, up through the suit and is recorded ?"
 :D :D :D :D    ;D

just making stuff up is not cool rayzor.

Citation that anyone agrees with your rather silly claim.

Thanks in advance  ;D

Did you miss the high school physics class on sound?   Because you appear to be ignorant of the way sound propagates.   

I could refer you to re-reading "Dunning Kruger"  for exactly why you appear to not understand.
Your twin, ausGeoff used to do exactly the same thing when he had a sweat on when cornered.

Dunning Kruger, indeed. ;D

Smart guy that Geoff,  and  I notice you didn't answer,  but just side stepped.


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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #375 on: February 16, 2016, 06:15:28 AM »
Still waiting for a link or citation that backs up the nonsense you just made up on the spot  ;D


don't have a five page meltdown

Just stick on topic and back up your ridiculous claims.
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #376 on: February 16, 2016, 06:18:05 AM »
Still waiting for a link or citation that backs up the nonsense you just made up on the spot  ;D


don't have a five page meltdown

Just stick on topic and back up your ridiculous claims.

You seriously want me to prove to you that sound travels through solid materials?   


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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #377 on: February 16, 2016, 06:33:02 AM »
"the inner boot’s sole was constructed from a non-flammable elastomer and ‘honeycomb’ material..
The outer boot consisted of 12 layers of biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate (boPET) – a polyester film (commonly called Mylar) made from stretched polyethylene terephthalate (PET). This was used for its high tensile strength, chemical and dimensional stability, reflectivity, gas barrier and electrical insulation properties. This footwear also included nonwoven ‘Dacron’ PET product and a fibreglass/ polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) inner liner material."
 ;D

Lets get this right "homie",

You are claiming sound waves from a clattering compartment lid on the moon buggy travelled through the buggy,
travelled out through the mesh wheels,
then travelled through the lunar surface,
vibrated up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles,
Travelled up through the suit,
and can then be heard loudly and clearly in the Apollo recordings ?

ha ha ha ha ha ha  :D

What utter tosh,
Impressive innocent face though.


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"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #378 on: February 16, 2016, 06:40:07 AM »
"the inner boot’s sole was constructed from a non-flammable elastomer and ‘honeycomb’ material..
The outer boot consisted of 12 layers of biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate (boPET) – a polyester film (commonly called Mylar) made from stretched polyethylene terephthalate (PET). This was used for its high tensile strength, chemical and dimensional stability, reflectivity, gas barrier and electrical insulation properties. This footwear also included nonwoven ‘Dacron’ PET product and a fibreglass/ polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) inner liner material."
 ;D

Lets get this right "homie",

You are claiming sound waves from a clattering compartment lid on the moon buggy travelled through the buggy,
travelled out through the mesh wheels,
then travelled through the lunar surface,
vibrated up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles,
Travelled up through the suit,
and can then be heard loudly and clearly in the Apollo recordings ?

ha ha ha ha ha ha  :D

What utter tosh,
Impressive innocent face though.

Argument from your personal incredulity is not a valid argument.   Just because you are ignorant of the way sound propagates is not a valid reason to discount the evidence.

You'll have to do better than that.   


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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #379 on: February 16, 2016, 06:44:53 AM »
 ^ :D :D  :D :D :D  :D :D :D

 ;D

 8)

edit - any citations ? making stuff up out of desperation is not big or clever :D

Are you now reviewing your belief in the moon golfing excursion ?
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #380 on: February 16, 2016, 06:47:30 AM »
You are claiming sound waves from a clattering compartment lid on the moon buggy travelled through the buggy,
travelled out through the mesh wheels,
then travelled through the lunar surface,
vibrated up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles,
Travelled up through the suit,
and can then be heard loudly and clearly in the Apollo recordings ?
Are you suggesting that the astronaut's boots were the only part of the suit that was in physical contact with the rover?
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #381 on: February 16, 2016, 06:54:12 AM »
Post up the video with audio and lets have a look.

