What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?

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Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2016, 08:32:09 PM »
What is it about Special Relativity that gets you rounders foaming at the mouth?  Do you not agree with it?

Roundie, and love Special relativity. whats the problem with it?

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Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2016, 08:35:32 PM »
What is it about Special Relativity that gets you rounders foaming at the mouth?  Do you not agree with it?
Who's foaming at the mouth? I thought I was quite reasoned!
I simply said: "Jack has commented that Special Relativity could cause this!"  which is quite true!
He did not, however, give any justification in the form of some estimate that this is in any way correlated with the variation in "g" actually observed as altitude is changed.

Nor did he address the variation in "g" with latitude or the proximity to massive ore bodies!

You might have noted that much my quote was trying to show that UA provides a much better explanation of gravity on the FE than the post I was answering was claiming! But surely you don't expectexpect me to throw my full support behind the UA when to me there seem to be deficiencies even for FE let alone a Globe earth.

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Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2016, 08:39:54 PM »
I am just wondering why you people get so mad when others present real science to you. 

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Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2016, 08:47:39 PM »
I am just wondering why you people get so mad when others present real science to you.
Again, who is getting mad, I accepted what Jack had said, and then commented on what he didn't say.
If you think that's mad you ain't seen mad yet! Just kiddin'

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Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2016, 08:54:17 PM »
You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this. 

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Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2016, 09:20:16 PM »
    You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this.
    • Nobody is getting mad!
    • The only real science to do with the Flat Earth was the comment from Jack's post to me in another thread.  As I stated I did not dispute it, but did indicate that more detail would be appreciated.
    • And, no, none of us are seeing the world collapsing around us.
    • What I do see (not in this thread in particular) is numerous posts with childish so-called problems with the globe.  Most of these just indicate sheer ignorance on the part of the posters.  Silly posts like the earth rushing around, blowing everyone off or submarines popping out of the water when cruising "level" underwater, etc, etc!  I don't know how you feel, but
      personally I think that posts like that degrade the Flat Earth movement.
      and are really not that hard to counter.
    Mind you reasons I have stated a number of times I feel that the UA is one of your weakest links.  A number of Flat Earth supporters seem to be looking for alternatives.  Here I am thinking of two case (I will not name them simply to cover up my ignorance).  One tries to argue that atmospheric pressure causes what we see as gravity (weight) and the other has his "denspressure" ideas.  I am pointing these out here simply to indicate that not all Flat Earth supporters are happy with the UA.  Enough of this.

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    Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
    « Reply #36 on: January 17, 2016, 09:22:18 PM »
    This is just intended as a debate of just opinions.

    But this is just my opinion.:
    The flat earth definition of the horizon ranks number one on my list. ::)

    Universal Accelerator. One of the stupidest things ever said.

    Here is a question for flat earthers.:
    Take  typical bath room scales for weighing yourself.
    Does the UA make those scales jump up to meet your feet and give you your weight when you step on those scales.
    Are you trying to say that the UA would make a scale function any different than gravity would?
    The equivalence principle can be very hard to understand, I know. It's okay though, we can help you through it.


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    Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
    « Reply #37 on: January 17, 2016, 09:45:27 PM »
      You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this.
      • Nobody is getting mad!
      • The only real science to do with the Flat Earth was the comment from Jack's post to me in another thread.  As I stated I did not dispute it, but did indicate that more detail would be appreciated.
      • And, no, none of us are seeing the world collapsing around us.
      • What I do see (not in this thread in particular) is numerous posts with childish so-called problems with the globe.  Most of these just indicate sheer ignorance on the part of the posters.  Silly posts like the earth rushing around, blowing everyone off or submarines popping out of the water when cruising "level" underwater, etc, etc!  I don't know how you feel, but
        personally I think that posts like that degrade the Flat Earth movement.
        and are really not that hard to counter.
      Mind you reasons I have stated a number of times I feel that the UA is one of your weakest links.  A number of Flat Earth supporters seem to be looking for alternatives.  Here I am thinking of two case (I will not name them simply to cover up my ignorance).  One tries to argue that atmospheric pressure causes what we see as gravity (weight) and the other has his "denspressure" ideas.  I am pointing these out here simply to indicate that not all Flat Earth supporters are happy with the UA.  Enough of this.

      Calm down.  You are not very attractive when you are so upset.  [/list]

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      Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
      « Reply #38 on: January 18, 2016, 01:10:07 AM »
      Is this your new shtick, jroa?

