Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1560 on: March 10, 2016, 05:55:22 AM »
Are you going to answer anything i just said or again just ignore?

"The V2 weighed 14 tons & was at the limit of how large a liquid-fuelled rocket could be made; still is in fact"

Ahahahahaha wtf is that. You're just making shit up again. Thats like saying a 2.0l car engine from 1940 is the limit an engine can be made. The limit is the size you can build it and still lift it of the ground. Lol what an idiotic statement. Is a v2's rocket engine using the same propellant, same engine that a 2016 liquid engine uses today? NO!

"So what of the 3,000 ton Saturn V?"

The saturn V had 5 rocketdyne F1 liquid engines for its first stage.

Each producing 1,522,000 lbf of thrust each. Thats 7,610,000 lbf of thrust in total. OR 3,451,837.936kgs of thrust. Which is why it moves so slowly.

If a rocket pushed of atmosphere. Which it quite clearly does not. Why do they gain thrust with altitude?

No ignoring, EXPLAIN.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1561 on: March 10, 2016, 06:12:35 AM »
You're just making shit up again.

Nope; that's you.

Like when you said that Joule & Thomson carried out an experiment specifically to prove rockets work in a vacuum.

You're a Liar, kid; you just spam disinfo-bullshit & stamp your foot like a 2-year old when I tell you to shove it.

There's no such thing as a 3,000-ton shpayze-rokkit outside sci-fi books & cartoons.

Just setting off giant explosions under giant things don't mean they'd travel half-a-million miles to teh munn & back.

Only retards & paid liars would claim that.

I don't rightly care which you are.

You have no coherent explanations for how any of this shit works.

You cannot even identify where the force-pairing occurs in your fake shpayze-rokkitz.

You deny every Law of Physics that refutes your deranged fantasies.

You got nothing but petulance & disinfo-bullshit.

Now stop lying & go away.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1562 on: March 10, 2016, 06:17:52 AM »
We already did this in another thread, Geoff & Sokarul  (for yes, it is you two again).

Hang on - wasn't I Geoff? Who is Geoff?

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A vacuum is Nothing; and you cannot Push on Nothing.

Neither can you push on a rocket nozzle. Impossible. Nor a cannonball, nor a cannon. Im-poss-ible.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1563 on: March 10, 2016, 06:20:35 AM »
You're just making shit up again.

Nope; that's you.

Like when you said that Joule & Thomson carried out an experiment specifically to prove rockets work in a vacuum.

You're a Liar, kid; you just spam disinfo-bullshit & stamp your foot like a 2-year old when I tell you to shove it.

There's no such thing as a 3,000-ton shpayze-rokkit outside sci-fi books & cartoons.

Just setting off giant explosions under giant things don't mean they'd travel half-a-million miles to teh munn & back.

Only retards & paid liars would claim that.

I don't rightly care which you are.

You have no coherent explanations for how any of this shit works.

You cannot even identify where the force-pairing occurs in your fake shpayze-rokkitz.

You deny every Law of Physics that refutes your deranged fantasies.

You got nothing but petulance & disinfo-bullshit.

Now stop lying & go away.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1564 on: March 10, 2016, 06:24:33 AM »
I only present facts. I have a real job unlike you, getting paid to spam shit. I enjoy space.

Joule's thompson. Yeah. The reason why is because it was A CLOSED SYSTEM a rocket is not a closed system is it! Therefore joules expansion does not apply. Therefore a rocket works.

3000 tonne. It was if you care to look at photos and videos of it. Or was it just a cardboard box with fake engines catapulted into the atmosphere by a cannon/slingshot.

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look at that CGI from 1968.

"setting explosions under giant things" I dont recall a rocket setting of an explosion underneath itself. That happens in the combustion chamber...

If anyones the liar it is you. Saying a v2 rocket is the limit of rocketry when really you just made that up.

Still you cannot answer.

If a rocket pushed of atmosphere. Which it quite clearly does not. Why do they gain thrust with altitude?

No ignoring, EXPLAIN.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1565 on: March 10, 2016, 06:49:05 AM »
I have a real job unlike you, getting paid to spam shit.

LOL!!!

Psychopathic mirroring ahoy!

I enjoy space.

Been there have you, Billy Liar?

I only present facts.

LOL!!!

I'll be the judge of that, Billy...

The reason why is because it was A CLOSED SYSTEM a rocket is not a closed system is it! Therefore joules expansion does not apply. Therefore a rocket works.

