Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1650 on: March 13, 2016, 03:13:27 AM »
You tell 'em, Poppa!
One day these idiots will realise that thrust is only ever created right at the EXIT of the NOZZLE and NOWHERE ELSE. Exhaust molecule hits an atmospheric gas molecule, creating a force pairing that causes the rocket to move!
It's so blindingly obvious!
The molecules of gas don't have to touch the nozzle at all in order to create a thrust on the rocket, it is the simple interaction between 2 gas particles, right at the EXIT of the NOZZLE, that causes rockets to work in an atmosphere, because Poppa-fysics! 
How can these goons not see the truth that's slapping them in the face!
Any idiot who says that ANY gas molecule in the raging stream of superheated and expanding gases can EVER touch the nozzle is quite simply an idiot.

Because, Poppa-Physics!

I luuuurve Poppa-Physics, Poppa. But most of all, I luuurve you.
Why didn't I study Poppy-fisiks at Minestrone Insurrection of Technocracy (MIT) then I might have learned how these rokets stop dead once they leave the atmosphere.
Pity I wasted all that time on DeLaval nozzles and super-sonic flow that allows the real rockets to work in a vacuum, such a waste.
Thanks for all this Poppy-fisiks!
Haven't all you people finished toying with Papa yet, really you are being awful to the poor ignorant fool. Cruel and inhuman punishment I call it!

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1651 on: March 13, 2016, 05:51:06 AM »


http://starflightpublishing.weebly.com/my-books.html   

You were saying?
I already know you write science-fiction, aspie.

Look; here it is:

I grew up with Space Program. I lived in not 10 miles from the Rocketdyne (later North American Rockwell) Santa Susanna Engine Test Facility in hills above of Simi Valley. My Dad, worked at Rocketdyne, I had the engine drawings the whole 9 yards. I understood more about rockets by age 10 than you ever will.

As for nukes, I've got an Air Force DD214 I'll bring to the interrogation, which of course you will immediately declare a CGI forgery. All evidence that doesn't fit your fantasy must at all cost be declared fake.
Cool story bro...

Though in typical aspie style you don't seem alive to the nuances of human emotion, do you?

Like sarcasm, irony or even a straight LMFAO right in your dumb face...

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That's your response; a failed attempt to call me a liar?

Well okay... I just checked on Google Earth and it was just under 4 miles not 10. Ya got me, sort of, maybe, kinda, as 4 miles is still "not more than 10 miles."

Hearing the full test of the first stage of the Saturn V was beyond words. The valley rocked, and sound could be felt.

Lets see

clown

Liar

Shill

Aspie. Whatever that is.

Sock-puppet.

When you respond this time try something new, would ya?
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1652 on: March 13, 2016, 07:06:56 AM »
Hearing the full test of the first stage of the Saturn V was beyond words. The valley rocked, and sound could be felt.

Cools story bro...

Kinda gay though.

Guess there must be a market for gay sci-fi then?

So you are saying gas can leave through a hole without moving towards the hole first, Papa logic at its best.

Well, I'm kinda saying that 'momentum' is not a verb for starters...

But if you can't even grasp that then everything else I say will be way beyond you, rockin' sockin' robot.

Pity I wasted all that time on DeLaval nozzles and super-sonic flow that allows the real rockets to work in a vacuum, such a waste.

No, the only people whose time you wasted with your wanky strawman schnozzle-spamming was mine & the readers.

Cos the thrust of a rocket is created at the Exit of the nozzle, so in a vacuum its design is irrelevant.

But, as you showed what a creepy OCD disinfo-tard you are at the same time I guess we're quits.

Toodle-pip, Idiots; enjoy spending your sunday astro-turfing a flat earth forum...

Cos THAT'S a thing normal folk do, ain't it?

LOL!!!

Give em enough rope...
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1653 on: March 13, 2016, 07:19:56 AM »
Hearing the full test of the first stage of the Saturn V was beyond words. The valley rocked, and sound could be felt.

Cools story bro...

Kinda gay though.

Guess there must be a market for gay sci-fi then?

So you are saying gas can leave through a hole without moving towards the hole first, Papa logic at its best.

Well, I'm kinda saying that 'momentum' is not a verb for starters...

But if you can't even grasp that then everything else I say will be way beyond you, rockin' sockin' robot.

Pity I wasted all that time on DeLaval nozzles and super-sonic flow that allows the real rockets to work in a vacuum, such a waste.

No, the only people whose time you wasted with your wanky strawman schnozzle-spamming was mine & the readers.

Cos the thrust of a rocket is created at the Exit of the nozzle, so in a vacuum its design is irrelevant.