      It's as shit as the old stuff.
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      Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
      « Reply #39 on: January 18, 2016, 01:29:21 AM »
      Is this your new shtick, jroa?

      It's as shit as the old stuff.

      Why are you so upset now?  I know science can be hard for some people to understand, but that is no reason for you people to go into tantrums. 

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      Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
      « Reply #40 on: January 18, 2016, 08:45:13 AM »
        You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this.
        • Nobody is getting mad!
        • The only real science to do with the Flat Earth was the comment from Jack's post to me in another thread.  As I stated I did not dispute it, but did indicate that more detail would be appreciated.
        • And, no, none of us are seeing the world collapsing around us.
        • What I do see (not in this thread in particular) is numerous posts with childish so-called problems with the globe.  Most of these just indicate sheer ignorance on the part of the posters.  Silly posts like the earth rushing around, blowing everyone off or submarines popping out of the water when cruising "level" underwater, etc, etc!  I don't know how you feel, but
          personally I think that posts like that degrade the Flat Earth movement.
          and are really not that hard to counter.
        Mind you reasons I have stated a number of times I feel that the UA is one of your weakest links.  A number of Flat Earth supporters seem to be looking for alternatives.  Here I am thinking of two case (I will not name them simply to cover up my ignorance).  One tries to argue that atmospheric pressure causes what we see as gravity (weight) and the other has his "denspressure" ideas.  I am pointing these out here simply to indicate that not all Flat Earth supporters are happy with the UA.  Enough of this.

        Calm down.  You are not very attractive when you are so upset.  [/list]

        What he wrote was very calm. Though if you keep saying that's he upset he probably won't be calm.
        The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

        Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.

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        « Reply #41 on: January 18, 2016, 10:43:21 AM »
        Emotion in text can be ambitious.

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        Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
        « Reply #42 on: January 18, 2016, 10:46:35 AM »
        Emotion in text can be ambitious.
        True, but in this case jroa is just trolling.

        Hey stop being mad, bro....hey why so upset.....don't cry.....etc etc

        It's just to annoy people and because he can't be bothered with an actual debate.
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        Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
        « Reply #43 on: January 18, 2016, 12:14:15 PM »
          You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this.
          • Nobody is getting mad!
          • The only real science to do with the Flat Earth was the comment from Jack's post to me in another thread.  As I stated I did not dispute it, but did indicate that more detail would be appreciated.
          • And, no, none of us are seeing the world collapsing around us.
          • What I do see (not in this thread in particular) is numerous posts with childish so-called problems with the globe.  Most of these just indicate sheer ignorance on the part of the posters.  Silly posts like the earth rushing around, blowing everyone off or submarines popping out of the water when cruising "level" underwater, etc, etc!  I don't know how you feel, but
            personally I think that posts like that degrade the Flat Earth movement.
            and are really not that hard to counter.
          Mind you reasons I have stated a number of times I feel that the UA is one of your weakest links.  A number of Flat Earth supporters seem to be looking for alternatives.  Here I am thinking of two case (I will not name them simply to cover up my ignorance).  One tries to argue that atmospheric pressure causes what we see as gravity (weight) and the other has his "denspressure" ideas.  I am pointing these out here simply to indicate that not all Flat Earth supporters are happy with the UA.  Enough of this.

          Calm down.  You are not very attractive when you are so upset.  [/list]

          What he wrote was very calm. Though if you keep saying that's he upset he probably won't be calm.

          Oh, great.  Another roundie is getting his panties in a wad.  Why are you people so mad? 

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          « Reply #44 on: January 18, 2016, 12:42:55 PM »
            You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this.
            • Nobody is getting mad!
            • The only real science to do with the Flat Earth was the comment from Jack's post to me in another thread.  As I stated I did not dispute it, but did indicate that more detail would be appreciated.
            • And, no, none of us are seeing the world collapsing around us.
            • What I do see (not in this thread in particular) is numerous posts with childish so-called problems with the globe.  Most of these just indicate sheer ignorance on the part of the posters.  Silly posts like the earth rushing around, blowing everyone off or submarines popping out of the water when cruising "level" underwater, etc, etc!  I don't know how you feel, but
              personally I think that posts like that degrade the Flat Earth movement.
              and are really not that hard to counter.
            Mind you reasons I have stated a number of times I feel that the UA is one of your weakest links.  A number of Flat Earth supporters seem to be looking for alternatives.  Here I am thinking of two case (I will not name them simply to cover up my ignorance).  One tries to argue that atmospheric pressure causes what we see as gravity (weight) and the other has his "denspressure" ideas.  I am pointing these out here simply to indicate that not all Flat Earth supporters are happy with the UA.  Enough of this.