LOL!!!

Can't tell the necessary constraints of the experiment apart from the results & theoretical implications, can we?

Cos the result was that a gas does no work in a vacuum.

None. At. All.

W=pv; when p=0, W=0.

What was that about 'facts' again, Billy-boy?

It was if you care to look at photos and videos of it.

Yay -cartoonz!

I dont recall a rocket setting of an explosion underneath itself.

Blind Billy now, are we?

If anyones the liar it is you

NO U OH U YES U!!!

Learnt that from markjo did we?

If a rocket pushed of atmosphere. Which it quite clearly does not. Why do they gain thrust with altitude?

Already explained.

But you ignored it.

Because Lying Disinfo-bullshitter.

You may want to check out my last post about the Rak.1 & then learn how nozzles are tuned to specific back-pressures though.

Or just keep stamping your foot & spamming petulant, ignorant bullshit...

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1566 on: March 10, 2016, 07:11:17 AM »
Honestly, sarcasm irony don't disguise that you are still encouraging people to commit suicide.

You claim we are psychopaths, but you are encouraging people to kill themself because they disagree with you.  If that does not display an utter devaluing of life and lack of compassion, I don't know what does.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1567 on: March 10, 2016, 07:18:19 AM »
^Sock-poopet reportfag reportfagging reportfaggishly.

^Probably markjo feeling suicidal after the beatdown I handed out to him & all his sock-poopet shill pals today.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1568 on: March 10, 2016, 07:24:38 AM »
Here's some more disgusting garbage to laugh at:

Seeing as he is considered by many to be one of the founding fathers of modern rocketry

Yeah; seems your giant imaginary trash-penises had lots of 'fathers'...

Tsiolkovsky, Goddard, Oberth, Von Braun...
Do you have a point?

... Lucifer, Hermes, Thoth...
No, I didn't think so.

Not many mothers though; funny that, eh?
Throughout history, science and technology have pretty much been a boy's club.  So what?

Here's another of the cranks: Max Valier.

You may want to check out his Opel Rak.1 'rokkit-kar'.

Had a lot of difficulty even getting moving, apparently...
Have you seen some of the early attempts at building airplanes?  New technologies often are rife with false starts and failures.  What's your point?

Funny that, as according to your bullshit man-on-skateboard false analogy it shoulda burst off the line.
That would depend on several factors, including the performance of the rocket engines, thrust to weight ratio, etc.

But no; it had to be got up to speed BEFORE the rockets were lit.

Why?

Because a rocket exhaust pushes on the atmosphere, which has a low rejection ratio (about 5:1, or 20%).
Or, maybe because the rockets weren't very powerful at the time.

This makes overcoming Inertia in order to then gain Momentum difficult.

Which is why we see the V2 rocket struggling to take off.

The V2 weighed 14 tons & was at the limit of how large a liquid-fuelled rocket could be made; still is in fact.
How exactly did you determine that 14 tons is still the upper limit for liquid fueled rockets?

So what of the 3,000 ton Saturn V?
Lessons learned and technical advancements over the next 20 years or so led to much larger and more powerful rockets.  I'm not sure why it should seem so improbable.

All this had been discovered by 1957; rocketry was a bust, as was extreme high-altitude hypersonic flight.
Do you mean a bust like the X-15 was a bust?

'Space' is No-Man's Land; can't be weaponised, can't be colonised.

Can be Propagandised though; which is what every single one of the Idiots I am 'debating' here is doing...
LOL!!  Do you honestly consider what you're doing 'debating'?  You've been watching too many political 'debates'.

Filling your heads with Propaganda Bullshit.

Not Science; PROPAGANDA.

Enjoy.

Anyhoo; back to the Propagandists: Carry On Lying!
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1569 on: March 10, 2016, 08:42:10 AM »

All this had been discovered by 1957; rocketry was a bust, as was extreme high-altitude hypersonic flight.


And yet the next year, your oft-cited Operation Smoke Puff went up 60 miles into the atmosphere using an Aerobee rocket.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1570 on: March 10, 2016, 08:43:29 AM »
Fuel and oxidizer are pumped into a chamber that wide open on one end. This mixture is ignited causing to expand at and explosive rate. One liter of LOX (liquid Ox) is more than 860.26 liters of gas.  One liter of Liquid Hydrogen is 849.22 liters of gas.