But, as you showed what a creepy OCD disinfo-tard you are at the same time I guess we're quits.

Toodle-pip, Idiots; enjoy spending your sunday astro-turfing a flat earth forum...

Cos THAT'S a thing normal folk do, ain't it?

LOL!!!

Give em enough rope...

Well that at least was new. Weak and predictable, but new. BTW you still haven't proved I didn't live there and see, hear and feel the test.

Now for the rocket can't work in a vacuum;  Your myth? BUSTED
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1654 on: March 13, 2016, 07:27:00 AM »
Nobody cares, Issac Asimov.

020 8238 0900: Autism Diagnostic Service.

Anyhoo; let's all laugh at Empirical/Sokarul using the word 'momentum' as a verb again:

The gas leaving the rocket can only leave it in the direction of the hole, so the gas will momentum in the direction of the hole, so for conservation of momentum to be satisfied something must gain momentum in the opposite direction, I wonder what that could be?

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1655 on: March 13, 2016, 07:28:30 AM »
Nobody cares, Issac Asimov.

020 8238 0900: Autism Diagnostic Service.

Anyhoo; let's all laugh at Empirical/Sokarul using the word 'momentum' as a verb again:

The gas leaving the rocket can only leave it in the direction of the hole, so the gas will momentum in the direction of the hole, so for conservation of momentum to be satisfied something must gain momentum in the opposite direction, I wonder what that could be?

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1656 on: March 13, 2016, 09:57:43 AM »
Nobody cares, Issac Asimov.

020 8238 0900: Autism Diagnostic Service.

Anyhoo; let's all laugh at Empirical/Sokarul using the word 'momentum' as a verb again:

The gas leaving the rocket can only leave it in the direction of the hole, so the gas will momentum in the direction of the hole, so for conservation of momentum to be satisfied something must gain momentum in the opposite direction, I wonder what that could be?

Sunday afternoon lulz with teh Capering Clown Derfer Posse!
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This one is better: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Still papa claims it's fake. I'd like your opinion?

Papa
Still waiting for an answer as to why rockets gain thrust as they gain altitude.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1657 on: March 13, 2016, 12:36:31 PM »
Nobody cares, Issac Asimov.

020 8238 0900: Autism Diagnostic Service.

Anyhoo; let's all laugh at Empirical/Sokarul using the word 'momentum' as a verb again:

The gas leaving the rocket can only leave it in the direction of the hole, so the gas will momentum in the direction of the hole, so for conservation of momentum to be satisfied something must gain momentum in the opposite direction, I wonder what that could be?

Sunday afternoon lulz with teh Capering Clown Derfer Posse!
" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

This one is better: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Still papa claims it's fake. I'd like your opinion?

Papa
Still waiting for an answer as to why rockets gain thrust as they gain altitude.


You link is a great one, and in fact, I have posted on these broads before. I posted the one above because in dealing with Papa, I have come to realize that the simpler the better as though I was talking to my 5 year old grand daughter 2 years ago.

Not sure even then Pap can grasp the truth in the link. But we all do what we can.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1658 on: March 13, 2016, 02:17:28 PM »
Papa you're bring. It's obvious that there is meant to be the word 'have' between will and momentum. That fact you sieze on a typing error shows how weak your position is.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1659 on: March 13, 2016, 04:03:39 PM »
Yeah; still going with the idea that the word 'momentum' is a verb?

How do you think that'll look to neutral readers?

I mean; just look at this garbage:

The gas leaving the rocket can only leave it in the direction of the hole, so the gas will momentum in the direction of the hole, so for conservation of momentum to be satisfied something must gain momentum in the opposite direction, I wonder what that could be?

And this is from a post by some idiot claiming Free Expansion violates COM to boot...

LOL!!!

What a tool.

I actually explained why it doesn't pages ago...

But I'm still giving these geeks all the rope they need to hang emselves completely.

How did Shakespeare describe your situation?

'I am in blood stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er'.

Taking your lessons from Macbeth now, Clowns?

How do you think that'll work out for you?

Any better than it did for him?

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1660 on: March 13, 2016, 04:07:51 PM »
Insurance post.

Needed cuz the clowns are manipulating the thread again.

Naughty Clowns!
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1661 on: March 13, 2016, 04:11:43 PM »
Dear shadowy hackers who have total control of the site and/or Legba's devices and can see what he's going to post, and who use this ability to commit the incredible miracle of making a post a couple of minutes earlier than they would have otherwise,
Can you work on figuring out how to access the ban feature? We'd all very much appreciate it.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1662 on: March 13, 2016, 04:21:02 PM »
Just been looking at some of the disgusting guff I usually ignore.

