Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2016, 10:11:26 PM »
The idea that chemtrails are poisonous is fear-porn & part of the disinfo campaign surrounding them.

This is the only thread on the internet telling you anything close to the truth about them.

And I'm the only person contributing that truth.

Anyhoo; let's keep creating forum slides!

First, google Circular Error Probability (or Circular Error Probable; same thing).

Note how it relates to the accurate delivery of bombs etc...

Then read the below:

So...

CEP.

Grid chemtrails.

Drone testing areas.

GPS.

Alexander Seversky.

Put the pieces together yet?

Want another clue?

Ok; the V1 missile.

Big warhead, cheap as chips to produce & a bastard to intercept...

Not very accurate though.

How to improve that accuracy?

How to improve that guidance system?

Getting the picture yet, retards?

CEP...

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2016, 10:41:41 PM »
Except for the part where chemtrail effects as they are purported are not physically possible. I'll do some quick back-of-the-napkin calculations:

- Take into account the volume of the atmosphere over a given area, say 100 square km with a ceiling of 10 km (below cruising altitude). Not very much area, less than 1/10th of downtown New York City. At cruising speed, an airliner can cover that in about 30 seconds. Well it turns out to be 914,400,000,000 m3. Let that sink in. Almost a trillion cubic meters.

- Let's just assume an airline is okay totally wasting profits and efficiency by packing an aircraft with "chemicals" instead of cargo/passengers. A Boeing 777 freighter (a very large plane) can carry 653 m3 of cargo. For fun, we'll pack the wings with chemicals too (another 182 m3). So now we have a large airliner with 835 m3 of "chemicals", and no fuel.

- Now imagine that fuel-less freighter flying over that smallish area and dispersing all of it. All 853 m3 in 30 seconds. Should be pretty effective right? Well in this scenario, the density of chemicals in that section of atmosphere would be:

(853/914400)
0.0009 parts per million m3

or

((853/914400000000)x100)
0.00000009% of that 914400000000 m3

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I'll let you conclude for yourself.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #122 on: February 24, 2016, 02:18:36 AM »
Except for the part where chemtrail effects as they are purported are not physically possible.

They wouldn't do it if it did not work as intended.

Ergo your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.


They don't do it.   Chemtrails are an internet myth.

« Last Edit: February 24, 2016, 02:25:01 AM by Rayzor »
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #123 on: February 24, 2016, 02:23:02 AM »
LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

^Psychopathic Liar telling psychopathic Lies..

^For example, that we cannot see things that are clearly there.

^Also very butthurt I exposed his ICfreely character on Cluesforum as a shill.

^lol.

Except for the part where chemtrail effects as they are purported are not physically possible.

They wouldn't do it if it did not work as intended.

Ergo your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

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I'll let you conclude for yourself.

Just did.

Your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

Especially as they imply chemtrails are intended to saturate a large volume of atmosphere, rather than spread as a very thin layer at a specific altitude.

Doubly worthless then...

You also imply it is only airlines doing the spraying, whereas I have observed unmarked cargo planes & possibly even drones doing so.

These are most likely military aircraft.

Trebly worthless now...

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #124 on: February 24, 2016, 02:30:28 AM »
^Also very butthurt I exposed his ICfreely character on Cluesforum as a shill.

The jokes on you, I'm not on cluesforum.   Another monster fail! LOL!

Also, what's with accusing everyone of having "Daddy Issues"   are you doing some kind of transference thing.  Where you project your issues onto others?

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #125 on: February 24, 2016, 02:52:31 AM »
^Gaslighting psychopathic liar.

^Edited his post two minutes after my reply.

^Shill Tactics 101.

^Still butthurt about ICfreely.

^lol.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #126 on: February 24, 2016, 02:57:36 AM »
^Gaslighting psychopathic liar.

^Edited his post two minutes after my reply.

^Shill Tactics 101.

^Still butthurt about ICfreely.

^lol.

The jokes still on you,  I don't  edit other peoples quotes and change names,  that's  gaslighting
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #127 on: February 24, 2016, 03:44:03 AM »
^More classic gaslighting techniques.