            Calm down.  You are not very attractive when you are so upset.  [/list]

            What he wrote was very calm. Though if you keep saying that's he upset he probably won't be calm.

            Oh, great.  Another roundie is getting his panties in a wad.  Why are you people so mad?

            I was (and still am) very calm when I wrote it. I was saying you should stop saying everyone is uptight and deal with the issue at hand. If he speaking fallacies then call him out on those. Otherwise you are name calling without cause.
            The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

            Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.

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            Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
            « Reply #45 on: January 19, 2016, 04:28:20 AM »
              You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this.
              • Nobody is getting mad!
              • The only real science to do with the Flat Earth was the comment from Jack's post to me in another thread.  As I stated I did not dispute it, but did indicate that more detail would be appreciated.
              • And, no, none of us are seeing the world collapsing around us.
              • What I do see (not in this thread in particular) is numerous posts with childish so-called problems with the globe.  Most of these just indicate sheer ignorance on the part of the posters.  Silly posts like the earth rushing around, blowing everyone off or submarines popping out of the water when cruising "level" underwater, etc, etc!  I don't know how you feel, but
                personally I think that posts like that degrade the Flat Earth movement.
                and are really not that hard to counter.
              Mind you reasons I have stated a number of times I feel that the UA is one of your weakest links.  A number of Flat Earth supporters seem to be looking for alternatives.  Here I am thinking of two case (I will not name them simply to cover up my ignorance).  One tries to argue that atmospheric pressure causes what we see as gravity (weight) and the other has his "denspressure" ideas.  I am pointing these out here simply to indicate that not all Flat Earth supporters are happy with the UA.  Enough of this.

              Calm down.  You are not very attractive when you are so upset.  [/list]

              What he wrote was very calm. Though if you keep saying that's he upset he probably won't be calm.

              Oh, great.  Another roundie is getting his panties in a wad.  Why are you people so mad?

              I was (and still am) very calm when I wrote it. I was saying you should stop saying everyone is uptight and deal with the issue at hand. If he speaking fallacies then call him out on those. Otherwise you are name calling without cause.

              Maybe you should have a drink or something to calm your nerves?  Have you been checked for rabies in the resent past? 

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              Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
              « Reply #46 on: January 19, 2016, 04:36:25 AM »

              True, but in this case jroa is just trolling.

              Hey stop being mad, bro....hey why so upset.....don't cry.....etc etc

              It's just to annoy people and because he can't be bothered with an actual debate.
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              Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
              « Reply #47 on: January 19, 2016, 08:25:26 AM »
                You people are free to get as mad as you want at real science.  I know it hurts to have your world collapse around you like this.
                • Nobody is getting mad!
                • The only real science to do with the Flat Earth was the comment from Jack's post to me in another thread.  As I stated I did not dispute it, but did indicate that more detail would be appreciated.
                • And, no, none of us are seeing the world collapsing around us.
                • What I do see (not in this thread in particular) is numerous posts with childish so-called problems with the globe.  Most of these just indicate sheer ignorance on the part of the posters.  Silly posts like the earth rushing around, blowing everyone off or submarines popping out of the water when cruising "level" underwater, etc, etc!  I don't know how you feel, but
                  personally I think that posts like that degrade the Flat Earth movement.
                  and are really not that hard to counter.
                Mind you reasons I have stated a number of times I feel that the UA is one of your weakest links.  A number of Flat Earth supporters seem to be looking for alternatives.  Here I am thinking of two case (I will not name them simply to cover up my ignorance).  One tries to argue that atmospheric pressure causes what we see as gravity (weight) and the other has his "denspressure" ideas.  I am pointing these out here simply to indicate that not all Flat Earth supporters are happy with the UA.  Enough of this.

                Calm down.  You are not very attractive when you are so upset.  [/list]

                What he wrote was very calm. Though if you keep saying that's he upset he probably won't be calm.

                Oh, great.  Another roundie is getting his panties in a wad.  Why are you people so mad?

                I was (and still am) very calm when I wrote it. I was saying you should stop saying everyone is uptight and deal with the issue at hand. If he speaking fallacies then call him out on those. Otherwise you are name calling without cause.