Burning this mixture creates a mass of water and unburned gasses which expands the mass and is ejected out the open end of chamber with a force measured from a few foot pound to many tons, depending on the size and design of the engine. The fuel/water mass is pushing against the mass of the rocket not against a vacuum.

Simple middle school math and science and easy to prove in a vacuum chamber.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1571 on: March 10, 2016, 08:55:25 AM »
Do you mean a bust like the X-15 was a bust?

Your beloved Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeen was Fake, retard.

And you're still a massive liar & sock-puppeteer,

Nexzus & Round and Proud are the most obvious sock-poopets you've activated in months, so will be ignored.

You're losing it, markjo; under no circumstances have fun because of this.

Toodle-pip, Mistah markjo.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1572 on: March 10, 2016, 09:14:38 AM »

Nexzus & Round and Proud are the most obvious sock-poopets you've activated in months, so will be ignored.


I'm paraphrasing here but: "The evidence is too overwhelming! Cognitive dissonance is taking hold! MUST..... NOT.... BELIEVE!!"

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1573 on: March 10, 2016, 09:29:51 AM »
The X-15 was real. Saw it heard it.

But keep up the name calling it is last refuge of those that cannot debate the math, the facts and known history. Like the guy calling Einstein and idiot and completely wrong. His math is correct, so much so that the Atom Bomb and Hydrogen Bomb actually work.

You want respect, but it is a two way street. I have NOT called anyone names, but in my posting just once, you managed to be disrespectful. Why? Because you can't debate the science and math of what I posted.

IF this how you make your point. Ya got no point to make.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1574 on: March 10, 2016, 11:01:31 AM »
Do you mean a bust like the X-15 was a bust?

Your beloved Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeen was Fake, retard.
What evidence do you have that the X-15 was fake?
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1575 on: March 10, 2016, 11:26:11 AM »
The idiots keep saying conservation of momentum doesn't apply to a gas. So, got any proof that Noether's first theorem is wrong yet?

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1576 on: March 10, 2016, 12:48:31 PM »
But no; it had to be got up to speed BEFORE the rockets were lit.

Why?

Why? Because the X-15 had a wing span of 22 feet 4 inches with a small aspect ratio. The total surface area of the wing was 200 sq ft. And the air foil was for speed not lift. Even at a zero angle of attack the wing had a very slow stall speed. (the airspeed at which lift is no longer maintained)
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1577 on: March 10, 2016, 01:19:22 PM »
The X-15 was real. Saw it heard it.

Liar.

Like the guy calling Einstein and idiot and completely wrong.

He was & he is.

Just like you.

Energy is the same as the speed of light multiplied by itself?

LOL!!!

Stfu & gtfo.

Einstein was a creation of the Swiss Intelligence services & Bankers.

He is an absolute joke there; no-one takes his woo-woo gibberish seriously.

the Atom Bomb and Hydrogen Bomb actually work.

No they don't.

They're pure voodoo; fear-porn pseudo-scientific bullshit.

You want respect

I want NOTHING from liars like you except for you to stfu & gtfo.

Please oblige.

Because you can't debate the science and math of what I posted.

You didn't post any.

You posted Lies.

Can't debate Lies; can only point at em & laugh.

You are the worst sock-puppet Clown Derfer yet.

With the stupidest name.

Good to know they're getting desperate.

Now stfu & gtfo.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1578 on: March 10, 2016, 01:24:45 PM »
Energy is the same as the speed of light multiplied by itself?
Nope. 

E=mc2

In other words:

Energy is mass multiplied by the speed of light squared.

If you're going to call someone a liar, then at least make sure that you get the (alleged) lie correct.

But don't worry, even that stupid a mistake isn't worth killing yourself over.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1579 on: March 10, 2016, 01:45:31 PM »
No they don't.

They're pure voodoo; fear-porn pseudo-scientific bullshit. [quote/]

Interesting, all A bombs are voodoo? Japan just decided go along with the lie? Seriously?

And never mind I worked around nukes for more than 7 years. I guess 200 missiles spread out over 24k miles of Montana is fake too?

Prove it. Saying it is voodoo doesn't prove it. You can say Middle Earth is real too, but....
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1580 on: March 10, 2016, 01:57:38 PM »
And never mind I worked around nukes for more than 7 years.

Cool story bro...

Saw teh Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen too?

Bet you're a big hit at the annual JREF Lie-athon.

'Roownnnd andd Prwowd'; LOL!!!

