Seafloor Spreading??

Nah, just a mistake, you know those things which everyone makes once in a while.

You have to say it 0 times for me to get it. Oh wait, why are you still saying this?
Weight doesn't exist either, because weight and the force of gravity is the exact same thing. It seems you didn't know this, since you answered so stupidly.

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 29, 2016, 07:18:20 PM

Yep.  That's what I said.  I see your reading comprehension has not improved.

Nope, you said:

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 28, 2016, 11:06:40 PM

1. Coordinate acceleration is the rate of change of velocity.
2. Physical acceleration is the acceleration of a body relative to an inertial condition.

Can't find a=dv/dt anywhere in there.  (Yes, I am aware that 1 means basically the same thing, but I was looking for the mathematical term).

But, we can agree then that a=dv/dt then?

Apparently, you have no idea what this sentence means. Which is just further evidence that you aren't qualified for discussing gravity.

Weight is not the same thing as the 'force of gravity'.  You can still have weight yet not be in a gravitational field.  There you go again, looking like an idiot.

So you agree that I am right, but still said you were 'surprised I didn't know this'?  Wow, that is pretty idiotic.  It would seem to me that you didn't know they were the same thing, until you looked it up at some later point in time.

That's what #1 means.

Lol.  I'm the only one that has been correct this entire time, but I'm the one that is not qualified to discuss 'gravity'?  Amazing logic.  If only you would stop playing these stupid games, I wouldn't be so harsh in my replies to you, making you look foolish.

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 27, 2016, 09:25:47 PM

Quote from: MouseWalker on January 27, 2016, 09:15:27 PM

Saying gravity does not exist, in your own words, is not proof.
Where is your proof that gravity does not exist?

Seeing as I can make it disappear by stepping off a ladder or jumping out of a plane pretty much shows that gravity is not real, but is a fictitious force.

Actually I miss this, make it disappear?, not happening, you will soon learn how real gravity is when you hit the ground.
Lets get back to the OP explain the Hawaiian island chain, what forces created it? Why is it a chain of islands?

And how was the challenger deep created?


And a subduction zone is going down not up.

You are wrong.

I didn't say you were wrong

Well, earlier you had a problem about objects accelerating and not accelerating,

No, you have been wrong on multiple occasions.

For example, you claimed that the force of gravity is not the same as weight, when they clearly are.

Actually I miss this, make it disappear?

Lets get back to the OP explain the Hawaiian island chain, what forces created it? Why is it a chain of islands?

And how was the challenger deep created?

Really?  What part?

So you agree that I am right.  Ok, good.

What problem was that?

Except you can have weight and not be in a gravitational field (celestially speaking of course, in case Discount Chemist is reading).

I think Plate Tectonics is just one of the many areas of Geology that present quite a challenge to flat earth theory. One of the many problems is that the energy that drives the plate system originates from the Earth's mantel which I take does not exist in a flat Earth model. Likewise the historical variation in the Earth magnetic field first recorded through the process know as magnetic stripping can be adequately explained by conventional means, though I have yet to hear a logical of believable explanation of how a stable magnetic field is produced in the flat earth model let alone one that is subject to rapid changes in polarity over time.
On general point I came to this site to see and to try and understand the basis of flat earth belief. What I have found is people who appear to repeat mantra like their unproven beliefs without offering a sherd of evidence. The Great Antarctic Ice Wall for example I am astounded by, given that I have flown over Antartica many times over the years as have countless numbers of others, yet no one has recorded such a huge geological structure which according to the WiKi is 15,000 ft high and many thousands of miles long. I have friends and former colleagues who have worked in Antarctic over many years on both British and multinational projects and none of them have ever seen or recorded features or atmospheric conditions this site appears to hold true. A son of a good friend is currently working  for the British Antarctic Survey and is as I type in the Haley IV research station working on Antarctic weather systems. This particular station has been operational for around 50 years and has accumulated a vast amount of data. None of the data collected corroborates any of your beliefs regarding Antartica.  If the temperature beyond the ice wall fell to near zero Kelvin the air itself would freeze and would have a catastrophic effect on the weather on their planet. There would be liquid oceans of Nitrogen which freezes around 77 Kelvin. The winds generated by such a low temperature mass would be evident.  I think such extraordinary features and weather systems would have been noticed. I myself have been to the dry McMurdo valley in western part of Mc Murdo Sound and no ice walls as described by the WiKI were visible either on the flight in or out. You offer no proof to this because you can't as these ice walls you are so fond of do not exist other than in your collective  imaginings. I challenge the FES to mount an expedition and go and collect evidence yo support your theories....its how science works.