                Maybe you should have a drink or something to calm your nerves?  Have you been checked for rabies in the resent past?

                What makes you think I'm upset?
                The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

                Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.

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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #48 on: January 19, 2016, 08:35:45 AM »
                Don't feed the troll.

                Another falacy:

                Look out your window.

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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #49 on: January 20, 2016, 05:50:42 PM »
                Don't feed the troll.
                Another falacy:
                Look out your window.
                First of all I tried to convince him I was not upset, then Jroa accuses Luke of being mad.  Pretty effective derailing tactics!
                I suppose you have noted Jroa's "rank" as Custodial Engineer, a polite name for a garbage collector - not too far from his own words!
                You can work it out from there.
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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #50 on: January 20, 2016, 06:58:53 PM »
                Don't feed the troll.
                Another falacy:
                Look out your window.
                First of all I tried to convince him I was not upset, then Jroa accuses Luke of being mad.  Pretty effective derailing tactics!
                I suppose you have noted Jroa's "rank" as Custodial Engineer, a polite name for a garbage collector - not too far from his own words!
                You can work it out from there.

                Wow, you are really upset now.  You are even going after trash collectors.  Is there anyone else you want to put down while you are at it? 

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                « Reply #51 on: January 21, 2016, 11:17:59 AM »

                True, but in this case jroa is just trolling.

                Hey stop being mad, bro....hey why so upset.....don't cry.....etc etc

                It's just to annoy people and because he can't be bothered with an actual debate.
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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #52 on: January 22, 2016, 06:23:41 PM »
                In my opinion one of the greatest flat earth fallacies must be the reliance on the Universal Accelerator to explain gravity.
                Sorry it's so long

                I have tried to get reasonable answers for some queries I have on this, but the only sensible answer I have has been from Jack, [nb]he indicating that the variation with altitude might be due to relativistic effects, but has made no attempt to justify this by correlating the change in apparent acceleration with measured values.[/nb].  Other than that answers have been trivial and simply making no attempt to address the real issues.

                So I will try again.

                From what I have read Einstein's "Equivalence Theory" can only be applied over a region of space and time where "g" is constant.  Here "g" is taken to be the net acceleration we feel as a result of gravity and other effects.

                This is clearly not true for the whole surface area of the earth:
                • We find that at sea level "g" varies from about 9.780 m/s2 at the Equator to to about 9.832 m/s2 at the poles - only a change of about 0.5%, but quite measurable.
                • Also an increase in altitude from sea level to 9,000 metres (30,000 ft) causes a weight decrease of about 0.29%, neglecting any change in buoyancy of the less dense atmosphere. (Admittedly from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth#Latitude, but the I don't believe the figures are much disputed).
                • Changes in "g" are also detected in the proximinity of massive ore bodies - used in mineral exploration.
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                  The gravity field is reassuringly simple, unipolar and almost perfectly vertical. The common unit of gravity measurement in exploration geophysics is milliGal (1,000 mGal = 1 Gal = 1 cm/s2 = 0.01 m/s2). These units refer to acceleration due to gravity, and the average value at the earth surface is around 980,000 mGal or 9.8 m/s2. By comparison, anomalies in mineral and oil exploration seldom exceed a few hundred milliGals.
                So if the UA theory is going to rely on the "Equivalence Theory" for justification, some rational explanation for these variations must be provided. 
                And, please don't come up with the "gravitational effects of the sun moon and other celestial bodies" for obvious reasons!
                I have answers such as:
                "Have you never heard of variations in readings of test equipment""Are you tolling, or are you really this dumb?"

                No I am NOT trolling and I don't believe that I am that dumb.

                If the explanations were that trivial then:
                • Why are the readings quite consistent?
                • Why would exploration companies spend millions on gravimetric surveys with instrument showing sufficient "variations in readings of test equipment" to render that readings unreliable?

                 My whole point has been that, UA should never have been applied to a region where the gravitational field is not constant, unless there is sound reasoning explaining these anomalies.

                I can understand Rowbotham using UA, when so much less was known about the subject.  Though even in his time, Robert Hooke and Isaac Newton had shown experimentally that "g" did vary with latitude.  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum for more detail and costing a lot more money in "The Pendulum: Scientific, Historical, Philosophical and Educational Perspectives" edited by Michael R. Matthews, Colin F. Gauld, Arthur Stinner.

                But the modern Flat Earth Society with so much more data available soes not have Rowbotham's excuse.