If you dare.
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #382 on: February 16, 2016, 06:57:06 AM »
^ :D :D  :D :D :D  :D :D :D

 ;D

 8)

edit - any citations ? making stuff up out of desperation is not big or clever :D

Are you now reviewing your belief in the moon golfing excursion ?

Funny, I was about to ask you the same question. 

And,  no, I'm not making it up,  sound really does travel through solid materials.   Your ignorance of basic physics is showing. 

Maybe you need better emoticons to re-inforce your arguments?    The smileys aren't doing you any favours.

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #383 on: February 16, 2016, 07:13:18 AM »
Post up the video with audio and lets have a look.

If you dare.

You are the one saying sounds shouldn't be heard,  so why don't you back up your argument with some evidence?   
Oh wait,  you don't have any evidence....  just your self imposed ignorance   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I can at least help you understand where you went wrong...

confirmation bias
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The tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories
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« Reply #384 on: February 16, 2016, 07:15:31 AM »
Blah, blah, lie, blah, lie, blah...

Jesus Christ are you STILL here?

Look at what you said about the amount of time you spend here 11 hours ago:

Maybe  10 minutes here and there

LOL!!!

10 minutes = 11 hours in Homie Rayzor's little La-La-Land...

What a muppet!
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #385 on: February 16, 2016, 07:17:12 AM »
Trololololololololllllollklkllkoshshsavsiikepjsyw.
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« Reply #386 on: February 16, 2016, 07:21:08 AM »
Look at what you said about the amount of time you spend here 11 hours ago:

I'm having a bit of fun destroying the delusions of some poor tinfoil conspiracy nutter,   who's too stupid to know how stupid he really is.  :)

What's your excuse,   did you ruin out of alts or something?
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #387 on: February 16, 2016, 07:30:18 AM »
It appears lil homie has now entered full blown meltdown phase.
Lets relive this earlier post as supporting evidence against lil homies amazing magical mental gymnastic plea.

Please note the alleged structure of the boots that the sound waves, after travelling through the buggy, passed through on it's journey to recorded history.
"solid" as lil homie claims ?

"the inner boot’s sole was constructed from a non-flammable elastomer and ‘honeycomb’ material..
The outer boot consisted of 12 layers of biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate (boPET) – a polyester film (commonly called Mylar) made from stretched polyethylene terephthalate (PET). This was used for its high tensile strength, chemical and dimensional stability, reflectivity, gas barrier and electrical insulation properties. This footwear also included nonwoven ‘Dacron’ PET product and a fibreglass/ polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) inner liner material."
 ;D

Lets get this right "homie",

You are claiming sound waves from a clattering compartment lid on the moon buggy travelled through the buggy,
travelled out through the mesh wheels,
then travelled through the lunar surface,
vibrated up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles,
Travelled up through the suit,
and can then be heard loudly and clearly in the Apollo recordings ?

ha ha ha ha ha ha  :D

What utter tosh,
Impressive innocent face though.
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #388 on: February 16, 2016, 07:35:15 AM »
You are claiming sound waves from a clattering compartment lid on the moon buggy travelled through the buggy,
travelled out through the mesh wheels,
then travelled through the lunar surface,
vibrated up through the multi layered honey combed boot soles,
Travelled up through the suit,
and can then be heard loudly and clearly in the Apollo recordings ?

I'm pretty sure I heard something,  are you saying that you didn't hear it?   
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« Reply #389 on: February 16, 2016, 07:37:19 AM »
delusions... tinfoil... conspiracy... nutter...   stupid...

Nearly 12 hours in & you're still posting the same tired old shite...

You claimed to be at CERN last year yet here you are now, chained to a Flat Earth forum.

Poor, pathetic little you!

Bet you feel tougher now a few other disinfo-clowns are helping you though?

You were nearly in tears earlier when you were on your own.

That's because psychopaths are all cowards & bullies...

No Morals, you see.

Toodle-pip, Lying Psychopathic Bully!
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