What a Jackass!

Energy is the same as the speed of light multiplied by itself?
Nope. 

E=mc2

In other words:

Energy is mass multiplied by the speed of light squared.

If you're going to call someone a liar, then at least make sure that you get the (alleged) lie correct.

But don't worry, even that stupid a mistake isn't worth killing yourself over.

Oh yeah cos that makes MILES more sense don't it?

Energy is just the same as Mass; but you have to multiply it by the speed of light multiplied by itself to get there...

Somehow.

Everything Einstein wrote is utter bullshit.

NOTHING practical has ever come of it nor has it ever been proven.

Which is why I can't be arsed memorising it.

You, on the other hand, seem to be a Master of Bullshit-Recital.

Now say 'NO U!!!' again, Lying Shitpost King of Nowhere...

Or go wank over cartoonz of teh fayk Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen or whatever.

Nobody cares.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1581 on: March 10, 2016, 01:59:38 PM »
Plus, you really hated this post, so here it comes again:

Seeing as he is considered by many to be one of the founding fathers of modern rocketry

Yeah; seems your giant imaginary trash-penises had lots of 'fathers'...

Tsiolkovsky, Goddard, Oberth, Von Braun, Lucifer, Hermes, Thoth...

Not many mothers though; funny that, eh?

Here's another of the cranks: Max Valier.

You may want to check out his Opel Rak.1 'rokkit-kar'.

Had a lot of difficulty even getting moving, apparently...

Funny that, as according to your bullshit man-on-skateboard false analogy it shoulda burst off the line.

But no; it had to be got up to speed BEFORE the rockets were lit.

Why?

Because a rocket exhaust pushes on the atmosphere, which has a low rejection ratio (about 5:1, or 20%).

This makes overcoming Inertia in order to then gain Momentum difficult.

Which is why we see the V2 rocket struggling to take off.

The V2 weighed 14 tons & was at the limit of how large a liquid-fuelled rocket could be made; still is in fact.

So what of the 3,000 ton Saturn V?

Lol no!

All this had been discovered by 1957; rocketry was a bust, as was extreme high-altitude hypersonic flight.

'Space' is No-Man's Land; can't be weaponised, can't be colonised.

Can be Propagandised though; which is what every single one of the Idiots I am 'debating' here is doing...

Filling your heads with Propaganda Bullshit.

Not Science; PROPAGANDA.

Enjoy.

Anyhoo; back to the Propagandists: Carry On Lying!
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1582 on: March 10, 2016, 02:57:59 PM »
could u explain 'atmosphere rejection ratio'?

Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1583 on: March 10, 2016, 03:00:10 PM »
Papa, you still haven't given your proof that Noether's first theorem is wrong yet. If gas doesn't conserve momentum then it has to be wrong.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1584 on: March 10, 2016, 03:00:30 PM »
And never mind I worked around nukes for more than 7 years.

Cool story bro...

Saw teh Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen too?

Bet you're a big hit at the annual JREF Lie-athon.

'Roownnnd andd Prwowd'; LOL!!!

What a Jackass!

Energy is the same as the speed of light multiplied by itself?
Nope. 

E=mc2

In other words:

Energy is mass multiplied by the speed of light squared.

If you're going to call someone a liar, then at least make sure that you get the (alleged) lie correct.

But don't worry, even that stupid a mistake isn't worth killing yourself over.

Oh yeah cos that makes MILES more sense don't it?

Energy is just the same as Mass; but you have to multiply it by the speed of light multiplied by itself to get there...

Somehow.

Everything Einstein wrote is utter bullshit.

NOTHING practical has ever come of it nor has it ever been proven.

Which is why I can't be arsed memorising it.

You, on the other hand, seem to be a Master of Bullshit-Recital.

Now say 'NO U!!!' again, Lying Shitpost King of Nowhere...

Or go wank over cartoonz of teh fayk Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen or whatever.

Nobody cares.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1585 on: March 10, 2016, 03:21:31 PM »
And never mind I worked around nukes for more than 7 years.

Cool story bro...

Saw teh Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen too?

Bet you're a big hit at the annual JREF Lie-athon.

'Roownnnd andd Prwowd'; LOL!!!

What a Jackass!

Energy is the same as the speed of light multiplied by itself?
Nope. 

E=mc2

In other words:

Energy is mass multiplied by the speed of light squared.

