Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #390 on: April 27, 2016, 02:39:53 AM »
Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation.

Exactly.

And neither Observation nor Experiment can confirm the existence of flying trashcans 20,000 miles up in the sky.

It can, however, confirm the existence of airplanes, chemtrails & cell-phone towers.

Just as it can confirm that all the 'satellite TV' antennas near me point directly at a big cell tower.

A point that you ignored...

Again.

Instead, you pulled the usual shill-trick of exhorting me to waste valuable time poring over fake data...

Ah; the old ones are the best, eh?

You are the shilliest link - Goodbye!
Other satellite dishes point at transmitters in space.  Look beyond your area.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #391 on: April 27, 2016, 04:01:18 AM »
Not looking at your garbage link.

Cos it won't prove satellites exist, it'll just prove a signal comes from a certain direction...

At best.

And, in the case of the 'satellite TV' dishes near me, that direction co-incides with a big cell-phone tower...

I'm looking at the goddamn thing right now.

See, THAT'S what I mean by genuine empirical evidence, inquisi-bot.

Now go fetch me a new set of laws of physics so I can believe in your flying shpayze-trashcans, or bug out, loser.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #392 on: April 27, 2016, 05:08:05 AM »
Not looking at your garbage link.

Cos it won't prove satellites exist, it'll just prove a signal comes from a certain direction...

At best.

And, in the case of the 'satellite TV' dishes near me, that direction co-incides with a big cell-phone tower...

I'm looking at the goddamn thing right now.

See, THAT'S what I mean by genuine empirical evidence, inquisi-bot.

Now go fetch me a new set of laws of physics so I can believe in your flying shpayze-trashcans, or bug out, loser.
If you do the maths on a particular satellite from several locations you will prove its location in space.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #393 on: April 27, 2016, 05:54:05 AM »
If I 'do the math' on all the 'satellite TV' dishes near me I'll prove the satellite's located on a big old celltower, not 'space'.

I keep on telling you this, yet you seem unable to process the data, inquisi-bot...

Are you autistic? Or even human?

And how's it going with that new set of laws of physics btw?

I'll be needing them if you expect me to believe in your flying trashcans over established & empirically observable technology...
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #394 on: April 27, 2016, 06:09:11 AM »
If I 'do the math' on all the 'satellite TV' dishes near me I'll prove the satellite's located on a big old celltower, not 'space'.

I keep on telling you this, yet you seem unable to process the data, inquisi-bot...

Are you autistic? Or even human?

And how's it going with that new set of laws of physics btw?

I'll be needing them if you expect me to believe in your flying trashcans over established & empirically observable technology...
What about dishes not near you?  The maths proves where the satellites are.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #395 on: April 27, 2016, 06:19:54 AM »
And, in the case of the 'satellite TV' dishes near me, that direction co-incides with a big cell-phone tower...

I'm looking at the goddamn thing right now.

See, THAT'S what I mean by genuine empirical evidence, inquisi-bot.
Have you analyzed the signals coming from that cell-phone tower to see if any of the frequencies match those used by satellite TV? 

Also, how did you verify that those dishes are actually pointing directly at the tower?  You do understand that satellite dishes must be aimed within one degree of the transmitter, don't you?

Now go fetch me a new set of laws of physics so I can believe in your flying shpayze-trashcans, or bug out, loser.
Newton's laws of motion aren't exactly new physics.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #396 on: April 27, 2016, 06:46:58 AM »
how did you verify that those dishes are actually pointing directly at the tower?

With my eyes you nutcase.

Or am I not allowed to look at things now?

I know you psychopathic thought-police would just LOVE that to be the case...

But sadly for you it isn't.

Newton's laws of motion aren't exactly new physics.

LOL!!!

Newton's laws of motion smash your 'shpayze-rokkits' to smithereens, shyster...

And so do the gas laws.

You know it as well as I do, which is why you had to get your pet fraud-mod tehEnjynner (who is now posting using the sock-ID 'ecthelion' btw, & what does THAT say about this corrupt shithole?) to lock all the threads I've kicked your sorry asses all over on this very subject.

Everyone knows this, so just give it up you sad old fraud.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #397 on: April 27, 2016, 06:58:53 AM »
how did you verify that those dishes are actually pointing directly at the tower?

With my eyes you nutcase.

Or am I not allowed to look at things now?
So you eyeballed all of those dishes to within one degree of the cell tower?

By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?