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Actually I miss this, make it disappear?

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TheEngineer
Yes.  Disappear.

do you mean that you float or fly off?

Quote from: MouseWalker on January 31, 2016, 09:55:46 AM

Lets get back to the OP explain the Hawaiian island chain, what forces created it? Why is it a chain of islands?

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TheEngineer
Tectonic plate moves, allowing volcanoes to form and create islands.

what force moves the plates?

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And how was the challenger deep created?

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TheEngineer
By subduction.

what force creates the subduction?

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

Weight is not the same thing as the 'force of gravity'.  You can still have weight yet not be in a gravitational field.  There you go again, looking like an idiot.

You are wrong. This is something I learnt back in elementary school, are you really an engineer?

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

So you agree that I am right, but still said you were 'surprised I didn't know this'?  Wow, that is pretty idiotic.  It would seem to me that you didn't know they were the same thing, until you looked it up at some later point in time.

I didn't say you were wrong about your definitions of acceleration, idiot. I said I wanted a more pure definition. Still learning to read?

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

That's what #1 means.

Yes, I know, I already said that. I just wanted the pure form. Well, earlier you had a problem about objects accelerating and not accelerating, so I just wanted to make sure you had learnt it now.

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

Lol.  I'm the only one that has been correct this entire time, but I'm the one that is not qualified to discuss 'gravity'?  Amazing logic.  If only you would stop playing these stupid games, I wouldn't be so harsh in my replies to you, making you look foolish.

No, you have been wrong on multiple occasions. That statement in itself is therefore another error you just made. For example, you claimed that the force of gravity is not the same as weight, when they clearly are.

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 31, 2016, 10:35:01 PM

Really?  What part?

With your claim that weight and the force of gravity are not the same.

Just one about two objects affecting each other by gravity, and wether gravity causes acceleration or not. Since we can agree that a=dv/dt, and since the effect of gravity is that there is a change of velocity (dv) over time (dt), there is acceleration.

Nope. Can you explain how that would be possible, since both the force of gravity and weight is the product you get when you multiply a body's mass with the gravitational acceleration in the f=mg formula? Since weight = mg and the force of gravity = mg, then weight = the force of gravity.

The effect of 'gravity' is a change in velocity?  Really?  Here, I'll perform an experiment and you explain the results:

I start a tracking app on my phone that displays acceleration and velocity.  I step on a scale.  The scale registers a force so I check my app.  I note that my acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  My velocity at this instant is zero.  In one minute, my acceleration is still constant at 9.8m/s^2.  However, my velocity is still zero.  How is this possible if gravity causes a change in velocity over time?

Sure:  F = m*a.  You are welcome.

Actually weight is a function mass, the comparison of two masses, mass one to that of second mass, mass two the pressure between the two is measured in pounds or grams. We use a scale to make this measurement, the scale is put between The two masses and the measurement is made.

We have a number of cases that give weight.
Case one: A man is standing on earth, with a scale placed between the man and the earth will give the weight of the man on the earth,  the results of gravity.
A man is standing on the moon, the scale is place between man and the moon will give the weight of the man on the moon. the results of gravity.
Case two: A man standing in a spaceship accelerating at speed X the scale placed in the direction of movement the weight of the man is, a function of the acceleration of X.
Case three: A man sits on a scale in a centrifuge, the weight measured is a function of the speed of the centrifuge.
Case four: a man in a Space station in orbit around the earth still has his own mass, but as he is in freefall around the earth, he cannot be weighed, and is weightless, No place to put the scale.

Gravity causes you to accelerate in relation to the ground into the ground. However, the ground is resisting with a normal force. You are accelerating, but the force from the ground is causing a counter acceleration, so your net is 0. I can take it further and say that the ground is accelerating you in relation to your geodesic. If we take your geodesic at a specific time, as more time passes you will increase your velocity in relation to that geodesic. Hence, there is acceleration.