Here''s a creepy brainwashing post from rabinoz/Rayzor/ausGeoff etc:

Have you ever though that all these people you addled brain thinks are "sock-puppets" are posting similar information because we all agree and poor Papa is the odd man out! I can assure you that me, rayzzor, sokarul, TylerJRB, PsychedelicPill, markjo, Empirical, Round and Proud, luckyfred and even ausGeoff (hasn't been around for 8 months or so) are all very different people - the only common thread is that we know you are 100% wrong!
Still it's a bit like "Look mummy, our Papa's the only one in step!"

Makes your flesh crawl don't it?

I like how he deliberately spelt Rayzor's name wrong though; nice touch!
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1663 on: March 13, 2016, 04:25:52 PM »
Here's Rayzor/PsychedelicShill/etc deliberately misinterpreting the Free Expansion diagram I posted:

Anyhoo; all anyone needs to understand to be sure I am correct in my position is what this diagram represents:



It is a thought experiment, based upon the theoretical implications of Free Expansion & shows clearly what would happen to a gas whilst expanding into an infinite vacuum.

The answer is: NOTHING.


B-b-b-but - I thought the rocket gases were being forced out into a VACUUM? This diagramme shows them pushing against a solid object. So, it's not expanding into an infinite vacuum.

Will he ever apologise for Lying like this?

Will any of the Clown Derf Borg Hive-Mind ever point out he is Lying?

Lol no!

That will NEVER happen...

I wonder why?
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1664 on: March 13, 2016, 04:29:02 PM »
Here's rabinoz/Rayzor Lying about Empirical Lying again:

Noone that I saw said "Free Expansion violates COM".

Here you go, Stevie Wonder.

It was only a couple of posts above yours.

If gas doesn't conserve momentum then it has to be wrong.

Hi Mainframes! So the 'Empirical' ID is another GP sock-poopet that any of you Clowns can use too?

Thanks for that.

Anyhoo; yet again you are attributing things to me that I never said.

Even though Conservation of Energy is more usefully applied to gasses than COM, they both amount to the same thing.

And Free Expansion of Gas in a Vacuum violates NEITHER.

I have NEVER claimed it does.

This is all thoroughly-established, repeatedly experimentally-verified scientific FACT.

And it all adds up to NASA's gas-powered rockets not working in a vacuum.
It does violate conservation of momentum. The gas leaving the rocket can only leave it in the direction of the hole, so the gas will momentum in the direction of the hole, so for conservation of momentum to be satisfied something must gain momentum in the opposite direction, I wonder what that could be?
This wasn't answered.

Why do you all Lie so much?

Why are you all so shit at your jobs?

Who cares?

It's super-lulzy for me!

Toodle-pip, Losing Liars!

Starting to see a pattern yet?
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1665 on: March 13, 2016, 04:34:52 PM »
Here's rabinoz/Rayzor Lying about Empirical Lying again:

Noone that I saw said "Free Expansion violates COM".

Here you go, Stevie Wonder.

It was only a couple of posts above yours.

If gas doesn't conserve momentum then it has to be wrong.

Hi Mainframes! So the 'Empirical' ID is another GP sock-poopet that any of you Clowns can use too?

Thanks for that.

Anyhoo; yet again you are attributing things to me that I never said.

Even though Conservation of Energy is more usefully applied to gasses than COM, they both amount to the same thing.

And Free Expansion of Gas in a Vacuum violates NEITHER.

I have NEVER claimed it does.

This is all thoroughly-established, repeatedly experimentally-verified scientific FACT.

And it all adds up to NASA's gas-powered rockets not working in a vacuum.
It does violate conservation of momentum. The gas leaving the rocket can only leave it in the direction of the hole, so the gas will momentum in the direction of the hole, so for conservation of momentum to be satisfied something must gain momentum in the opposite direction, I wonder what that could be?
This wasn't answered.

Why do you all Lie so much?

Why are you all so shit at your jobs?

Who cares?

It's super-lulzy for me!

Toodle-pip, Losing Liars!

Starting to see a pattern yet?

YEP I do. Three times a link has been posted and three times you have ignored it.
 
Your myth is busted.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1666 on: March 13, 2016, 04:43:22 PM »
And here's me answering Empirical's COM bullshit days ago.

If you cannot understand how the Momentum of a gas that is Expanding, Freely, into Nothing, without hitting anything on the way, or doing any Work whatsoever, is Conserved, then God help you.

Also, the mythbusters bullshit experiment has also already been addressed, but the Clowns are now Pretending it has not...