^Still not working.

^lol.

Chemtrails are an internet myth.

^Psychopathic Lie.

^No-one believes it.

^lol.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #128 on: February 24, 2016, 03:47:08 AM »
^More classic gaslighting techniques.

^Still not working.

^lol.

Chemtrails are an internet myth.

^Psychopathic Lie.

^No-one believes it.

^lol.

The only place chemtrails exist is in the minds of a tiny number of internet conspiracy nutters.   That's you, in case you were wondering.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #129 on: February 24, 2016, 03:50:30 AM »
I don't  edit other peoples quotes and change names,  that's  gaslighting

^lol.

The only place chemtrails exist is in the minds of a tiny number of internet conspiracy nutters.   That's you, in case you were wondering.

^Needs a tissue.

^lol.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #130 on: February 24, 2016, 03:54:15 AM »
I don't  edit other peoples quotes and change names,  that's  gaslighting

^lol.

The only place chemtrails exist is in the minds of a tiny number of internet conspiracy nutters.   That's you, in case you were wondering.

^Needs a tissue.

^lol.

^baiting again by the master.
^lol

While we are having this intellectual discourse, do you happen to have any proof that chemtrails are what you claim.   I could use a laugh.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #131 on: February 24, 2016, 04:01:13 AM »
do you happen to have any proof that chemtrails are what you claim.

What, the chemtrails you just told us don't exist?

LMFAO!!!

I could use a laugh.

You just gave us a beauty; what a Clown you are!

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #132 on: February 24, 2016, 04:09:37 AM »
do you happen to have any proof that chemtrails are what you claim.

What, the chemtrails you just told us don't exist?

LMFAO!!!

I could use a laugh.

You just gave us a beauty; what a Clown you are!

Toodle-Pip, Lolcow!

If they don't exist how can they be what you claim.   That's dumb even by your low standards.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #133 on: February 24, 2016, 12:32:53 PM »
 This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #134 on: February 24, 2016, 12:37:30 PM »
I wish I was an ex-forces/radar.
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2016, 12:42:00 PM »
You saw trails over some surveying and ASSUMED it was related but you have no proof.   ::)

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2016, 12:51:59 PM »
Your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

Especially as they imply chemtrails are intended to saturate a large volume of atmosphere, rather than spread as a very thin layer at a specific altitude.

...whereas I have observed unmarked cargo planes & possibly even drones doing so.

1. Where did I copy them from? I'd love to see the source.

2. Explain how it is physically possible to spread a "thin layer" of chemicals. Even if it was possible, it would still disperse and you'd end up with a minuscule concentration again.

3. I literally just showed you how a giant aircraft filled to the brim (even the fuel tanks) with chemicals would have virtually no impact after spraying a small area. So yeah, good luck with that claim.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2016, 12:54:23 PM »
Your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

Especially as they imply chemtrails are intended to saturate a large volume of atmosphere, rather than spread as a very thin layer at a specific altitude.

...whereas I have observed unmarked cargo planes & possibly even drones doing so.

Who cares if he copied them?  Math is correct whether it is plagiarized or not.

Deal with the substance of the claim Papa.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #138 on: February 24, 2016, 01:01:27 PM »
You saw trails over some surveying and ASSUMED it was related but you have no proof.

Yeah, right; in fact the Red Arrows were doing a low-level close-formation display to entertain the surveyors.

Idiot.

I wish I was an ex-forces/radar.

^Cannon-fodder.

1. Where did I copy them from? I'd love to see the source.

Sorry I don't have access to the 'Chemtrail Shill Handbook'.

As for the rest of your bullshit; you showed me nothing except copy-pasta...

Bit slow, aintcha, Jihadi Jane?

Who cares if he copied them?

SHE just said SHE didn't copy them...

And bullshit is bullshit whoever spams it.

You lot are useless aintcha?

My uncle took part in the first operational use of this tech; they been refining it ever since...

So don't tell me it don't exist, okay?