                If there are no sensible responses (other than from Skeptimatic or JRoweSkeptic, who I doubt go with UA anyway) I must assume that Universal Acceleration should NEVER have been applied, and the Flat Earth should find another explanation for "gravity".
                « Last Edit: January 28, 2016, 04:14:02 AM by rabinoz »

                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #53 on: January 24, 2016, 08:47:18 PM »
                I am new to this forum, and frankly this is the first time I have actually heard about people who truly believe that the earth is flat.

                I am not making fun of anyone in their beliefs, as something struck a truth to them.

                But I can tell you all that I have lived in different lat and long lines around the planet, from norther and southern United States, to Iceland, as well as being a Navy Veteran who sailed the ocean on a big a$$ boat.

                And in all my travels, flat earth didn't fit the narrative. I love the planet we're on, and I know there is still so much more that I haven't even seen yet - so, again, I am not making judgments against a FE perspective, because there may be something there that I should know. (y)

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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #54 on: January 24, 2016, 09:16:28 PM »
                I am new to this forum, and frankly this is the first time I have actually heard about people who truly believe that the earth is flat.
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                And in all my travels, flat earth didn't fit the narrative. I love the planet we're on, and I know there is still so much more that I haven't even seen yet - so, again, I am not making judgments against a FE perspective, because there may be something there that I should know. (y)[/color][/size][/font]

                Big welcome, but you seem to have hit a thread that gets ignored by those who go with the idea of a Flat Earth.  Maybe I scare them away with my long winded posts. Hazard of being an ex-lecturer,  I guess!

                I live in the southern hemisphere and we seem to get a raw deal.  It's a bit hard to convince FE supporters that everyone in the southern hemisphere can see the Southern Cross (not all the time of course).
                Also our countries are all distorted in size and shape on any map they come up with!

                Guess you'll find all this out.

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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #55 on: January 25, 2016, 08:43:20 AM »
                I am new to this forum, and frankly this is the first time I have actually heard about people who truly believe that the earth is flat.

                I am not making fun of anyone in their beliefs, as something struck a truth to them.

                But I can tell you all that I have lived in different lat and long lines around the planet, from norther and southern United States, to Iceland, as well as being a Navy Veteran who sailed the ocean on a big a$$ boat.

                And in all my travels, flat earth didn't fit the narrative. I love the planet we're on, and I know there is still so much more that I haven't even seen yet - so, again, I am not making judgments against a FE perspective, because there may be something there that I should know. (y)


                Welcome to the trenches.
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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #56 on: January 25, 2016, 08:45:48 AM »
                I am new to this forum, and frankly this is the first time I have actually heard about people who truly believe that the earth is flat.
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                And in all my travels, flat earth didn't fit the narrative. I love the planet we're on, and I know there is still so much more that I haven't even seen yet - so, again, I am not making judgments against a FE perspective, because there may be something there that I should know. (y)[/color][/size][/font]

                Big welcome, but you seem to have hit a thread that gets ignored by those who go with the idea of a Flat Earth.  Maybe I scare them away with my long winded posts. Hazard of being an ex-lecturer,  I guess!

                I live in the southern hemisphere and we seem to get a raw deal.  It's a bit hard to convince FE supporters that everyone in the southern hemisphere can see the Southern Cross (not all the time of course).
                Also our countries are all distorted in size and shape on any map they come up with!

                Guess you'll find all this out.
                Ya, the Flat Earth Fantasy is not friendly to people south of the equator. Nothing works.
                (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65369.0)
                If they tried to pull this kind of BS with people north of the equator, it would die a quick death.
                “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.” W.C. Fields.
                "The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
                "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

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                rabinoz

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                Re: What is the greatest flat earth fallacy ?
                « Reply #57 on: January 26, 2016, 09:00:54 PM »
                I seem to have a knack of getting posts ignored. Funny that the ones that ignored seem to poke big holes in the Flat Earth theory.

                I have tried to show that UA is not an acceptable substitute for gravity on the Earth's surface. See the post http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65228.msg1751651#msg1751651 for more details.

                Then I showed that the known dimensions of the real earth (equatorial circumference and equator to north pole distance) simply do not fit on a plane surface. One such post was http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65417.msg1752365#msg1752365.

                If I did not present these well, someone else might improve on them,
                But I consider that these points mean that unless they are refuted the earth cannot by flat!

                Mind you there are plenty of other weaknesses in the Flat Earth model.