The pattern is becoming very clear.

They are simply gang-stalking me & rehashing the same bullshit over & over.

Because they have Lost.

Again.

LOL!!!
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1667 on: March 13, 2016, 04:53:25 PM »
And here's me answering Empirical's COM bullshit days ago.

If you cannot understand how the Momentum of a gas that is Expanding, Freely, into Nothing, without hitting anything on the way, or doing any Work whatsoever, is Conserved, then God help you.

Also, the mythbusters bullshit experiment has also already been addressed, but the Clowns are now Pretending it has not...

The pattern is becoming very clear.

They are simply gang-stalking me & rehashing the same bullshit over & over.

Because they have Lost.

Again.

LOL!!!

Sure sure. They proved it, the experiment has been repeated hundreds if not millions of times, with the same results, but because YOU say  ALL of the are fake that settles it as fake. What an ego.

Go find mortuary, you're brain dead, but your body hasn't figured it out yet.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1668 on: March 13, 2016, 04:59:24 PM »
the experiment has been repeated hundreds if not millions of times

Cool story bro...

Millions of people testing rockets in fake home-made vacuum chambers?

Sounds legit.

Stick to the sci-fi, Loser.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1669 on: March 13, 2016, 05:14:00 PM »
the experiment has been repeated hundreds if not millions of times

Cool story bro...

Millions of people testing rockets in fake home-made vacuum chambers?

Sounds legit.

Stick to the sci-fi, Loser.

"fake home-made vacuum chambers"

So people trying to mislead, or are you doubting that a DIY chamber is a fair test?

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1670 on: March 13, 2016, 05:16:03 PM »
And here's me answering Empirical's COM bullshit days ago.

If you cannot understand how the Momentum of a gas that is Expanding, Freely, into Nothing, without hitting anything on the way, or doing any Work whatsoever, is Conserved, then God help you.
Where do you suppose the expanding gas's momentum came from in the first place?
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1671 on: March 13, 2016, 05:26:26 PM »
the experiment has been repeated hundreds if not millions of times

Cool story bro...

Millions of people testing rockets in fake home-made vacuum chambers?

Sounds legit.

Stick to the sci-fi, Loser.

Do you ever get tired of running on that wheel in the cage? Your SOP is name calling and saying its been covered before. Or do you save yourself time and have a Word or Pages file where you can cut and paste the response you feel is the is closest one for the issue?

We get that you believe Capt. Obvious. But so far you can't explain why you do, or why math is wrong, or only works in some cases but not others. You can't explain why RE math predicts perfectly all that we see, but is still wrong. Why the gravitational calculations proved Pluto was there decades before it was found is wrong. Or why the orbits of the asteroids show strong proof there is an ever bigger planet out there still to be found, is also wrong.

Nope you have proved nothing, except you have a huge talent for posting variations of lies, insults and other BS. But you have the greatest talent  I have ever seen in ignoring proved facts.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1672 on: March 13, 2016, 05:29:16 PM »
Here's Rayzor/PsychedelicShill/etc deliberately misinterpreting the Free Expansion diagram I posted:

Anyhoo; all anyone needs to understand to be sure I am correct in my position is what this diagram represents:



It is a thought experiment, based upon the theoretical implications of Free Expansion & shows clearly what would happen to a gas whilst expanding into an infinite vacuum.

The answer is: NOTHING.


B-b-b-but - I thought the rocket gases were being forced out into a VACUUM? This diagramme shows them pushing against a solid object. So, it's not expanding into an infinite vacuum.

Will he ever apologise for Lying like this?

Will any of the Clown Derf Borg Hive-Mind ever point out he is Lying?

Lol no!

That will NEVER happen...

I wonder why?

B-b-b-but Poppa - where did I lie?

I though you said the diagramme showed what happened while the gas expanded into an infinite vacuum?

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It is a thought experiment, based upon the theoretical implications of Free Expansion & shows clearly what would happen to a gas whilst expanding into an infinite vacuum.

You DID! You DID say it shows what happens when the gas expands into an infinite vacuum!

I simply pointed out what we see in the diagrammes - the gases are not forced out into an infinite vacuum. The gas molecules are contained by a border that presumably denotes a solid object? Ergo the diagrammes cannot possibly denote an infinite vacuum?

Before - gases are pushing on the walls of the object.
During - Gases are pushing on 3 sides of the solid object, and also expanding into a finite vacuum, created by moving the imaginary piston quicker than the molecules can theoretically travel.
After - gases are pushing on the walls of the object, after expanding into the now defunct finite vacuum.