If you're going to call someone a liar, then at least make sure that you get the (alleged) lie correct.

But don't worry, even that stupid a mistake isn't worth killing yourself over.

Oh yeah cos that makes MILES more sense don't it?

Energy is just the same as Mass; but you have to multiply it by the speed of light multiplied by itself to get there...

Somehow.

Everything Einstein wrote is utter bullshit.

NOTHING practical has ever come of it nor has it ever been proven.

Which is why I can't be arsed memorising it.

You, on the other hand, seem to be a Master of Bullshit-Recital.

Now say 'NO U!!!' again, Lying Shitpost King of Nowhere...

Or go wank over cartoonz of teh fayk Ecks-Fifteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen or whatever.

Nobody cares.

0800 673 877: Chronic Masturbation Hotline.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1586 on: March 10, 2016, 07:31:04 PM »
Energy is just the same as Mass; but you have to multiply it by the speed of light multiplied by itself to get there...
Yes, matter and energy are equivalent.  Get over it.

Everything Einstein wrote is utter bullshit.

NOTHING practical has ever come of it nor has it ever been proven.
Now that is utter bullshit. 

For example, photomultipliers, night vision devices and image sensors (among other things) are based on Einstein's Nobel prize winning discovery of the photoelectric effect.

Which is why I can't be arsed memorising it.
Yes, because one of the most famous equations in history is so hard to remember. ::)
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1587 on: March 11, 2016, 12:16:43 AM »
If gas doesn't conserve momentum then it has to be wrong.

Hi Mainframes! So the 'Empirical' ID is another GP sock-poopet that any of you Clowns can use too?

Thanks for that.

Anyhoo; yet again you are attributing things to me that I never said.

Even though Conservation of Energy is more usefully applied to gasses than COM, they both amount to the same thing.

And Free Expansion of Gas in a Vacuum violates NEITHER.

I have NEVER claimed it does.

This is all thoroughly-established, repeatedly experimentally-verified scientific FACT.

And it all adds up to NASA's gas-powered rockets not working in a vacuum.

You'd know that if you weren't pseudo-skeptic, pseudo-science worshipping JREF/RationalWiki disinfo-scum.

Yes, matter and energy are equivalent.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Oh, wow!

How many times must I tell you not to try slipping voodoo past Legba?

photomultipliers, night vision devices and image sensors (among other things) are based on Einstein's Nobel prize winning discovery of the photoelectric effect.

No they're not.

They're based on engineers slowly building on the work of other engineers until a workable device is created.

Or are you really suggesting their inventors read Einstein then had a Eureka moment?

Basically you've slipped into full-on lying & voodoo mode now markjo...

Should stick to 'NO U!!!' & rolly-eye emojis.

Like this in fact:

Yes, because one of the most famous equations in history is so hard to remember. ::)

LOL!!!

What a Loser...

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1588 on: March 11, 2016, 12:25:25 AM »
Plus, you really hated this post, so here it comes again:
Anyhoo; back to the Propagandists: Carry On Lying!
Papa
(1) You should be careful, the "cut & paste" key on your steam powered computer will be worn out soon.
(2) You are an out and out liar! You keep saying "Toodle-pip", but don't mean it. Next time you say it please make everyone happy.

By the way,  learnt how DeLaval nozzles work yet. The fact that pressure cannot travel upstream in sonic or super sonic flow is important in understanding how the choking of those nozzles work. Till you understand that you will never understand what all the rocket scientists and engineers have understood for 80 years or more.

This ignorance must make you feel totally inadequate. You probably should consult a professional. Take along a transcript of this thread. I'm sure will help with your diagnosis. You might look up: http://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html.
Just trying to help.

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Papa Legba

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1589 on: March 11, 2016, 12:50:43 AM »
The fact that pressure cannot travel upstream in sonic or super sonic flow is important in understanding how the choking of those nozzles work.

Yes; when there's pressure upstream.

But how can there be pressure upstream when there's a vacuum downstream?

Nothing you say makes sense; you have De Laval nozzles on the brain.

They are irrelevant, retard; a Finite system can't create pressure against an Infinite vacuum.

And rocket thrust is created at the nozzle Exit, NOT the throat or combustion chamber anyway.

Without atmospheric pressure at the Exit there will be no thrust.

Because you can't push on nothing.

It's all pretty simple stuff.

Put your strawman dolly away & stop channelling your fellow Australian disinfo-shill Kris de Valle, okay?

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