And if you keep pissing me off I'll start on other fake weapons technologies; so cool it, retards.

Or don't; it's all good!
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #139 on: February 24, 2016, 01:05:07 PM »
You saw trails over some surveying and ASSUMED it was related but you have no proof.

Yeah, right; in fact the Red Arrows were doing a low-level close-formation display to entertain the surveyors.

Or they were normal contrails.  You never answered before how you knew they were "greasy" or low altitude.  And you still have no proof they were there for the surveying.  Did the surveyors tell you the trails were for them?  Did you see them talking to the pilots on the radio saying "a little more to the East?"  Do you have ANYTHING that actually links the trails to the surveyors?

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #140 on: February 24, 2016, 01:09:36 PM »
You just don't listen, do you?

I don't THINK I know what chemtrails are; I KNOW I know what chemtrails are.

You should just STFU & leave me alone; really, you should.

Read & Learn:

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2016, 01:13:31 PM »
You just don't listen, do you?

I don't THINK I know what chemtrails are; I KNOW I know what chemtrails are.

You should just STFU & leave me alone; really, you should.

Read & Learn:

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.
You think you know but you have yet to show any proof they contain what you say they do. 

Are you basing your determination of whether something is a contrail or "chemtrail" on its persistence?  Do you believe persistent contrails can't exist?

Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2016, 01:16:31 PM »
^Don't need to do any of that.

This is not a debate.

This is me telling you how it is.

You REALLY need to understand that, slimeball.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #143 on: February 24, 2016, 01:24:35 PM »
^Don't need to do any of that.

This is not a debate.

This is me telling you how it is.

You REALLY need to understand that, slimeball.
Why should anyone believe you when you've offered no proof and can't seem to make a single post without including an insult?

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #144 on: February 24, 2016, 01:28:04 PM »
Really need to be talking to your controller, disinfo-thing...

Getting in too deep.

First, google Circular Error Probability (or Circular Error Probable; same thing).

Note how it relates to the accurate delivery of bombs etc...

Then read the below:

So...

CEP.

Grid chemtrails.

Drone testing areas.

GPS.

Alexander Seversky.

Put the pieces together yet?

Want another clue?

Ok; the V1 missile.

Big warhead, cheap as chips to produce & a bastard to intercept...

Not very accurate though.

How to improve that accuracy?

How to improve that guidance system?

Getting the picture yet, retards?

CEP...

Big Deal to the people that count.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #145 on: February 24, 2016, 01:33:01 PM »
So you can't answer why anyone should believe you.  Thought so.

By the way, still have no controller, have posted no disinfo and am not paid to post here or anywhere else.  If you have proof for any of your accusations, please post it  but I know you won't.

I know what circular error of probability is and even PM'd the definition of CEP to another poster that asked long before you gave the definition in thread.  But, like all of your other claims, you've offered no proof it has anything to do with the trails you're seeing in the sky.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #146 on: February 24, 2016, 01:37:03 PM »
I know what circular error of probability is and even PM'd the definition of CEP to another poster that asked long before you gave the definition in thread.

The fact that you hid this information, knowing it was relevant, is conclusive proof of your intellectual dishonesty.

You are a shill & you are shit at your job.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #147 on: February 24, 2016, 01:38:50 PM »
I know what circular error of probability is and even PM'd the definition of CEP to another poster that asked long before you gave the definition in thread.

The fact that you hid this information, knowing it was relevant, is conclusive proof of your intellectual dishonesty.

You are a shill & you are shit at your job.
I hid nothing.  I was waiting for you to prove it is relevant.  I still am.  You have offered no proof of the content of the trails.  You have offered no proof of the purpose of the trails.  You have offered no proof they have a purpose.  And you certainly haven't proven that CEP is relevant.

And again, I am not paid to post here or anywhere else.  Please provide proof if you think otherwise. 

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #148 on: February 24, 2016, 01:40:47 PM »
Yep, just shilling away...

You should be shot, you know?
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #149 on: February 24, 2016, 01:43:44 PM »
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.