Now, since we know you do not lie or ever, ever make misteaks (sic) about Fhysics, a logical assumption to make is that someone hacked the wiki page you got the image from. Or, maybe you mis-typed and said infinite vacuum, when you really meant finite vacuum. Now, I don't think you make silly mistakes, so maybe you were having a little joke with us all to make sure we were paying attention? A Proppa Leg-pull maybe? (See what I did there?)

That got me thinking... maybe you're having a Proppa Leg-Pull when you said that thrust can ONLY be created in the exit of the nozzle and NOWHERE else, due to force-pairing between an exhaust gas molecule and a molecule of atmosphere?

Can you explain using first principles exactly how that would cause a rocket to lift off from good old planet Earth, according to Poppa Physics, please Poppa?

Cuddles etc, PsychopathicShill.

PS Please don't keep accusing me of being Geoff, Rayzor et al. The nurses have just about got me believing I'm not Napoleon and Elvis, and that took some pretty far out medical procedures I don't want to have to go through again.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1673 on: March 13, 2016, 05:41:03 PM »
So people trying to mislead, or are you doubting that a DIY chamber is a fair test?

I'm doubting millions of people have done this experiment.

Which is what Clowned Out Loud claimed.

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B-b-b-but Poppa - where did I lie?

Just told you.

Lol psycho!

Where do you suppose the expanding gas's momentum came from in the first place?

From the conversion of its pressure potential energy into kinetic energy.

Which you already know, as I have told you multiple times on multiple threads.

Perhaps you'd like to Lie & tell me I haven't though?

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1674 on: March 13, 2016, 05:49:31 PM »
Plus lol at this off-topic garbage by yet another retarded disinfo-bot:

You can't explain why RE math predicts perfectly all that we see, but is still wrong. Why the gravitational calculations proved Pluto was there decades before it was found is wrong. Or why the orbits of the asteroids show strong proof there is an ever bigger planet out there still to be found, is also wrong.

What's that got to do with rockets working in a vacuum, Arthur C Clarke?

Derail much?

Gish-galloping buncha Losers...
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1675 on: March 13, 2016, 05:50:47 PM »
B-b-b-but Poppa - where did I lie?

Just told you.

Lol psycho!

B-b-b-bbut Poppa, as you can plainly see, I was telling the twoof!  :o

B-b-but you were telling a lie mistake about the infinite vacuum, weren't you Poppa?

My world could collapse if I find out you lied. Pleeeease tell me you made an embarrassing little mistook instead, then I can sleep in my own bed, instead of the seclusion room here on the unit. Pwetty pwease?

Wattle it be, Poppa? Lie or mistook?
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1676 on: March 13, 2016, 05:58:55 PM »
So people trying to mislead, or are you doubting that a DIY chamber is a fair test?

I'm doubting millions of people have done this experiment.

Which is what Clowned Out Loud claimed.

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B-b-b-but Poppa - where did I lie?

Just told you.

Lol psycho!

Where do you suppose the expanding gas's momentum came from in the first place?

From the conversion of its pressure potential energy into kinetic energy.

Which you already know, as I have told you multiple times on multiple threads.

Perhaps you'd like to Lie & tell me I haven't though?

And YOU have NOT conducted any test to disprove it.

True science says unless you can disprove the results that others have reproduced under the the same or like conditions, you are dumb one. There have been at lest two DIFFERENT versions of thrust proved in a vacuum posted here. And instead of disproving it, you vomit cut and paste BS.

Google how rockets work in space and you get more than 4 million hits. Its been in schools from middle school to grad school.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1677 on: March 13, 2016, 06:02:50 PM »
Where do you suppose the expanding gas's momentum came from in the first place?

From the conversion of its pressure potential energy into kinetic energy.
That sounds an awful lot like work, but of course we all know that work can't happen during free expansion.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1678 on: March 13, 2016, 06:15:50 PM »
I've managed to fight off the goons here at the unit, but they'll be coming back with a restraining jacket shortly, so I haven't got much time.

Question for Poppa (or any else who has a BSc in Poppa-Fhysics).

Given that we KNOW a rocket needs something (e.g. an atmosphere to push against), and won't work in a vacuum, does that mean the denser the atmosphere, the greater the thrust?

I'm writing to NASA. They should be standing their rockets in a great big bowl of water before lift-off. Water is 1000x denser than air, so presumably that means the thrust at lift-off would be 1000x greater? Plus, a lot of steam would get generated: more gas for the exhaust to push against.

Can't believe those goons didn't think of that.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1679 on: March 13, 2016, 06:18:59 PM »
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