Parabolic satellite dish antenna

Satellite dishes are often shaped like portions of a paraboloid (a parabola rotated about its central axis) in order to focus transmission signals onto the pickup receiver, or feedhorn. Typically, the section of the paraboloid used is offset from the centre so that the feedhorn and its support do not unduly block signals to the reflecting dish.
Newton's laws of motion aren't exactly new physics.

LOL!!!

Newton's laws of motion smash your 'shpayze-rokkits' to smithereens, shyster...

And so do the gas laws.
Not if you know how to apply them properly.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #398 on: April 27, 2016, 07:03:50 AM »

Come on guys, cut Legba some slack....can't you see he is really TRYING here?? I for one am impressed with his effort.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #399 on: April 27, 2016, 07:16:50 AM »
By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?

LOL!!!

You've gone mental now.

Claiming you have a proper job & just post here for fun, then spending all day spamming increasingly desperate garbage...

Give it up.

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Not if you know how to apply them properly Lie like an ambulance-chasing lawyer.

Fixed your bullshit for you.

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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

Told you, freaks; everybody's onto your sock-puppet gaslighting & gang-stalking now...

It just doesn't work any more.

And, of course, you still haven't offered any genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist either...

Because there is none.

Toodle-pip, people who have jobs & degrees & everything but spend all day thought-policing a flat earth forum cos that's so likely oh yes it is!
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #400 on: April 27, 2016, 07:36:58 AM »
By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?

LOL!!!

You've gone mental now.

Claiming you have a proper job & just post here for fun, then spending all day spamming increasingly desperate garbage...
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #401 on: April 27, 2016, 07:50:53 AM »
By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?

LOL!!!

You've gone mental now.

Claiming you have a proper job & just post here for fun, then spending all day spamming increasingly desperate garbage...

Give it up.

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Not if you know how to apply them properly Lie like an ambulance-chasing lawyer.

Fixed your bullshit for you.

Quote from:  some random sock-puppet or other; markjo, rayzor; nobody cares any more...link=topic=65626.msg1776129#msg1776129 date=1461765830
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

Told you, freaks; everybody's onto your sock-puppet gaslighting & gang-stalking now...

It just doesn't work any more.

And, of course, you still haven't offered any genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist either...

Because there is none.

Toodle-pip, people who have jobs & degrees & everything but spend all day thought-policing a flat earth forum cos that's so likely oh yes it is!

Gee, Legba.  That extra chromosome must really be bringing you down

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If you're done being a bitch, you should look up Visual GPS, which can take NMEA data from a receiver and display your position and the position of satellites it's communicating with.  This data is verifiable to be coming from moving satellites, not fixed ground stations. 
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #402 on: April 27, 2016, 07:58:57 AM »
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...

No, I think that you thinking I don't understand how sat dishes work & can't see what a sat dish in my backyard is pointing at when the thing it's pointing at is only a few hundred yards away is garbage.

Plus, grow up & get a proper job.

This data is verifiable to be coming from moving satellites, not fixed ground stations.

Suuure it is...

I'd be more inclined to believe you if you added a rolly-eye emoji though; them things are mustard!
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #403 on: April 27, 2016, 08:07:52 AM »
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...

No, I think that you thinking I don't understand how sat dishes work & can't see what a sat dish in my backyard is pointing at when the thing it's pointing at is only a few hundred yards away is garbage.

Plus, grow up & get a proper job.

This data is verifiable to be coming from moving satellites, not fixed ground stations.

Suuure it is...

I'd be more inclined to believe you if you added a rolly-eye emoji though; them things are mustard!
It's not a sat dish unless it points at a satellite.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #404 on: April 27, 2016, 12:08:28 PM »
It's not a sat dish unless it points at a satellite.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #405 on: April 27, 2016, 02:39:24 PM »
It's not a sat dish unless it points at a satellite.

 ::)
Why does bad weather knock out satellite TV so easily?
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #406 on: April 27, 2016, 03:20:21 PM »
Cos rain gets in the satellites?

Or they're struck by lightning maybe?
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #407 on: April 27, 2016, 04:04:08 PM »
Cos rain gets in the satellites?

Or they're struck by lightning maybe?
I see you never watch TV on one.

It doesn't go out permanently. When heavy clouds show up the picture cuts in and out. Ground antenna based broadcast would not do this.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #408 on: April 27, 2016, 04:12:44 PM »
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...

No, I think that you thinking I don't understand how sat dishes work & can't see what a sat dish in my backyard is pointing at when the thing it's pointing at is only a few hundred yards away is garbage.
Seeing as you have so much trouble understanding simple things like how rocket engines work, can you really blame me for not believing that you would understand how an off axis sat dish works?

Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #409 on: April 27, 2016, 05:52:44 PM »
Cos rain gets in the satellites?

Or they're struck by lightning maybe?

They get a lot of lightning and rain up there in geostationary orbit do they?

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #410 on: April 27, 2016, 07:23:25 PM »
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #411 on: April 27, 2016, 11:12:38 PM »
Htrrrrrrrrr! Hlllrooooghhhhhhrrrrrrr!

No, you're still not making any sense. Now slow down, and use your words.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #412 on: April 27, 2016, 11:19:35 PM »
When heavy clouds show up the picture cuts in and out. Ground antenna based broadcast would not do this.

How old are you ffs?

It used to do it all the time when I was younger, pre-satellites.

Same goes for radio reception.

Worst. Strawman. Ever!

Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).

Directional 'scatter'?

Sounds kinda oxymoronic.

But as you are a repeatedly-proven liar, forum-manipulator & sock-puppeteer nobody will ever care what you think again.

You're lucky I even read your tortured drivel, frankly.

They get a lot of lightning and rain up there in geostationary orbit do they?

Inability to detect or understand humour is a major symptom of autism...

Hmm... 'symptom'; where have I seen that word recently?

Oh, look:

Pay attention to me! Make my 5000 posts in one year count! See me! Hug me! Someone please love me!
Settle down, Papa Yaakoff. It's going to be alright.

Seems 'Symptom' is yet another one showing symptoms of autism...

As well as being a rather obvious piss-poor gaslighting & psychopathic mirroring sock-puppet.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #413 on: April 28, 2016, 05:29:05 AM »
Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).

Directional 'scatter'?

Sounds kinda oxymoronic.
Umm, yeah.  Then again, you're the proponent of troposcatter, so you should know how it's used for point to point communication.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #414 on: April 28, 2016, 05:50:53 AM »
you're the proponent of troposcatter, so you should know how it's used for point to point communication.

What, the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation?

You're the one who seems to be jumping from point to point, without actually making any...

Now; genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites please!

Been a long wait for that...

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #415 on: April 28, 2016, 06:39:58 AM »
you're the proponent of troposcatter, so you should know how it's used for point to point communication.

What, the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation?
You're the expert on the subject, so you tell me.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #416 on: April 28, 2016, 06:45:05 AM »
'I know you are but what am I?'

Really, markjo?

LOL!!!

GTFO.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #417 on: April 28, 2016, 07:00:18 AM »
When heavy clouds show up the picture cuts in and out. Ground antenna based broadcast would not do this.

How old are you ffs?

It used to do it all the time when I was younger, pre-satellites.

Same goes for radio reception.

Worst. Strawman. Ever!

Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).

Directional 'scatter'?

Sounds kinda oxymoronic.

But as you are a repeatedly-proven liar, forum-manipulator & sock-puppeteer nobody will ever care what you think again.

You're lucky I even read your tortured drivel, frankly.

They get a lot of lightning and rain up there in geostationary orbit do they?

Inability to detect or understand humour is a major symptom of autism...

Hmm... 'symptom'; where have I seen that word recently?

Oh, look:

Pay attention to me! Make my 5000 posts in one year count! See me! Hug me! Someone please love me!
Settle down, Papa Yaakoff. It's going to be alright.

Seems 'Symptom' is yet another one showing symptoms of autism...

As well as being a rather obvious piss-poor gaslighting & psychopathic mirroring sock-puppet.

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Who is ffs?

Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.
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« Reply #418 on: April 28, 2016, 07:33:36 AM »
Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

*Yawn!*

First it was 'bad weather', now it's 'cloud cover', now the fact that you need to align a dish with a signal means satellites exist...

It's all done by bouncing radio waves around the sky one way or another; no need for magical flying trashcans 20,000 miles away in 'shpayze'.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.

I see now you can visualise objects that don't exist in your mind. Nobody cares.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #419 on: April 28, 2016, 07:37:03 AM »
Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

*Yawn!*

First it was 'bad weather', now it's 'cloud cover', now the fact that you need to align a dish with a signal means satellites exist...

It's all done by bouncing radio waves around the sky one way or another; no need for magical flying trashcans 20,000 miles away in 'shpayze'.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.

I see now you can visualise objects that don't exist in your mind. Nobody cares.
Yawn

So now it's back to bouncing waves...


Please learn what evidence is. It would really help.


The cloud cover is what causes the signal loss in bad weather.

Satellites don't require magic. Perhaps if you had a greater education level you could see this.
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