F =m*a does not prove that weight is not the same as the force of gravity.

An inertial observer at a point in time, yes.  Which is my acceleration definition #2.  Thank you for proving me correct again.

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Gravity is a phenomenon which causes acceleration.

No, gravity is a fictitious force that arises from the transformation of a non-inertial frame of reference into an inertial one.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it untrue.  I can still have weight when not in a gravitational field as is clearly shown by the formula provided.

And what does all this have to do with the seafloor spreading?

This discussion about gravity and/or UA derails in a lot of threads. Can you please make its own thread and discuss it there.

FEers like discussing gravity, UA and relativity because none of it is definitively provable and derails threads from what they are really about. So please make its own thread and discuss the topic/OP.

You are wrong?

Okay then, input g=0 into (W=weight) W=mg formula. Tell me when W =/= 0.

Quote from: Master_Evar on February 01, 2016, 11:15:17 PM

You are wrong?

Nope, sorry.  Gravitation is inertial motion.  Therefore no acceleration.

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Okay then, input g=0 into (W=weight) W=mg formula. Tell me when W =/= 0.

F=m*a.  If m>0, then any positive acceleration (relative) will cause a force.  You are welcome.  Again.

And what does all this have to do with the seafloor spreading?

This discussion about gravity and/or UA derails in a lot of threads. Can you please make its own thread and discuss it there.

FEers like discussing gravity, UA and relativity because none of it is definitively provable and derails threads from what they are really about. So please make its own thread and discuss the topic/OP.

Quote from: Master_Evar on January 31, 2016, 02:05:55 AM

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

Weight is not the same thing as the 'force of gravity'.  You can still have weight yet not be in a gravitational field.  There you go again, looking like an idiot.

You are wrong. This is something I learnt back in elementary school, are you really an engineer?

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

So you agree that I am right, but still said you were 'surprised I didn't know this'?  Wow, that is pretty idiotic.  It would seem to me that you didn't know they were the same thing, until you looked it up at some later point in time.

I didn't say you were wrong about your definitions of acceleration, idiot. I said I wanted a more pure definition. Still learning to read?

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

That's what #1 means.

Yes, I know, I already said that. I just wanted the pure form. Well, earlier you had a problem about objects accelerating and not accelerating, so I just wanted to make sure you had learnt it now.

Quote from: TheEngineer on January 30, 2016, 03:02:37 PM

Lol.  I'm the only one that has been correct this entire time, but I'm the one that is not qualified to discuss 'gravity'?  Amazing logic.  If only you would stop playing these stupid games, I wouldn't be so harsh in my replies to you, making you look foolish.

No, you have been wrong on multiple occasions. That statement in itself is therefore another error you just made. For example, you claimed that the force of gravity is not the same as weight, when they clearly are.

Actually weight is a function mass, the comparison of two masses, mass one to that of second mass, mass two the pressure between the two is measured in pounds or grams. We use a scale to make this measurement, the scale is put between The two masses and the measurement is made.

We have a number of cases that give weight.
Case one: A man is standing on earth, with a scale placed between the man and the earth will give the weight of the man on the earth,  the results of gravity.
A man is standing on the moon, the scale is place between man and the moon will give the weight of the man on the moon. the results of gravity.
Case two: A man standing in a spaceship accelerating at speed X the scale placed in the direction of movement the weight of the man is, a function of the acceleration of X.
Case three: A man sits on a scale in a centrifuge, the weight measured is a function of the speed of the centrifuge.
Case four: a man in a Space station in orbit around the earth still has his own mass, but as he is in freefall around the earth, he cannot be weighed, and is weightless, No place to put the scale.

Let's get back to OP's statement. The Atlantic ocean is getting larger. That is a fact. You can't deny it. In a globe earth, the earth that is pushed aside goes to form mountains and volcanoes because of its' shape where there are no edges. In a flat earth there is no explanation as to where the earth pushed aside would go? There is nowhere for the leftover mass to go. Would it turn into ice and join the ice wall? Would it get consumed by the flying spaghetti monsters?